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Greasing fks bindings?

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shin-bang
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so do fks need grease frequently? i also noticed a little hole on the top of the heel piece. is that a grease zerk? when i got them out of the box there was the white grease stuff in all the joints. i just want to maintain my bindings to make them last longer, not trying to be a noob here. cus ive read threads on tgr about greasing them.
Jul 24 2014 5:26PM
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tomPietrowski
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You should not really ever need to mess with your bindings. They come pre greened from the factory but you should not need to do any more. To be honest with bindings let a shop mount and set them up and then have them show you how to adjust the din so you can fine tune as needed.
Jul 24 2014 6:10PM
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shin-bang
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tomPietrowskiYou should not really ever need to mess with your bindings. They come pre greened from the factory but you should not need to do any more. To be honest with bindings let a shop mount and set them up and then have them show you how to adjust the din so you can fine tune as needed.


i plan on letting a shop mount them and stuff. im just wondering after years of use do they need greasing? and i actually know how to set din and forward pressure on the fks and most marker bindings.
Jul 24 2014 6:12PM
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_J.T.i plan on letting a shop mount them and stuff. im just wondering after years of use do they need greasing? and i actually know how to set din and forward pressure on the fks and most marker bindings.


Nope they should be fine. You never want to be taking bindings apart anyway so there is no real way you could freeze the mechanics anyway.

As as for setting them up I would still get a shop to adjust the Fp. Fks are some of the worst for getting the fp correct and often the visual indicator does very little, so best to get someone who can test the bindings to set tem.
Jul 24 2014 6:15PM
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shin-bang
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tomPietrowskiNope they should be fine. You never want to be taking bindings apart anyway so there is no real way you could freeze the mechanics anyway.

As as for setting them up I would still get a shop to adjust the Fp. Fks are some of the worst for getting the fp correct and often the visual indicator does very little, so best to get someone who can test the bindings to set tem.


alright, i still had planned letting my shop do it anyways. im just hope they can do it right, since they cant set the fp on my markers.
Jul 24 2014 6:23PM
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tomPietrowski
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_J.T.alright, i still had planned letting my shop do it anyways. im just hope they can do it right, since they cant set the fp on my markers.


Well are they a Rossi authorized dealer? If they are not they should not be mountin the bindings. If they are the techs will have had to do the certs so will know how to do it. The issue with fks though is less and less people actually know how to set them right, so it may be worth trying a few shops.
Jul 24 2014 6:28PM
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shin-bang
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tomPietrowskiWell are they a Rossi authorized dealer? If they are not they should not be mountin the bindings. If they are the techs will have had to do the certs so will know how to do it. The issue with fks though is less and less people actually know how to set them right, so it may be worth trying a few shops.


haha! i asked them a while back if they were certified rossi and got no response! ill go in an ask once ski season comes back around. thanks tom
Jul 24 2014 6:36PM
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_J.T.haha! i asked them a while back if they were certified rossi and got no response! ill go in an ask once ski season comes back around. thanks tom


No worries. It's always best to try and find out a much a you can from the techs. There are some shit techs out there who are all about the money and will do any work even of they don't fully know how to do it. That is why finding a good shop with knowledgable staff is so vital. Good luck with them.
Jul 24 2014 6:39PM
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shin-bang
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bump, my left heel piece was squeeking pretty good, sounds like i need some grease, anyone know what type of grease and how to do it? im guessing lithium grease?
Jan 6 2015 8:29PM
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shin-bangbump, my left heel piece was squeeking pretty good, sounds like i need some grease, anyone know what type of grease and how to do it? im guessing lithium grease?


I've been on the same pair of FKS bindings for 4 seasons now and have yet to even think about greasing them. Don't fuck with them, they probably don't need grease, it's probably just squeaking because it's cold out. If you are REALLY worried about them, bring them to a shop to check them out, adding grease yourself could result in ruining your bindings and causing them to be unsafe.
Jan 6 2015 8:39PM
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shin-bang
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BWalmerI've been on the same pair of FKS bindings for 4 seasons now and have yet to even think about greasing them. Don't fuck with them, they probably don't need grease, it's probably just squeaking because it's cold out. If you are REALLY worried about them, bring them to a shop to check them out, adding grease yourself could result in ruining your bindings and causing them to be unsafe.


sweet, good to hear youve been on the same pair for 4 seasons. and ya my shop cant do anything right, not even trim skins, but anyways i wont mess with them
Jan 6 2015 10:14PM
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shin-bangbump, my left heel piece was squeeking pretty good, sounds like i need some grease, anyone know what type of grease and how to do it? im guessing lithium grease?


Which part was squeaking? The only real moving parts are the main pivot in the dildo, the ends of the arms and the turntable. None of these should move when you're skiing. If something's squeaking, I'd say it's your boots, then the snow, last place being your bindings. I was skiing a while back with a guy on some Look P18's that were so beat to shit I think most of the paint had come off, and they didn't squeak.

But to answer your question, white lithium grease. Good luck actually getting it inside anywhere meaningful though.
Jan 7 2015 12:05AM
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shin-bang
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rozboonWhich part was squeaking? The only real moving parts are the main pivot in the dildo, the ends of the arms and the turntable. None of these should move when you're skiing. If something's squeaking, I'd say it's your boots, then the snow, last place being your bindings. I was skiing a while back with a guy on some Look P18's that were so beat to shit I think most of the paint had come off, and they didn't squeak.

But to answer your question, white lithium grease. Good luck actually getting it inside anywhere meaningful though.


thanks for being cool rozboon. but yea i had them in my room, and when you insert the boot, the turntable slides back a little bit (the forward pressure) and when it slides it was squeaking a bit. ive seen some threads on tgr about greasing them but just thought id try here on ns
Jan 7 2015 9:20PM
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Buzzy. I've never seen a pair do that before. Any chance you've got some grit in the track mechanism?

If I knew a good way to get some grease back inside I'd say to give them a damn good spray down with something like Brake-kleen but that'll remove any remaining grease and I don't know how you would go about greasing the track without removing the binding from the ski.
Jan 7 2015 10:01PM
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shin-bang
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here fam made this just for you
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/770851.0/how-to-grease-your-fks
May 16 2015 11:20PM
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Literature
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To actually answer your questions:

No, that thing isn't a zerk. It's a little pin that holds the plastic heel cover on the binding.

To take the heel apart, you'll have to get that pin backed out a bit, loosen the DIN screw, and it will pop off. Then you can access the inner portions.

I dig the greasing video, but the interface between the spring and the axle that the whole heel rotates on probably doesn't see benefit from pushing grease in from the sides.

A few years back, I got a pair of rebuilt FKS, used them for a few seasons, and felt like the heels were extra stiff, so I regreased them (completely taking them apart), and they felt more consistent and normal in their release. Haven't had that issue with the stock ones I got new.
May 17 2015 1:53AM
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shin-bang
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LiteratureTo actually answer your questions:

No, that thing isn't a zerk. It's a little pin that holds the plastic heel cover on the binding.

To take the heel apart, you'll have to get that pin backed out a bit, loosen the DIN screw, and it will pop off. Then you can access the inner portions.

I dig the greasing video, but the interface between the spring and the axle that the whole heel rotates on probably doesn't see benefit from pushing grease in from the sides.

A few years back, I got a pair of rebuilt FKS, used them for a few seasons, and felt like the heels were extra stiff, so I regreased them (completely taking them apart), and they felt more consistent and normal in their release. Haven't had that issue with the stock ones I got new.

Sir you are now my idol. Yea I just kind of took note where they came pre greased from the factory, so in the hinges and the turn table so I just tried get grease back to where I originally had noted. Thank you for the information!
May 17 2015 2:23AM
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.WashingtonSir you are now my idol. Yea I just kind of took note where they came pre greased from the factory, so in the hinges and the turn table so I just tried get grease back to where I originally had noted. Thank you for the information!


To be fair, I'm not a trained technician or official personage for bindings, but I've asked a lot of questions and often times find that some of the shops I've dealt with weren't on the same page in terms of what I wanted to get achieved.

So I've taken matters and the accompanying risk into my own hands. Know that you're doing that when you start messing with your own binders.
May 17 2015 2:35AM
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shin-bang
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LiteratureTo be fair, I'm not a trained technician or official personage for bindings, but I've asked a lot of questions and often times find that some of the shops I've dealt with weren't on the same page in terms of what I wanted to get achieved.

So I've taken matters and the accompanying risk into my own hands. Know that you're doing that when you start messing with your own binders.


yea i understand fully that if i get hurt/they break its 100% my fault. and with the used pair i bought (the ones in the video) i actually felt slightly more smoothness after i put some grease in the heel hing points. thanks again man
May 17 2015 11:42AM
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shin-bang
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instant revive, for summer storage.

after rereading all these negative comments, i do have to say greasing them has done nothing but help them be smooth and non sticky. all you joes saying it will ruin them, dont mess with them, you dont know know what youre doing, ect.... ive greased both pairs multiple times, first time being at the start of the season (have had absolutely zero problems with release values throughout the entire season), the last time being today for summer storage.

so tldr; if theyre sticky, and youre putting them up for summer...grab some lithium grease and get after it bois

peace :)
May 4 2016 10:13PM
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shin-bang
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shin-banginstant revive, for summer storage.

after rereading all these negative comments, i do have to say greasing them has done nothing but help them be smooth and non sticky. all you joes saying it will ruin them, dont mess with them, you dont know know what youre doing, ect.... ive greased both pairs multiple times, first time being at the start of the season (have had absolutely zero problems with release values throughout the entire season), the last time being today for summer storage.

so tldr; if theyre sticky, and youre putting them up for summer...grab some lithium grease and get after it bois

peace :)


forgot to mention, i used a slightly different technique when theyre mounted on the skis, but same idea. basically turn the base plate to pi/2. fill all open cracks/grooves with grease, spin like 10 times, repeat. boom your good with nice smooth base plates.
May 4 2016 10:22PM
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