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It's fall, cue the "skis mounted wrong" threads.

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Caucasian_Asian
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Ok.
Getting skis mounted in a shop is a really simple thing, but if you don’t do it correctly, it can be a headache.

-Take your boots in with your skis. This ensures that they get the forward pressure set properly.
-Write down your instructions. Especially if somebody else(like your mommy) is dropping them off for you. Ski shops are busy, techs forget instructions sometimes.
-Mark where you want your skis mounted. Put a big piece of masking tape on your skis and draw a line on it that says "boot centerline".
-Make sure that when you drop off your gear that all the screws and brakes are accounted for.
-If you have any special requests (DIN, etc), WRITE THEM DOWN on the work order and sign beside them.
-Don't bitch about paying $30 for the work. Ski shops are a business, and their time is worth money. And don't get your stuff mounted at a big box store. Support your ski community. That includes REI.

For the last 15 years, I've followed that advice, and never had an issue.
Oct 13 2014 8:07AM
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Gmart
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Hahahaha, this is so simple yet often forgotten. +k for making my life easier, and I'm just the guy writing up the paper work to have it mounted lol!
Oct 13 2014 8:50AM
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[nick]
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Amen brother, people spend hundreds on new gear only to trust others not to screw it up. It's simple, take away any chance they have to do so.
Oct 13 2014 8:58AM
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SFBv420.0
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every shop i ever teched at or been in operates on the we assume you want to ride your skis on the entire mountain on the factory recommended freeride line.
now if your browneye firster spinny jibber dfc freestyler or don't want your skis mounted
the way weve been mounting them for decades.
mark where you want your skis mounted or learn to dyi.
Oct 13 2014 9:13AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Oh, and "center mounted" could mean several different things. Figure out which one you want before you go in.
Oct 13 2014 10:56AM
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Bagels
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Or just mount your own skis. Shops typically hold onto jigs way to long and the jigs aren't necessarily very straight, plus some kid making $10/hr is mounting them half the time. Take the $60/mount, buy a 6-pack of beer and watch these videos/links. Mounting skis is the equivalent to changing your windshield wiper blades on your truck! Cheers.

Ski Mount Video P1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ-Cp1Wrb_c

Ski Mount Video P2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogPc200rrxw

Every Binding Paper Template there is to use.
*Make sure you print the template off correctly and your printer didn't resize to fit to the page!
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/153971-Binding-Mount-Paper-Templates

Page 3 of this thread has a step-by-step process to review.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/232898-PSA-Mount-your-own-fucking-skis/page3?highlight=mount+rossignol+fks

And while you're at it, wax and tune yer skis!
https://vimeo.com/32350076#

If you're uncomfortable, try mounting on a piece of wood (2x4) for practice.
Oct 13 2014 12:53PM
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tri_photo
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Caucasian_AsianOh, and "center mounted" could mean several different things. Figure out which one you want before you go in.


This. It is so true. Be extra clear and ask as many questions as you need. I am sure I have annoyed shops with my questions, but hey, i got my skis mounted right lol
Oct 13 2014 1:05PM
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rollie
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if you need skis mounted asap or overnight, bring a nice sixer in for the guys at the shop and they'll express lane ya. Its always worked for me.
Oct 13 2014 1:22PM
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GrumpisPringle
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different center mounts? not to sound like a dickhead but doesn't the ski have one center?
Oct 13 2014 6:10PM
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Static
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GrumpisPringledifferent center mounts? not to sound like a dickhead but doesn't the ski have one center?


nope, there's the contact center, the tip to tail center, the sidecut center. On a truly symmetrical ski with equal tip and tail heights it's all the same but few skis are built to those specs.
Oct 13 2014 6:35PM
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Bum.Life
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This should be sticky'd
Oct 14 2014 1:50AM
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Mrworm10
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Caucasian_Asian-Don't bitch about paying $30 for the work. Ski shops are a business, and their time is worth money.


Can I bitch now that mounting at my local shop is $75? I would have no problem paying 30 bucks, even more, but 75? That's just steep.
Oct 14 2014 8:45AM
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Thewhiteroom
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Normally if you buy one of the skis, boots, or bindings from the shop they will mount them for you for half the price. But since there are to many kids out there that need to buy everything online and not support your local shop then the shop needs to make its money some how to stay open, so they charge way more for mounts. But there isn't nothing a 6pack of beer cant fix.
Oct 14 2014 9:01AM
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Gmart
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ThewhiteroomNormally if you buy one of the skis, boots, or bindings from the shop they will mount them for you for half the price. But since there are to many kids out there that need to buy everything online and not support your local shop then the shop needs to make its money some how to stay open, so they charge way more for mounts. But there isn't nothing a 6pack of beer cant fix.


Exactly. If you buy a binding from most shops a mount is included, boot, half off, ski, possibly half off. If you get everything online shops look to hit you over the head and encourage you to buy their stuff by saying, the 100 bucks you saved online I'm now gonna charge you for a mount thus making your savings virtually not that much. Kinda dick, but it is what it is, it's a small industry in the grand scheme of things so you gotta do what you gotta do to keep the doors open.

p.s mismounting my ski is like my biggest fear lol, I will never use a paper jig out of fear of messing up by even the slightest bit. Not when the metal guided one exists
Oct 14 2014 9:22AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Mrworm10Can I bitch now that mounting at my local shop is $75? I would have no problem paying 30 bucks, even more, but 75? That's just steep.


If you don't like the service they are providing you with, do it yourself.
Oct 14 2014 10:03AM
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onenerdykid
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GmartIf you get everything online shops look to hit you over the head and encourage you to buy their stuff by saying, the 100 bucks you saved online I'm now gonna charge you for a mount thus making your savings virtually not that much. Kinda dick, but it is what it is, it's a small industry in the grand scheme of things so you gotta do what you gotta do to keep the doors open


I see it more of a "it's a technical process and you are paying to have a trained expert do it properly". And as such no one should expect a free mount if you did not buy your gear from said shop. People wouldn't expect a car mechanic to install car parts they bought online for free, so why should they expect a shop to install & test their bindings they bought online for free?

Mounting and testing bindings requires special training, lots of experience, expensive tools, and insurance costs. Such things shouldn't be taken for granted and expected to be given away lightly. When viewed in this light, it's not simply about teaching the internet consumer a lesson but simply recouping costs on time, training, and tools and a scary word called "profit".
Oct 14 2014 10:06AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Plan ahead.

If you're going to a shop you're not familiar with, go and talk to the techs. See if they're familiar with center mounted skis or free-hand mounts.

Don't expect to jump to the front of the line or get free work just because you bring in a few beers. I've been in plenty of shops that had full beer fridges, and another 6 isn't worth bumping their regular clients.
Oct 17 2014 12:45PM
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onenerdykid
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Caucasian_AsianPlan ahead.

If you're going to a shop you're not familiar with, go and talk to the techs. See if they're familiar with center mounted skis or free-hand mounts.

Don't expect to jump to the front of the line or get free work just because you bring in a few beers. I've been in plenty of shops that had full beer fridges, and another 6 isn't worth bumping their regular clients.


This. Really this. But... even when techs have a fridge full of beers, it's a good idea to bring something else, a bag of donuts or cookies. Especially if you drop them off in the morning. Beer doesn't normally work well then, and no shop tech can resist donuts and/or cookies.
Oct 17 2014 2:14PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Bump.
Dec 13 2014 12:16PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Bum.LifeThis should be sticky'd


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Jul 8 2015 4:00PM
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shin-bang
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Caucasian_Asian.


good bump. i actually do most if not all of the steps you listed already. and i usually write like 4 notes and tape them to the ski cus retards at the counter like to take them off and the shop tecs are mental. my friends have horror stories but since ive taken that extra 5 min to write a note i havent had any too big of mess ups

AND

if the mods were smart they would sticky this
Jul 8 2015 4:10PM
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sammy_JJ
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bump
Jul 22 2015 11:21PM
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50Kal
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shin-bangif the mods were smart they would sticky this


If only they were.
Jul 22 2015 11:30PM
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samuel_ski
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If I want skis center mounted should I measure from tip to tail, and also when is the time to get skis mounted?
Jul 23 2015 3:34PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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SamuelSki11If I want skis center mounted should I measure from tip to tail, and also when is the time to get skis mounted?


Figure out when you need your skis done by. Then call the shop and ask them "Hey, when should I bring in my skis if I want them mounted by XXXXX?"
Jul 23 2015 3:58PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Bump for snow in the mountains.
Sep 4 2015 11:05AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Bump.
Oct 13 2015 9:47AM
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SteezOnSkis12
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Mrworm10Can I bitch now that mounting at my local shop is $75? I would have no problem paying 30 bucks, even more, but 75? That's just steep.


What shop do you go to?
Oct 14 2015 12:56PM
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gnar_whal
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SteezOnSkis12What shop do you go to?


You do realize that this thread is over a year old..
Oct 14 2015 10:32PM
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SteezOnSkis12
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gnar_whalYou do realize that this thread is over a year old..


o.
Oct 15 2015 8:15AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Caucasian_AsianOk.
Getting skis mounted in a shop is a really simple thing, but if you don’t do it correctly, it can be a headache.

-Take your boots in with your skis. This ensures that they get the forward pressure set properly.
-Write down your instructions. Especially if somebody else(like your mommy) is dropping them off for you. Ski shops are busy, techs forget instructions sometimes.
-Mark where you want your skis mounted. Put a big piece of masking tape on your skis and draw a line on it that says "boot centerline".
-Make sure that when you drop off your gear that all the screws and brakes are accounted for.
-If you have any special requests (DIN, etc), WRITE THEM DOWN on the work order and sign beside them.
-Don't bitch about paying $30 for the work. Ski shops are a business, and their time is worth money. And don't get your stuff mounted at a big box store. Support your ski community. That includes REI.

For the last 15 years, I've followed that advice, and never had an issue.


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Oct 15 2015 10:51AM
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gabew34
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SteezOnSkis12What shop do you go to?


my brother (Mrworm10) and i went to philbricks sports in dover, NH. that was last year, this year I got skis mounted at putnams in portsmouth, NH, much better service and i bought fks for $200 with free mount.
Oct 15 2015 12:00PM
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YoungGun.
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I wanted my DINs high and the tech got pretty uneasy.

"What level skier are you, do you ski black diamonds?"

"Yeah, Expert"

"Ok" (Circles intermediate)

Maybe a liability thing?
Oct 15 2015 12:12PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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YoungGun.I wanted my DINs high and the tech got pretty uneasy.

"What level skier are you, do you ski black diamonds?"

"Yeah, Expert"

"Ok" (Circles intermediate)

Maybe a liability thing?


Exactly what it is. He was completely right to feel uneasy. If you brought your stuff into me and said that you wanted your DIN set "high", I would do the same thing.
Oct 15 2015 1:02PM
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B.Smuda
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+K to the OP. I've worked with my techs at all three of our shops (Colorado Ski Shop) since 2007. Make sure you've got it all together before leaving the store. OP nailed it.

-Brian
Oct 16 2015 2:59PM
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ABskier
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Caucasian_AsianExactly what it is. He was completely right to feel uneasy. If you brought your stuff into me and said that you wanted your DIN set "high", I would do the same thing.


if the skier says they are a type III skier, then you should not circle type II like the tech apparently did. It's the skiers decision. Although if a kid came in and asked for their din to be set "high", that's a bit ambiguous.
Oct 16 2015 6:03PM
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shin-bang
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YoungGun.I wanted my DINs high and the tech got pretty uneasy.

"What level skier are you, do you ski black diamonds?"

"Yeah, Expert"

"Ok" (Circles intermediate)

Maybe a liability thing?


-says to ski tech "broo I want my dins as high as I ammmm."

*rolls another scoobie doobie
Oct 17 2015 2:37AM
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Swandog7
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shin-bang-says to ski tech "broo I want my dins as high as I ammmm."

*rolls another scoobie doobie


Well my din would be at .1. Rolling a scoobie as in the Scooby-Doo fruit snacks cuz those are the shit
Oct 17 2015 5:49PM
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YoungGun.
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shin-bang-says to ski tech "broo I want my dins as high as I ammmm."

*rolls another scoobie doobie


I don't wanna pop out of my bindings as much as I pop mollies.
Oct 18 2015 3:10PM
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Mr.Penguin
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It's crazy that people get their skis mounted wrong, or have shops that don't understand center mounting. I guess those of us in Salt Lake are fortunate to have several proper ski shops to choose from.
Oct 18 2015 6:21PM
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50Kal
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YoungGun.I wanted my DINs high and the tech got pretty uneasy.

"What level skier are you, do you ski black diamonds?"

"Yeah, Expert"

"Ok" (Circles intermediate)

Maybe a liability thing?


Skiing Black diamonds doesn't make you a expert. You got to ski them Double Black diamonds. Thats when you need your FKS set to 18.
Oct 18 2015 8:23PM
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robert.clarkeiii
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Just drop my skis off at my local shop. Put a line exactly where i want my binding and specifically asked them to be true centered not off the manufactures markings. And I'm still nervous they're going to mess up
Oct 18 2015 8:38PM
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YoungGun.
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50KalSkiing Black diamonds doesn't make you a expert. You got to ski them Double Black diamonds. Thats when you need your FKS set to 18.


I can ski Midwest double blacks switch with a dildo in my ass. He wasn't talking about real black diamonds.
Oct 18 2015 8:51PM
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50Kal
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YoungGun.I can ski Midwest double blacks switch with a dildo in my ass. He wasn't talking about real black diamonds.


You ski switch with a Dildo up your ass? Well, whatever floats your boat man.
Oct 18 2015 11:23PM
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KravtZ
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Mr.PenguinIt's crazy that people get their skis mounted wrong, or have shops that don't understand center mounting. I guess those of us in Salt Lake are fortunate to have several proper ski shops to choose from.


Mounted up some skis this weekend...talked to the shop tech for 15 minutes about what we thought was the best mounting position. Got him a 12 pack of beers....worked out great.
Oct 19 2015 10:31AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Caucasian_AsianOk.
Getting skis mounted in a shop is a really simple thing, but if you don’t do it correctly, it can be a headache.

-Take your boots in with your skis. This ensures that they get the forward pressure set properly.
-Write down your instructions. Especially if somebody else(like your mommy) is dropping them off for you. Ski shops are busy, techs forget instructions sometimes.
-Mark where you want your skis mounted. Put a big piece of masking tape on your skis and draw a line on it that says "boot centerline".
-Make sure that when you drop off your gear that all the screws and brakes are accounted for.
-If you have any special requests (DIN, etc), WRITE THEM DOWN on the work order and sign beside them.
-Don't bitch about paying $30 for the work. Ski shops are a business, and their time is worth money. And don't get your stuff mounted at a big box store. Support your ski community. That includes REI.

For the last 15 years, I've followed that advice, and never had an issue.


This needs to be reviewed. Again.
Nov 14 2015 7:40PM
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steezburgereddie
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last year the shop tightened the screws in the baseplate too tight and caused it to crack. the heelpeice fell of my second day of the season
Nov 14 2015 9:31PM
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The.Fish
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steezburgereddielast year the shop tightened the screws in the baseplate too tight and caused it to crack. the heelpeice fell of my second day of the season


My shop didn't screw it in enough. Still hasnt popped out yet, but I won't be surprised if it does.
Nov 15 2015 4:27PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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cjt121099My shop didn't screw it in enough. Still hasnt popped out yet, but I won't be surprised if it does.


Then why are you still skiing on it? Do you want it to break?
Do you keep driving on a tire that's low, or do you stop and fill it up?
Nov 15 2015 6:25PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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The referenced post has been removed.

Then take them back and have a chat with the owner! If his shop made a mistake, he needs to know.
Nov 15 2015 7:18PM
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