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Dubins
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So I'm looking for an everyday ski to go with my atomatics. I tend to seek out stashes, I'm more of a directional skier than I like to think and don't ski park. I've been shredding my SFBs which I love but I'm ready for something new. I've been looking at 4frnt devistators, on3p kartel 106, and the shredditor 102... Wanted to see what you guys thought! I'm open to any suggestions. Thanks guys!
Aug 28 2014 1:20AM
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RudyGarmisch
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What do you like about your automatics and what did you like about the sfb's? What do you wish the new ski to feel closer to out of the two you've mentioned here?
Aug 28 2014 9:43AM
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tomPietrowski
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If you already like the feel of the 117 automatic there is a 108 version this season. or maybe look at the rocker 100 from salomon or the Qlab or q98. the Qlab is one of the best directional all mnt ski this season.
Aug 28 2014 12:27PM
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Dubins
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I pretty much like everything about the sfb except I don't do that well on it in crud.. It could be just me but I'm looking for my everyday to be a bit better when conditions aren't great, understanding that it will probably give up some of the playfulness the SFB has... And as far as the automatics go they just have a solid feel, awesome floatations and they are super responsive and stable
Aug 28 2014 10:48PM
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Dubins
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Actually I know it's just me because I ski with people who kill it in crud on the bacons... So I guess I'm looking for something to help compensate with my lack of skill haha
Aug 28 2014 10:52PM
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tomPietrowski
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DubinsI pretty much like everything about the sfb except I don't do that well on it in crud.. It could be just me but I'm looking for my everyday to be a bit better when conditions aren't great, understanding that it will probably give up some of the playfulness the SFB has... And as far as the automatics go they just have a solid feel, awesome floatations and they are super responsive and stable


Yeah I woul totall agree about the sfb its a very soft ski so can get really thrown around when conditions are not ideal. I would look somthing a little stiffer. Maybe look at the sick days if you like line. The sick days are by far the beat line skis currently IMO. Or look at the salomon Qlab/q98.
Aug 28 2014 10:52PM
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.lencon
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tomPietrowskiYeah I woul totall agree about the sfb its a very soft ski so can get really thrown around when conditions are not ideal. I would look somthing a little stiffer. Maybe look at the sick days if you like line. The sick days are by far the beat line skis currently IMO. Or look at the salomon Qlab/q98.


Salomon rocker 100s look fun and would do great as well. Some skis that I've heard crush anything(park to groomers to crud to most pow) 4frnt devy, rossi slat, 4frnt gaucho, k2 sheditor 102(these are pretty soft I believe) and faction candide 2.0
Aug 29 2014 9:01AM
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Noobinstein
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I have the Shreditor 102 from 2013-14 version, this years version are almost the same.

Very fun and playful all terrain ski, of course not a powder ski, but works on it too, can hit the park too it is very similar to the SFB, a bit more precise on the dimensions and softer, they do have the directional feel for shredding but its a sin not to play on them as they are perfect for tricks and tries on both directions.
Aug 29 2014 2:12PM
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ANDR01D
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Take a look at what Liberty has to offer. I have a pair of Liberty Morphics from a couple years ago and I use them as my everyday ski. I love them, they're light but still stiff enough to blast crud, and durable as all hell. They don't make the morphics anymore, but they make something that's similar. Maybe opt for something a little wider, the morphics were only 94 underfoot.
Aug 29 2014 3:31PM
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tomPietrowski
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.LincolnSalomon rocker 100s look fun and would do great as well. Some skis that I've heard crush anything(park to groomers to crud to most pow) 4frnt devy, rossi slat, 4frnt gaucho, k2 sheditor 102(these are pretty soft I believe) and faction candide 2.0


The rocker 100 is an amazing ski but won't really suit the op. It is. Symmetrical rocketed ski so it's not going to be amazon charging hard. somthin with a little early rise in the tail such a the Qlab will be muc better. But yeah if your more of a jib skier and not a chatfer rocker 100's are amazing.
Aug 29 2014 3:36PM
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.lencon
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tomPietrowskiThe rocker 100 is an amazing ski but won't really suit the op. It is. Symmetrical rocketed ski so it's not going to be amazon charging hard. somthin with a little early rise in the tail such a the Qlab will be muc better. But yeah if your more of a jib skier and not a chatfer rocker 100's are amazing.


For sure. But as he was coming off bacons and he said he liked them besides they were "too" soft to charge for him. Rocker 100s would be much stiffer tha bacons yes? He for sure will charge harder on other skis but I thought he still wanted a ski he can be playful with, just not as playful.
Aug 29 2014 7:02PM
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stinky_cheese
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4frnt devastator. I just invested in a pair of 'em and couldn't be more stoked
Aug 29 2014 7:17PM
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tomPietrowski
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.LincolnFor sure. But as he was coming off bacons and he said he liked them besides they were "too" soft to charge for him. Rocker 100s would be much stiffer tha bacons yes? He for sure will charge harder on other skis but I thought he still wanted a ski he can be playful with, just not as playful.


Oh yeah for sure they are much better then bacons for skiing hard. They are not that stiff though and with the rocker could be a little unstable at speed. He says be is a directional skier with no real park so I would think a rocker camber early rise tail ski will be his best bet. For example you can ski so much harder on somthing like a q98 compared to the rocker 100 even though they are the same flex Pretty much.
Aug 29 2014 7:26PM
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.lencon
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tomPietrowskiOh yeah for sure they are much better then bacons for skiing hard. They are not that stiff though and with the rocker could be a little unstable at speed. He says be is a directional skier with no real park so I would think a rocker camber early rise tail ski will be his best bet. For example you can ski so much harder on somthing like a q98 compared to the rocker 100 even though they are the same flex Pretty much.


Oh I missed the part of him being directional. Since he had bacons I thought he liked to job around. For sure q 98 would be great. Also like sick days, armada arvti, volkl mantra, armada declivity, blizzard Cochise, and armada invictus would be some solid choices,
Aug 29 2014 7:40PM
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tomPietrowski
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.LincolnOh I missed the part of him being directional. Since he had bacons I thought he liked to job around. For sure q 98 would be great. Also like sick days, armada arvti, volkl mantra, armada declivity, blizzard Cochise, and armada invictus would be some solid choices,


All awsome choices I would add the new narrowrr atomic automatics to that list too And maybe switch the Cochise to the bonifide.
Aug 29 2014 7:57PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Why are you considering the Kartel 106 and what are you concerned about when it comes to the ski?
Aug 30 2014 4:13AM
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mta1741
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DubinsSo I'm looking for an everyday ski to go with my atomatics. I tend to seek out stashes, I'm more of a directional skier than I like to think and don't ski park. I've been shredding my SFBs which I love but I'm ready for something new. I've been looking at 4frnt devistators, on3p kartel 106, and the shredditor 102... Wanted to see what you guys thought! I'm open to any suggestions. Thanks guys!


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Aug 30 2014 9:01PM
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Dubins
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thanks for all the replies guys... I bought the bacons with the intention of being a more jib oriented skier...but it turns out i'm just not haha. Im going into my 4th season switching over from snowboarding so Im still figuring it out. And Darth I don't know exactly why I just know people who love ON3P and say its a great ski. And it seems to be in that 100+ daily driver category. Ive demo'd the Cochise and i really liked them, unfortunately a local store that i'm very loyal too doesn't carry Blizzard, but i am going for something a little more in that realm of ski.
Sep 1 2014 1:29AM
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tomPietrowski
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Dubinsthanks for all the replies guys... I bought the bacons with the intention of being a more jib oriented skier...but it turns out i'm just not haha. Im going into my 4th season switching over from snowboarding so Im still figuring it out. And Darth I don't know exactly why I just know people who love ON3P and say its a great ski. And it seems to be in that 100+ daily driver category. Ive demo'd the Cochise and i really liked them, unfortunately a local store that i'm very loyal too doesn't carry Blizzard, but i am going for something a little more in that realm of ski.

What brands do they sell? What do you have the option to demo?
Sep 2 2014 2:35PM
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Dubins
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Let's see... 4frnt. Armada, atomic, on3p,Solomon, line, volkl. Ya I can eventually but I'm hoping to get rid of my current skis and I'm not sure the automatics are gona rule the early season haha
Sep 3 2014 1:22AM
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tomPietrowski
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DubinsLet's see... 4frnt. Armada, atomic, on3p,Solomon, line, volkl. Ya I can eventually but I'm hoping to get rid of my current skis and I'm not sure the automatics are gona rule the early season haha


I would wait. The automatics rip. I used them a my all mnt ski when I ha them. They carved so hard but were grey in fresh too. Ski them at first and te some option out when you can.
Sep 3 2014 1:40AM
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MartianMan
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I would give the volkl gotama a look as well. So versatile and stable.
Sep 3 2014 6:55PM
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brend
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The shreditor 102 is very soft and a fun ski to ride in the park, pow, and everything in between. I would not recommend it though if you are looking for a stiffer ski.
Sep 4 2014 12:36AM
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