Anyone here not go to college.

no, no one else here did.

I don't see how kids in the states afford to go to college. SHits way too expensive if you're family isn't well off you have to take out a rediculous loan that you'll be paying back for the next 20 years. Meaning you pretty much have to have steady employment at all times following your education... meaning.. haha no travelling for you dickweed.
I'm from Alberta, Canada I pay about $10,000/ year for tuition and I'm pretty sure the amount that our education is subsidized is the lowest of all provinces.
Thought I had it rough.... you poor... "free" souls.

I didn't go to college. I spent 2 years in keystone. Now I'm back in Denver trimming medical Marijuana for a fat ass paycheck.

Mr_OrangeI don't see how kids in the states afford to go to college. SHits way too expensive if you're family isn't well off you have to take out a rediculous loan that you'll be paying back for the next 20 years. Meaning you pretty much have to have steady employment at all times following your education... meaning.. haha no travelling for you dickweed.
I'm from Alberta, Canada I pay about $10,000/ year for tuition and I'm pretty sure the amount that our education is subsidized is the lowest of all provinces.
Thought I had it rough.... you poor... "free" souls.

I pay around 6 grand a year to go to my university in the states... 'Merica

Not here.

The college is for everyone myth needs to get aborted. Honestly I can't understand why it's pushed so hard.


That said college can be a ridiculously valuable tool for many people. I just hate the "Everybody needs to borrow stupid amounts of $ to go to school" bullshit.

Figure out what you want to do and just do it.

stickskiI pay around 6 grand a year to go to my university in the states... 'Merica

Really? I've heard $20,000+ from Americans I've talked to... Actually theres a few kids I've met in my program from texas. They came abroad to Canada because it's cheaper even as an international student than it would have been for them to go to school back home.

What University/Program are you in?

Mr_OrangeI don't see how kids in the states afford to go to college. SHits way too expensive if you're family isn't well off you have to take out a rediculous loan that you'll be paying back for the next 20 years. Meaning you pretty much have to have steady employment at all times following your education... meaning.. haha no travelling for you dickweed.
I'm from Alberta, Canada I pay about $10,000/ year for tuition and I'm pretty sure the amount that our education is subsidized is the lowest of all provinces.
Thought I had it rough.... you poor... "free" souls.

What? I paid way less than 10,000 in tuition a year, I am pretty sure it was around 6,000. Plus scholarships, grants, and work I easily graduated without any debt. Generally public universities are highly subsidized for in state students so even with the cost increase in education, tuition is pretty affordable. If you are going out of state or to private universities then you are going to have a harder time but generally any one that does that is probably well off, got the scholarships they needed, or just stupid. In my opinion people that graduate with massive debt probably made really bad decisions about where they wanted to go to school. A lot of my friends decided that going to college meant they had to leave the state and in the end we all got the same education they just ended up having to pay a lot more.

Mr_OrangeI don't see how kids in the states afford to go to college. SHits way too expensive if you're family isn't well off you have to take out a rediculous loan that you'll be paying back for the next 20 years. Meaning you pretty much have to have steady employment at all times following your education... meaning.. haha no travelling for you dickweed.
I'm from Alberta, Canada I pay about $10,000/ year for tuition and I'm pretty sure the amount that our education is subsidized is the lowest of all provinces.
Thought I had it rough.... you poor... "free" souls.

My tuition was just under $7,000.....

.Hugo.My tuition was just under $7,000.....

I have to take 10k loans and by the time I'm one it's gonna be 60k in total. Next summer i'll start saving a separate fund for it but there's now way I'll have to pay 20k a year thats just ridiculous. Schools try and fuck you over but not that bad.

College is absolutely worth it if you don't have to take out a loan. Otherwise, don't waste your time.

i havent gon yet. but i start next semester... i graduated highschool 3 years ago

i havent gon yet. but i start next semester... i graduated highschool 3 years ago

.Hugo.My tuition was just under $7,000.....

For a semester or a year? If thats a year that is really cheap.

There are plenty of ways to get a college education without going in a significant amount of debt. I chose to live at home and commute to school to save a shit ton of money. Sure I dont get the "college experience" but I dont care at all. Get to ski almost everyday as well in the winter.

TOAST.Sure I dont get the "college experience" but I dont care at all.

You're not missing much. If I could do it over again I'd go to some cheap no-name college and live with my parents.

TOAST.For a semester or a year? If thats a year that is really cheap.

There are plenty of ways to get a college education without going in a significant amount of debt. I chose to live at home and commute to school to save a shit ton of money. Sure I dont get the "college experience" but I dont care at all. Get to ski almost everyday as well in the winter.

A year, 3500 a semester

Mr_OrangeI don't see how kids in the states afford to go to college. SHits way too expensive if you're family isn't well off you have to take out a rediculous loan that you'll be paying back for the next 20 years. Meaning you pretty much have to have steady employment at all times following your education... meaning.. haha no travelling for you dickweed.
I'm from Alberta, Canada I pay about $10,000/ year for tuition and I'm pretty sure the amount that our education is subsidized is the lowest of all provinces.
Thought I had it rough.... you poor... "free" souls.

you'd be very surprised to find out how cheap some good programs are. and it's not like svholarshi

DeebieSkeebiesyou'd be very surprised to find out how cheap some good programs are. and it's not like svholarshi

fuck mobile, Anyways scholarships are mad easy to come by down here as well. I know people that have half their tuition covered by it.

community college maaaaaan not paying a cent tho except for books

but im probably joining military after second year of community college

lots of NSers didn't go to college

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god your the worst

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ya hear. Don't fuck wit ma boy

Mr_OrangeReally? I've heard $20,000+ from Americans I've talked to... Actually theres a few kids I've met in my program from texas. They came abroad to Canada because it's cheaper even as an international student than it would have been for them to go to school back home.

the kids you talked to are probably attending big name/out of state schools. that's where college gets expensive. in state public universities are generally a lot cheaper than out of state or private universities. UNR's tuition is only $5000 (although room and board is around $10,000, but scholarships really help cut down the price.) a lot of people (at least that I know) are 'too good' to go to an instate, public university and feel as though they aren't going to get a decent education anywhere they didn't spend 20k+ a year on.

joke's on them, I'll be graduating with no debt and skiing tahoe every damn day.

hughlorinthe kids you talked to are probably attending big name/out of state schools. that's where college gets expensive. in state public universities are generally a lot cheaper than out of state or private universities. UNR's tuition is only $5000 (although room and board is around $10,000, but scholarships really help cut down the price.) a lot of people (at least that I know) are 'too good' to go to an instate, public university and feel as though they aren't going to get a decent education anywhere they didn't spend 20k+ a year on.

joke's on them, I'll be graduating with no debt and skiing tahoe every damn day.

Its still expensive and requires loans for most if you're paying for it on your own. How are you graduating debt free? Are your parents paying for some, or do you just have a decent job? Tuition for me was like $5600/semester, plus about $300 for books. So 6k/semester. Tuition alone, though. Also, since I went to summer school, I also paid 6k in the summer. But at 12k/year for tuition alone, over four years is still $48,000.00.

snobunnyIts still expensive and requires loans for most if you're paying for it on your own. How are you graduating debt free? Are your parents paying for some, or do you just have a decent job? Tuition for me was like $5600/semester, plus about $300 for books. So 6k/semester. Tuition alone, though. Also, since I went to summer school, I also paid 6k in the summer. But at 12k/year for tuition alone, over four years is still $48,000.00.

These issues have given me a growing sympathy for my socialist state.

The tuition fee for any university is ~1800 euro a year, (but there's a loan for for that (that you can pay back over 30/40 years without interest))

And as a student you can get around a 1000 bucks a month, partly loan (same rules apply as above) and partly a gift if you finish your degree.

Although that gift part has recently changed because the labour party decided to suddenly be less socialist and not care.

Then again living in most Dutch university city's is rather expensive. 600 euro's for a 30 feet room in Amsterdam with a toilet shared by forty other people is more rule then exception.

Did 1.5 years and then left to try and be a pro skier.

Failed miserably, but ended up working at Newschoolers through connections I made.

Wish I had way more business knowledge that I learned in school, and school is way better for meeting friends and chicks than the real world.

However I've managed and have been relatively successful without my degree.

Honestly though... stay in school. Way more girls there.

stickskiI pay around 6 grand a year to go to my university in the states... 'Merica

Seriously if you go to community college you save up a ton of money, what is it instate like five grand a year? Even less if you live at home.

Mr_OrangeI don't see how kids in the states afford to go to college. SHits way too expensive if you're family isn't well off you have to take out a rediculous loan that you'll be paying back for the next 20 years. Meaning you pretty much have to have steady employment at all times following your education... meaning.. haha no travelling for you dickweed.
I'm from Alberta, Canada I pay about $10,000/ year for tuition and I'm pretty sure the amount that our education is subsidized is the lowest of all provinces.
Thought I had it rough.... you poor... "free" souls.

You will pay it in your taxes. Your cost of living is a good deal more than it is in America. As far as I'm concerned it's a wash in the end.

omnidataThese issues have given me a growing sympathy for my socialist state.

The tuition fee for any university is ~1800 euro a year, (but there's a loan for for that (that you can pay back over 30/40 years without interest))

And as a student you can get around a 1000 bucks a month, partly loan (same rules apply as above) and partly a gift if you finish your degree.

Although that gift part has recently changed because the labour party decided to suddenly be less socialist and not care.

Then again living in most Dutch university city's is rather expensive. 600 euro's for a 30 feet room in Amsterdam with a toilet shared by forty other people is more rule then exception.

The problem in the US really isn't the government not paying for everything(as if the govt has magic money stashes anyway) but the them getting involved. Right now in the US anyone can borrow absurd amounts of money to go to school thanks to these loans being government backed. Instead of helping people it's fucking them over imo. Colleges can charge whatever the hell they want and people can borrow tons of money to attend those schools. Keeping a job during school isn't even necessary. You can just borrow like crazy. Then if you get out of school with even a good degree you have a heap of debt to overcome. IF you graduate with a shit degree or drop out you're pretty much fucked.

There isn't really any incentive to cut costs as there is a steady stream of people heading to college regardless of the price.

I went to college and I enjoyed it. I have some debt but i think it was worth it.

I don't understand why people think they have to go to a private college or out of state. they get screwed by tuition costs.

snobunnyIts still expensive and requires loans for most if you're paying for it on your own. How are you graduating debt free? Are your parents paying for some, or do you just have a decent job? Tuition for me was like $5600/semester, plus about $300 for books. So 6k/semester. Tuition alone, though. Also, since I went to summer school, I also paid 6k in the summer. But at 12k/year for tuition alone, over four years is still $48,000.00.

yeah, my parents are helping pay for some, and I have a job that pays decent for my age as well. I know not everyone has that kind of opportunity, believe me. granted, it is still way cheaper than going to a private or out-of-state university.

though the price of college in general is still kinda ridiculous.

Didn't go. Finished Highschool. Packed up my car and moved to Co. Got a job at Woodward. What I personally would get out of college at this point in my life doesn't seem worth the money to me. I can't justify going to myself. So I didn't

good luck to anyone actually trying to retire that doesn't go to college.

Bum it now = regret it when you are 40 and can't ski like you can now.

sammykgood luck to anyone actually trying to retire that doesn't go to college.

Bum it now = regret it when you are 40 and can't ski like you can now.

yeah no one who doesn't need to pay to learn ever retired, they all work till their dying day
and all those 65 yo retires just slay it.
dude if your'e in college and that's the most intelligent post you could come up with
save your $$$ and go skiin
i passed on college and joined the service
they paid me to learn to kill

I'm going to be a senior next year and I have a handful of friends from highschool that didn't go to college. Most tried at CC but felt it wasn't for them. Most of them are doing pretty well for themselves though anyway, but there's almost a 100 percent chance that I will make more money than all of them. Which is kind of stupid because I've spent the past 3/4 years getting fucked up (while keeping good grades), skipping class and sleeping till 11 while they work everyday.

College isn't for everyone... especially with the mega cost of tuition now. But the bottom line without some sort of higher education your chances of making money are very very small.

Have you looked into a trade? If I didn't go to college (which at one point in highschool I almost didn't) I was looking at getting in being a mechanic or doing oil/ac repairs. Have a friend who does it, is 23 now, makes 100k+ a year right now.

I went to college for a few semesters but never learned anything there. I was studying photography but realized that I knew more about photography than they were teaching me by then anyway, so I decided to move to the mountains where I could ski and take some photos of nature which is what I really wanted to be doing anyway. I learned basically everything I know (in an academic sense) from online materials and college course lectures on the YouTube.

I re-enrolled in classes this summer, but my econ teacher doesn't know what she's talking about (didn't know a differential equation after she wrote one on the board, climate science denier, market fetishist, etc) and my bio class is the same one I took in 9th grade, so I'm not going anymore this summer and got a job on a campaign to prevent the over-use of antibiotics on factory farms in California instead (which you should all be concerned about BTW, because it causes the evolution of bacteria which are basically invincible and live on and in the animals that become your food, and if one bad batch gets out we won't have the drugs to treat you or anyone else).

Never stop educating yourself though, college or not. MIT open courseware puts some great lectures on YouTube, as does UKMC, Stanford, UC Berkley, and a lot of other great educational institutions. And always, always, READ BOOKS, DO MATH, and WRITE YOUR THOUGHTS down often to analyze them.

The only real downside of this method is that you don't get a degree (although apparently with MIT OCW you can submit the tests online and get course credits, something I haven't looked into yet), but you also don't get any student loan debt (which you can't free yourself from in bankruptcy, and is keeping the many recent college grads in the states from being able to buy homes). My experience in the "real world" has been that a lot of the kids with the degrees and the debt are working side by side with me at "low wage jobs" (which is a descriptive statement, not a normative one. Ski instructing at mammoth actually paid quite well, also).

Don't go to college if you don't know what you want to do with your life yet, and don't pretend to know what you want to do with your life if you don't just because your friends, or your family, or society, wants you to, or acts like they know what's good for you better than you do. It's your life, don't let anyone else tell you what you need to do with it. Always be willing to help others, but never let them rule over you, or dictate what path you take. In America at least, unless someone else is paying for it, stay away from college for college's sake. Work a job. Live your life. Make friends (try to avoid making enemies, but if you're doing anything right you will at some point). Have some lovers (use condoms and get tested regularly). Allow your heart to be broken because it will only be stronger after. Go somewhere, see something. Have a few experiences and figure out what you're passionate about, because what you're passionate about is what you'll be skilled at, and if you try to force yourself to be passionate about something which you are simply not, it won't last and you will fail. You may still make a lot of money, but you will resent yourself and your money because of what you did for it, who you became to get it. You'll dream daily of what might have been, if only you had not been too afraid to lose what you "had" to find who you were. You will become a slave who pretends to be free by convincing yourself that you love your chains.

Don't chase after money, seek enlightenment and all things will follow. Seek it wherever you are, wherever you go, and in all things you do. The entire world is a classroom, sometimes you'll be the student and sometimes you'll be the teacher, but always make sure you understand the lesson.

You have material needs, but they are not as vast as you've been told they are by the world, and your desire doesn't have to be directed where the public relations industry wants it. Never let anyone else define "success" for you. You aren't a "consumer" or a "producer," a "maker" or a "taker," you are you, and no one else. Your life is your is your movie. You are the writer, directer, casting director, star actor, editor, and the only audience member which stays around through the entire thing, so make sure that you're happy with it when the credits roll.

Live in doubt, and always question the answers.

As one who hasn't done any post secondary schooling (yet), all I can really say is don't go unless you know what you want out if it in the end. Too many people continue their schooling after high school more so because it is what is expected of them. Going to school and either dropping out/ not using your degree after is silly.

I know this is long and a bit repetitive, Im just spewing out college decision making information.

I'm going out of state and am paying 18,000 for tuition + room and board with no scholarships and only financial aid was a 5,500 student loan. Honestly that's not that bad at all for out of state. Most instate public universities especially in the NE area are 20,000+ if you stay there. And in Canada I would bet because I dont know anything about the taxes and what not but I'm sure you must have higher living cost or something that pays for these college costs through the government.

I made the decision for out of state because it was actually cheaper than an instate college that I could go to where I could live there (not counting CC), and because of the location.

There are plenty of people that go to 40/50 or even 60 thousand dollar schools here in the United States. Wouldn't call it wise unless you plan on having a very good job and work your ass off/rich.

Nothing wrong with CC for two years and then transferring to a school. You certainly save a lot of money, I just wanted to leave my state and go visit some where else for a change.

The thing about doing a trade or not going to college is yes you don't have loans, make money right away, and can make it most of the time, but older people in my family that have gone through all that and didn't go to college said you wear out your body a lot faster because many of those jobs require much more manual labor. Also how most of the time you get awful if any benefits which can later effect retirement forcing you to work longer in life. All of them have said to me "Go to college, get your education". I don't look at people any less that don't go to college, but people that don't go and have no plans then those are the people I think are wasting their life and missing out on a lot of expierences.

I understand though that some people just don't go to college because they know they won't make it but to not go because of cost is kinda ridiculous. If you try hard enough, save up money from working, had a college savings account ( even a couple bucks every once in a while since you were really little), and some other things you could certainly go to a college. Maybe not the best but you could certainly go for insanely cheap. Like 4,000 for a year on average to a community college or even for free to one. End up with some small loans, get a decent job, pay off your loans and you're all set.
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At bigger/ more expensive schools I would say there can be more opportunities is what makes them more expensive, not the level of education is a factor all the time. Also the location and overall name, which typically means nothing later on.

Dan goes to Berkely college of Music and payed 60,000 dollars a year in tuition now he’s earning some quarters here and there.

theabortionatorThe problem in the US really isn't the government not paying for everything(as if the govt has magic money stashes anyway) but the them getting involved. Right now in the US anyone can borrow absurd amounts of money to go to school thanks to these loans being government backed. Instead of helping people it's fucking them over imo. Colleges can charge whatever the hell they want and people can borrow tons of money to attend those schools. Keeping a job during school isn't even necessary. You can just borrow like crazy. Then if you get out of school with even a good degree you have a heap of debt to overcome. IF you graduate with a shit degree or drop out you're pretty much fucked.

There isn't really any incentive to cut costs as there is a steady stream of people heading to college regardless of the price.

where are these gov loans that give you massive amounts? I applied for the gov loans and they were like 2500 tops for someone with my household income or something. I ended up with a private student loan. I just remember the gov loans were pathetic and didn't cover anything.

snobunnywhere are these gov loans that give you massive amounts? I applied for the gov loans and they were like 2500 tops for someone with my household income or something. I ended up with a private student loan. I just remember the gov loans were pathetic and didn't cover anything.

I'm paying for my 150% of in state tuition at Montana State almost entirely with government loans and grants.

Thizzle.I'm paying for my 150% of in state tuition at Montana State almost entirely with government loans and grants.

hmm, yeah this was at MSU 10 years ago, and maybe I don't remember correctly, but I did have to take out a private loan. Out of state tuition though.

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fckin rght m8

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I like you.

Attended a half of a semester at a community college. Was relearning the same shit in high school. I ended up saying fuck that I'm going skiing instead and not getting absurd amounts of debt.

last_tangoAttended a half of a semester at a community college. Was relearning the same shit in high school. I ended up saying fuck that I'm going skiing instead and not getting absurd amounts of debt.

The first semester of any college anywhere is relearning high school shit. If you didn't have the foresight to look ahead to the more advanced classes, knowledge, and skills you would gain then you probably should never have started. Obviously college isn't for everyone but just saying, basically the whole first year is intro shit and most people know that going in to it.

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Yoski you didnt go or are not going to harvard. You have changed your story so many times you must be a fucking 85 iq jackass to think anybody still believes you.

About a month ago you said you were going to harvard.

More recently you said you were currently in harvard.

Now you claim you went to harvard.

Get a fucking life dude, claiming harvard... Youre a total joke

Thizzle.The first semester of any college anywhere is relearning high school shit. If you didn't have the foresight to look ahead to the more advanced classes, knowledge, and skills you would gain then you probably should never have started. Obviously college isn't for everyone but just saying, basically the whole first year is intro shit and most people know that going in to it.

I know that but couldn't handle the mundane work and no social life at all with work and since it was a community college pretty much nobody had time for a social life. I'm also pissed off that you have to pay to learn shit you already know for a whole year when you could be learning stuff that is going to be useful.

I tried it out and did not like it at all and bailed out before accumulating too much debt.

No college here. 4 yrs military service, then trade school is the path I took.

acualywasdolanYoski you didnt go or are not going to harvard. You have changed your story so many times you must be a fucking 85 iq jackass to think anybody still believes you.

About a month ago you said you were going to harvard.

More recently you said you were currently in harvard.

Now you claim you went to harvard.

Get a fucking life dude, claiming harvard... Youre a total joke

Summer school bro.