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jfxphoto
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So I just bought an iPhone 6 and holy shit dat camera doe. 240fps?!

I'm thinking of ditching the dslr this year and just filming with my phone..

Obviously stabilization is a big prob, anyone know of a stedicam light enough for a phone lol?

Audio would also be an issue.. I wonder if they make iPhone mike attachments


Yeah it's going to look gaper as fuck but I'm actually kinda stoked to try it out.

Ns what's you're thoughts on this?
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Sep 21 2014 5:42PM
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dan_swagner
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The problems I see with using an iphone for a main camera are:
Media management - unless you have one of the larger size phones or transfer the files off the phone while you're shoot ing you might not have enough space to film for a long shoot.

Protecting the phone from the snow and getting knocked around.

getting a phone call in the middle of a perfect shot.

battery life, if you are doing a lot of long shots the battery might not hold up all day.

It could work great for grabbing quick shots here and there when you dont have another camera, but I would still have something to use for a main camera.
Sep 21 2014 5:53PM
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Jpurd
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I can't tell if your serious or hating on apple
Sep 21 2014 9:19PM
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NewEscuelers
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Media management - unless you have one of the larger size phones or transfer the files off the phone while you're shoot ing you might not have enough space to film for a long shoot.

Protecting the phone from the snow and getting knocked around.
Life Proof cases actually work really well provided you dont run it over

getting a phone call in the middle of a perfect shot.
Put it in airplane mode while shooting.

battery life, if you are doing a lot of long shots the battery might not hold up all day.
Bring the charger with you and charge it at lunch
Sep 21 2014 9:29PM
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Japaneezy
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You are kidding right? Unless your dslr is a potato, I wouldn't even consider replacing a phone with my camera gear.
Sep 21 2014 10:01PM
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Vinnie_B
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It would be interesting to see what you could come up with, but definitely don't use it as a substitute for any video camera.
Sep 21 2014 10:20PM
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eheath
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lol you cant be serious
Sep 22 2014 12:19AM
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C.DeJohn
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Make sure you film it all vertical looks way better...
Sep 22 2014 12:21AM
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BungHole.
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Your stuck with the setting apple gives you. You cant change exposure, aperture and all that fancy shiz. No changing lenses no (high quality) fish eyes. The list goes on.
Sep 22 2014 12:56AM
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LastChairMedia
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pussyfooterlol you cant be serious


Seriously... I cant imagine what I would do if I saw you doing this....
Sep 22 2014 10:46AM
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Willskiforfree
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LastChairMediaSeriously... I cant imagine what I would do if I saw you doing this....


I don't really get the big deal with it, if it records just as well or even better than a camera he has why wouldn't he use it? Of course there are a lot of things that will get in the way for a bigger project. I have recorded short edits with my iPhone and I think they look great.
Sep 22 2014 11:14AM
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PacificRimJob
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Obvious jokes is obvious.
Sep 22 2014 11:29AM
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John18_6
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WillskiforfreeI don't really get the big deal with it, if it records just as well or even better than a camera he has why wouldn't he use it?


Good luck shooting in low light lol
Sep 22 2014 11:51AM
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eheath
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WillskiforfreeI don't really get the big deal with it, if it records just as well or even better than a camera he has why wouldn't he use it?


But it doesn't.
Sep 22 2014 12:12PM
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CheddarJack
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I mean if you aren't looking to make a seriously produced edit, then why not? But if you're going to invest in anything else for it then you're wasting your money.

If I had a phone capable of 240fps I'd at least use it for some Instagram edits or maybe a shot or two in a real edit but by no means would I ditch my dslr for it.
Sep 22 2014 12:16PM
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jfxphoto
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pussyfooterlol you cant be serious



Instead of just saying that could ya give me some info as to why you think it's such a dumb idea?





Too the above.. I have the 64gb iPhone so if I keep up with my media management I should have a good amount of space


I plan on getting the life proof water proof case when it comes out

I won't be shooting in low light obviously

Now with ios 8 you're able to change your camera settings instead of it just being auto


The problem I still see coming up is audio, but I've seen some mic attachments that might work, and battery

I didn't mean I would completely ditch the dslr I'll obviously use it for more technical shots but the convenience of using my phone just sounds so nice


Some of these posts are fucking hilarious ^^^^
Sep 22 2014 1:25PM
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PacificRimJob
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_RonSwanson_Instead of just saying that could ya give me some info as to why you think it's such a dumb idea?





Too the above.. I have the 64gb iPhone so if I keep up with my media management I should have a good amount of space


I plan on getting the life proof water proof case when it comes out

I won't be shooting in low light obviously

Now with ios 8 you're able to change your camera settings instead of it just being auto


The problem I still see coming up is audio, but I've seen some mic attachments that might work, and battery

I didn't mean I would completely ditch the dslr I'll obviously use it for more technical shots but the convenience of using my phone just sounds so nice


Some of these posts are fucking hilarious ^^^^


even with 64gb, you're not going to be able to have very long edits. You'll fill that quick as hell if you're shooting at 240fps - unless the codec is super compressed and shitty, which is probably is.

changing camera settings still won't allow you to set the focus or give you a wider lens - of which the iphone lens is not particularly wide - so unstabilized, it's going to be even shakier

You'll have better luck using a GoPro for sure...
Sep 22 2014 1:35PM
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nutz.
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_RonSwanson_Instead of just saying that could ya give me some info as to why you think it's such a dumb idea?





Too the above.. I have the 64gb iPhone so if I keep up with my media management I should have a good amount of space


I plan on getting the life proof water proof case when it comes out

I won't be shooting in low light obviously

Now with ios 8 you're able to change your camera settings instead of it just being auto


The problem I still see coming up is audio, but I've seen some mic attachments that might work, and battery

I didn't mean I would completely ditch the dslr I'll obviously use it for more technical shots but the convenience of using my phone just sounds so nice


Some of these posts are fucking hilarious ^^^^


I mean... if THC does it and gets a good reception, you should do you as well. The best camera there is is the one you've got with you after all
Sep 22 2014 1:37PM
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PacificRimJob
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nutz.I mean... if THC does it and gets a good reception, you should do you as well. The best camera there is is the one you've got with you after all


Bullshit, the best camera is the RED camera, duh, you gotta have like 50 grand to be a real filmmaker and if you don't then you suck and need to give up.

...but honestly, I don't know how I'd feel about using the iphone as a legitimate tool for filming serious things.
Sep 22 2014 1:46PM
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Noddard
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If you are actually serious... Check out the iglide by glidecam for stablizing your phone and I'd try out some lense attachments. On the contrary I'd strongly consider using your dslr over the iPhone.
Sep 22 2014 1:54PM
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jfxphoto
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DingoSeanYou'll have better luck using a GoPro for sure...



For sure, I think I'll end up just using it for still shots that I want slow way the fuck down.
Sep 22 2014 5:07PM
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McLS
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_RonSwanson_Instead of just saying that could ya give me some info as to why you think it's such a dumb idea?





Too the above.. I have the 64gb iPhone so if I keep up with my media management I should have a good amount of space


I plan on getting the life proof water proof case when it comes out

I won't be shooting in low light obviously

Now with ios 8 you're able to change your camera settings instead of it just being auto


The problem I still see coming up is audio, but I've seen some mic attachments that might work, and battery

I didn't mean I would completely ditch the dslr I'll obviously use it for more technical shots but the convenience of using my phone just sounds so nice


Some of these posts are fucking hilarious ^^^^

no offense bro, but if you wanted a convenient camera that shot nice quality in normal light, you could have stuck with your old phone and bought the latest gopro which is pretty fucking badass specs wise. Plus you'd still have a phone to listen to music instead of draining the battery, and you can buy another go pro to tape to your ass just cos it still cost less than a iphone 6...

if you really are getting into this tho, i have a steadicam that works for lighter cameras, iphone work too, pm me if you want to know, cos its at the bottom of a filled ski gear bag right now and can't remember what it's called
Sep 22 2014 5:09PM
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eheath
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_RonSwanson_Instead of just saying that could ya give me some info as to why you think it's such a dumb idea?


Because is a fucking phone dude. You own a video camera and want to use a phone instead?

The sensor is tiny, no ability to change lenses minus adding shitty fisheyes.

Don't just use and iphone6 because it shoots 240. Im sure its a 240 burst as well and I bet it doesn't even look that great at full res.
Sep 22 2014 5:12PM
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jfxphoto
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McLSno offense bro, but if you wanted a convenient camera that shot nice quality in normal light, you could have stuck with your old phone and bought the latest gopro which is pretty fucking badass specs wise. Plus you'd still have a phone to listen to music instead of draining the battery, and you can buy another go pro to tape to your ass just cos it still cost less than a iphone 6...

if you really are getting into this tho, i have a steadicam that works for lighter cameras, iphone work too, pm me if you want to know, cos its at the bottom of a filled ski gear bag right now and can't remember what it's called


I have a gopro.

My plan was up so I was getting the phone no matter what :/
Sep 22 2014 5:14PM
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SimplyClean
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Maybe you should use your phone and learn how to spell the most simple words before you ditch the DSLR.

Mike = mic
you're = your
steadicam.... do you seriously think steadi is how you spell steady?
Sep 22 2014 6:06PM
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jfxphoto
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SimplyCleanMaybe you should use your phone and learn how to spell the most simple words before you ditch the DSLR.

Mike = mic
you're = your
steadicam.... do you seriously think steadi is how you spell steady?


Gramma nazis will be gramma nazis

I'm typing on my phone so deal w it
Sep 22 2014 6:28PM
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jfxphoto
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pussyfooterBecause is a fucking phone dude. You own a video camera and want to use a phone instead?

The sensor is tiny, no ability to change lenses minus adding shitty fisheyes.

Don't just use and iphone6 because it shoots 240. Im sure its a 240 burst as well and I bet it doesn't even look that great at full res.


I should have said "use the dslr less" not "ditch the dslr" I'll still be using it for sure. I just was stoked after seeing how well it was doing video (Fps) and thought I need to take it up to the hill.
Sep 22 2014 6:42PM
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eheath
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_RonSwanson_I should have said "use the dslr less" not "ditch the dslr" I'll still be using it for sure. I just was stoked after seeing how well it was doing video (Fps) and thought I need to take it up to the hill.


Are you judging off of the one clip in the keynote or is the other sample footage? Seems silly to get riled up about your phone doing 240fps at 720p
Sep 22 2014 6:43PM
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lIllI
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_RonSwanson_Instead of just saying that could ya give me some info as to why you think it's such a dumb idea?


Because inexperienced videographers (most of NS) define "quality" in terms of content and image clarity, neither of which are as important as your art.

I say go for it. It could be a healthy or interesting experiment. Some of my fondest video memories arose from me grabbing a cheap, unassuming camera and getting weird with it, despite all the slo-mo FS700 circlejerking gearwhores on the internet who will tell you otherwise. If anything, using a shitty video camera like an iPhone 6 (outside of the cell phone realm, it is by all means not a good video camera) will strip away distractions and force you to rely on your actual skills rather than meaningless technological acrobatics.
Sep 22 2014 7:30PM
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Noddard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZMvJ5qFWlc#t=546
Sep 22 2014 7:40PM
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J_Steez
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C.DeJohnMake sure you film it all vertical looks way better...


dem black bars doe!
Sep 22 2014 7:55PM
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EM_Productions
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TBH this is actually a good idea... They make the Glidecam IGlide and they have an attachment for the iphone... the only problem i see is maybe battery life on the iphone, but you could just buy alot of battery cases!!!
Sep 22 2014 9:53PM
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jfxphoto
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pussyfooterAre you judging off of the one clip in the keynote or is the other sample footage? Seems silly to get riled up about your phone doing 240fps at 720p


Haha it got me riled up because I only shoot with a t3i and 240fps is def way past what I'm used to. I have been messing around with it a lot and am still impressed!

Ex?
http://vimeo.com/m/106557317
Sep 22 2014 10:05PM
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dan_swagner
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SimplyCleanMaybe you should use your phone and learn how to spell the most simple words before you ditch the DSLR.

Mike = mic
you're = your
steadicam.... do you seriously think steadi is how you spell steady?


steadicam is spelled with an i

its a trademarked name
Sep 22 2014 10:27PM
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Loey
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C.DeJohnMake sure you film it all vertical looks way better...


JosephRikysYour stuck with the setting apple gives you. You cant change exposure, aperture and all that fancy shiz. No changing lenses no (high quality) fish eyes. The list goes on.


haha vertical, what a joke

Look up death lens. or ollo clip. the death lens is a super sick fish eye, and ollo clip provides macro, wide angle, and fisheye. ALSO you can buy a DSLR attachment for your phone to put canon lenses on your phone.

ANOTHER THING is that most likely you wouldn't be filming an all slow mo edit. therefore you can still film at 1080p 60fps and get super clear shots.

ON THE DOWNSIDE you may look like a complete goon but if you make a sick edit they cant say shit.

I just got the 6 and i'm planning on filming with it a bit even though I have a Canon T3I and a Gopro 3
Sep 22 2014 11:54PM
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cydwhit
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lIllIBecause inexperienced videographers (most of NS) define "quality" in terms of content and image clarity, neither of which are as important as your art.

I say go for it. It could be a healthy or interesting experiment. Some of my fondest video memories arose from me grabbing a cheap, unassuming camera and getting weird with it, despite all the slo-mo FS700 circlejerking gearwhores on the internet who will tell you otherwise. If anything, using a shitty video camera like an iPhone 6 (outside of the cell phone realm, it is by all means not a good video camera) will strip away distractions and force you to rely on your actual skills rather than meaningless technological acrobatics.



I agree with everything you said but I think part of the reaction to this thread comes from the fact that OP seems to be focusing on "dat 240fps slomo." Of course the best camera is always the one you have with you, the problem comes when you get all hot and bothered about a spec that really doesn't matter and is the kind of thing the gearwhores you mentioned (albeit on a much larger scale) are obsessed with. Thus OP comes across on focusing on those "meaningless technological acrobatics" (great phrase) rather than wanting to make something good.

So yeah, cool OP, make edits with your iPhone, film all you can, just don't assume that the phone is a better tool than your DSLR just because of one spec.
Sep 23 2014 12:31AM
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lIllI
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cydwhitI agree with everything you said but I think part of the reaction to this thread comes from the fact that OP seems to be focusing on "dat 240fps slomo." Of course the best camera is always the one you have with you, the problem comes when you get all hot and bothered about a spec that really doesn't matter and is the kind of thing the gearwhores you mentioned (albeit on a much larger scale) are obsessed with. Thus OP comes across on focusing on those "meaningless technological acrobatics" (great phrase) rather than wanting to make something good.

So yeah, cool OP, make edits with your iPhone, film all you can, just don't assume that the phone is a better tool than your DSLR just because of one spec.


Good point, Cy. Perhaps I misunderstood his intentions.

So yeah, if you want good image quality, skip the phone. If you want an artistic experiment, go for it!
Sep 23 2014 12:40AM
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GritznGravy
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This is a perfect thread for JLev to come in and tell everyone shitting on OP to stop taking themselves so seriously. It's just skiing - and guess what? It's just ski filming too! Peeps should just be stoked that OP wants to experiment with something a little bit different. Gear whores just get off on the fact that know a lot of filming jargon that most people don't. It's super annoying.
Sep 23 2014 11:51AM
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NMMedia
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I feel like the fps honestly isn't that important since i don't you ever really need to show anything down that much. Your overall quality will be much better with the DSLR than with a phone.
Sep 23 2014 1:33PM
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Bagina
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Get a good phone pussy.
Sep 23 2014 6:07PM
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jfxphoto
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cydwhitI agree with everything you said but I think part of the reaction to this thread comes from the fact that OP seems to be focusing on "dat 240fps slomo." Of course the best camera is always the one you have with you, the problem comes when you get all hot and bothered about a spec that really doesn't matter and is the kind of thing the gearwhores you mentioned (albeit on a much larger scale) are obsessed with. Thus OP comes across on focusing on those "meaningless technological acrobatics" (great phrase) rather than wanting to make something good.

So yeah, cool OP, make edits with your iPhone, film all you can, just don't assume that the phone is a better tool than your DSLR just because of one spec.



Wise words.

Thank you for the thoughtful post.
Sep 23 2014 7:14PM
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Mr_Mistur
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Is this a joke?

Sep 26 2014 11:11PM
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spruitm
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I think we can all agree that we are looking forward to you posting your first iPhone edit.

I would never try it, but go for it. Prove the haters wrong
Sep 26 2014 11:19PM
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slt.shred
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http://snowboarding.transworld.net/videos/mark-gama-season-edit-2014

ill just leave this here, shot on an iphone and made its way onto transworld snowboarding
Sep 27 2014 12:50AM
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AScaccianoce
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IPhone 6 plus has the optical stabilization. All you need is a lifeproof and you are set for some laps of features through the park.
Nov 8 2014 12:36PM
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BlackcountryBill
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If the bunch shot Finess with a potato then I'm sure you'll be fine with an iphone.
Nov 11 2014 2:50PM
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BlackcountryBill
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BlackcountryBillIf the bunch shot Finess with a potato then I'm sure you'll be fine with an iphone.



Turns out the quality was just horrible on NS, it's fine on vimeo.

Still, people do a lot worse with proper cameras than you might with an iphone.
Nov 11 2014 3:14PM
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27sloan
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The IK Multimedia iRig Mic Cast is pretty good if your taking this seriously. i had it all the way through the summer and you can make some crappy videos sound a lot nicer. And its only $40
Nov 15 2014 12:29PM
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jfxphoto
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27sloanThe IK Multimedia iRig Mic Cast is pretty good if your taking this seriously. i had it all the way through the summer and you can make some crappy videos sound a lot nicer. And its only $40


word thanks for the heads up on that man
Nov 15 2014 8:43PM
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Am_park
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Unless u can figure out how to stabilize then you r fucked
Nov 16 2014 2:16PM
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