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Rossignol fks 140 durability

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supersquid
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Ok so im 5'10 and about 170 i ski all park 100 + days a year. I will be mounting them on a pair of 2015 on3p filthy riches. My local shop dosent carry them and rule fuses to work on them because people always come in with the pivoting heel piece destroyed from not ejecting right. I'm worried about this happening to me are they a reliable binding or should i look into buying a different binding
Aug 20 2014 12:43PM
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shin-bang
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if your riding a lot of park, i would look for a different binding. because if you happen to break the brake, its roughly 130 bucks. and if your shop wont mount them or work on them, its also not a good idea. i would check out some other options such as marker jesters, attack 16/13, and maybe the sth
Aug 20 2014 1:06PM
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supersquid
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Alright would the axial 12 work or the 2014 jesters i do a lot of butters and am constantly throwing my weight around and do not want pre release. Is the twelve to low because I've heard if you set them at the highest din they dont last as long
Aug 20 2014 2:02PM
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Scotty_Boy
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BillnyeAlright would the axial 12 work or the 2014 jesters i do a lot of butters and am constantly throwing my weight around and do not want pre release. Is the twelve to low because I've heard if you set them at the highest din they dont last as long


The axial 12 is a solid binding but I would look at something with higher din, plus they're really heavy. Personally I'd go sth2 13 or 16 depending on your size.
Aug 20 2014 2:10PM
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supersquid
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And what about the jesters?
Aug 20 2014 2:26PM
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tomPietrowski
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^jesters are good but they do have more stack height then the sth2 or attack so I woul recomend those two before a marker royal.
Aug 20 2014 2:30PM
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supersquid
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Well I've been riding the 2012 squires do they have about the same height or no cause i would probably go with the jesters because my local shop sells marker and rossignol only only services them to
Aug 20 2014 3:12PM
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tomPietrowski
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BillnyeWell I've been riding the 2012 squires do they have about the same height or no cause i would probably go with the jesters because my local shop sells marker and rossignol only only services them to


They are a little higher then squires but jesters are a Good option compared to Rossi so I would say go jester or griffon if you are riding 12 or below.
Aug 20 2014 3:26PM
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joriza.ski
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i rode 111 days last year with two pairs of the FKS 14 and they lasted pretty freaking well. the toe pieces spun out twice and chipped a tiny bit but other wise they killed it all year and protected me from a knee injury. Griffons are good, but the toe pieces get lose sometimes if you do too many butters. I would strongly recommend the FKS 14, FKS 18 (if you weight enough/ride hard enough to set your din at 13ish), or marker jesters
Aug 20 2014 4:00PM
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rozboon
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I don't get the hate on FKS brakes. If you're skiing enough park that you're going to ruin brakes, stockpile brakes from old skis (swapmeets, junk sales, goodwill etc) and learn how to change them yourself. It's a pain that you have to pull the heel off but personally I think it's not a dealbreaker.
Plus the old brakes seem to be made from way, way tougher steel than the new ones.
Aug 20 2014 8:33PM
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Scotty_Boy
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rozboonI don't get the hate on FKS brakes. If you're skiing enough park that you're going to ruin brakes, stockpile brakes from old skis (swapmeets, junk sales, goodwill etc) and learn how to change them yourself. It's a pain that you have to pull the heel off but personally I think it's not a dealbreaker.
Plus the old brakes seem to be made from way, way tougher steel than the new ones.


The hate comes from the fact that fks brakes are usually expensive to replace and are difficult to replace compared to other bindings. For example, sth2 bindings are $25 bucks and are easy to replace.
Aug 20 2014 9:10PM
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IceCoastP
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They are a good binding, like others have said the brakes are a pain in the ass to replace. You could probably get away with fks 180/p18. If you are interested I know someone selling P18's for cheap so PM if interested. And the Look Pivot 18's(green) would look super sick on the new ON3P FR's!
Aug 20 2014 9:36PM
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tomPietrowski
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IceCoastPThey are a good binding, like others have said the brakes are a pain in the ass to replace. You could probably get away with fks 180/p18. If you are interested I know someone selling P18's for cheap so PM if interested. And the Look Pivot 18's(green) would look super sick on the new ON3P FR's!


Come in man at least read the thread if you are going to reply. The op is currently using squires. Do you really think a squire to a fks 180 is a fair enoug jump? It's crazy. The op will be fine on griffons and can go jesters if he wants but there is no need really.
Aug 20 2014 11:58PM
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IceCoastP
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tomPietrowskiCome in man at least read the thread if you are going to reply. The op is currently using squires. Do you really think a squire to a fks 180 is a fair enoug jump? It's crazy. The op will be fine on griffons and can go jesters if he wants but there is no need really.


Completely missed that, a pair of griffons are probably best bet
Aug 22 2014 12:42AM
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50Kal
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Rossi Axial2 120 are what I go to.
Aug 22 2014 5:51AM
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bnewbs6
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I don't get the hate on the fks 14s. they are one of the best bindings I've ever ridden. Super durable and the release is sick. Saved my knees multiple times. The brakes are annoying if you break them, but that is seriously the only downfall. Your shop sounds stupid for turning away such an ingenious binding.
Aug 22 2014 3:07PM
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tomPietrowski
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bnewbs6I don't get the hate on the fks 14s. they are one of the best bindings I've ever ridden. Super durable and the release is sick. Saved my knees multiple times. The brakes are annoying if you break them, but that is seriously the only downfall. Your shop sounds stupid for turning away such an ingenious binding.


quite a few shops are not doub them anymore. They are just far too much of a hassle for most shops. They also have some of the worst adjustment for forward pressure so ovetall they are just not appealing to shops. They don't work better then other equivalent bindings but have more issues so they are not really an appealing binding these days Especially from a business point of view.
Aug 22 2014 4:32PM
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grifrowl
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There is a reason the FKS was revived a while back despite in-brand effort to kill it. Like everything in this world it is not without problem. I think they're well worth the money.
Aug 22 2014 7:43PM
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rozboon
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tomPietrowskiquite a few shops are not doub them anymore. They are just far too much of a hassle for most shops. They also have some of the worst adjustment for forward pressure so ovetall they are just not appealing to shops. They don't work better then other equivalent bindings but have more issues so they are not really an appealing binding these days Especially from a business point of view.


At my local shop they're a special-order item, but at least the techs know how to get the forward pressure dialled (ignore the mark...)

In some ways I can understand the argument around the FKS140/Pivot 14 as it has a lot of very good competition in that space. The Attack 13 looks particularly good, basically a third-generation Griffon with most of the issues ironed out.

However in the 18-DIN binding space, the 180/18 with the one piece metal toe still has a place.
Aug 24 2014 4:19PM
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tomPietrowski
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rozboonAt my local shop they're a special-order item, but at least the techs know how to get the forward pressure dialled (ignore the mark...)

In some ways I can understand the argument around the FKS140/Pivot 14 as it has a lot of very good competition in that space. The Attack 13 looks particularly good, basically a third-generation Griffon with most of the issues ironed out.

However in the 18-DIN binding space, the 180/18 with the one piece metal toe still has a place.


I agree the issue is there are not many skiers who actually require an 18 din binding so orders of the 180 still won't be big.
Aug 24 2014 4:55PM
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