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bakedpow
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I know there are more brown pow lovers on this site, yah there is pinkbike but lets be honest, newshcoolers is wayyyy cooler. so lets posts our rides, questions about components, mechanic questions etc in this thread.

I just bought this beauty and i definitely sacrificed uphill capabiltiy in order to get a beefier dh/park bike. id been on a nomad for a while and it's a huge switch in riding styles for me. definitely getting used to the weight and having to keep speed a lot more.

specs for said beauty, 2011 rc2 dh totem, 2012 dhx rc4, highrollers front and back (gona go dhf front and highroller in the back), mtx 33 wheel set, slx brakes, diablous cranks, FSA 760mm Handlebar, Shimano SLX Shifter & Shimano Deore XT Derailleur.



Alright newschoolers, post your bikes. i wanna see some sexy steeds.
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snapped
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californiagrownI distinctly remember seeing one on CG a few months back for something like $1400. Helluva deal, i know, but there are crazy deals out there.


Damn, and true, I got my 2014 upgraded Demo 8-1 for 2600, sometimes you just get lucky
Apr 6 2015 11:02AM
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Slush
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californiagrownI think your meter is broken there bub.


JuliusJHaha was sort of giving you shit just make an edit and people will watch


*Facepalm* Hahaha I see now. I'm not very good at picking up on sarcasm!
Apr 6 2015 2:58PM
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GANDALF
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Today I had the most fun I have ever had on a mountain bike. This shit is addicting.
Apr 7 2015 12:44AM
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byubound
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GANDALFToday I had the most fun I have ever had on a mountain bike. This shit is addicting.


Where did you ride?
Apr 7 2015 1:18AM
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bakedpow
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GANDALFToday I had the most fun I have ever had on a mountain bike. This shit is addicting.


Damnit Doug why did I sell my bike? It's perfect riding weather right now.
Apr 7 2015 11:55AM
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Tinga
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I got out last weekend for the first time. I went down to the twin cities and rode some super flat trails. Can't wait till i can start riding some elevation.
Apr 7 2015 8:38PM
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saskskier
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So I'm planning on getting a half decent bike (used) and am looking at spending around $2000-$2500ish. Right now leaning towards a Yeti SB66, Ibis Mojo HD, Santa Cruz Nomad, Transition Covert or Banshee Rune.

Anyone have experience with any of these?

I plan on spending most of my time riding in the western Rockies (Kananaskis, Canmore, Banff area).
Apr 7 2015 9:54PM
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californiagrown
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saskskierSo I'm planning on getting a half decent bike (used) and am looking at spending around $2000-$2500ish. Right now leaning towards a Yeti SB66, Ibis Mojo HD, Santa Cruz Nomad, Transition Covert or Banshee Rune.

Anyone have experience with any of these?

I plan on spending most of my time riding in the western Rockies (Kananaskis, Canmore, Banff area).


How experienced are you? what have you ridden in the past, and what do you plan on riding in the future?
Apr 7 2015 10:16PM
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saskskier
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californiagrownHow experienced are you? what have you ridden in the past, and what do you plan on riding in the future?


I used to ride a ton and spent years on a street/dj mtb (custom Black Market Riot build) and then 3-4 years on a bmx. It's been a few years since I've been on something, but now I'm definitely interested in something I can spend a few hours to a full day riding. I want to be able to pedal (not super concerned about how fast I get up), but also have fun on the way down.
Apr 7 2015 10:28PM
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JuliusJ
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saskskierSo I'm planning on getting a half decent bike (used) and am looking at spending around $2000-$2500ish. Right now leaning towards a Yeti SB66, Ibis Mojo HD, Santa Cruz Nomad, Transition Covert or Banshee Rune.

Anyone have experience with any of these?

I plan on spending most of my time riding in the western Rockies (Kananaskis, Canmore, Banff area).


Any of those would be sick. You could buy an 26" SICK ass bike for near that amount. Maybe a carbon frame, at least decent components

Heres a Pinkbike search of USA/Canada. limited it to 26" and a price minimum of $1500, just skimmed the first page, most of the bikes look sick. Have at it.

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/list/?region=3&category=2&price=1500..&wheelsize=8
Apr 8 2015 12:00AM
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saskskier
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JuliusJAny of those would be sick. You could buy an 26" SICK ass bike for near that amount. Maybe a carbon frame, at least decent components

Heres a Pinkbike search of USA/Canada. limited it to 26" and a price minimum of $1500, just skimmed the first page, most of the bikes look sick. Have at it.

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/list/?region=3&category=2&price=1500..&wheelsize=8


Oh I'm all over Pinkbike and have a few potentials on my watchlist. I'm just wondering if anyone here has experience with any of those bikes.

Another one I may be looking at is the Santa Cruz Blur LT or LTc.

Also, does anyone have any experience with longer travel 29ers? I'm open to the idea of something like a Banshee Prime or Transition Covert 29er. I've heard pretty good things?
Apr 8 2015 1:42PM
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JuliusJ
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saskskierOh I'm all over Pinkbike and have a few potentials on my watchlist. I'm just wondering if anyone here has experience with any of those bikes.

Another one I may be looking at is the Santa Cruz Blur LT or LTc.

Also, does anyone have any experience with longer travel 29ers? I'm open to the idea of something like a Banshee Prime or Transition Covert 29er. I've heard pretty good things?


Had a Blur LT. Fucking loved it. Now have an Enduro 27.5, which an older enduro could be a good choice as well and they are had to be cheap. So no, can't give a lot of help unless you want to talk enduros or blur LT's
Apr 8 2015 4:03PM
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*TURBONERD*
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*bike nerdz
Apr 8 2015 4:45PM
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DayMan
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I wish there were mountains to bike on in Florida. I was just starting to get into some XC stuff in CO before I moved, I love biking. I'm stuck with my road bike for now though..
Apr 8 2015 8:06PM
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slothking
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saskskierSo I'm planning on getting a half decent bike (used) and am looking at spending around $2000-$2500ish. Right now leaning towards a Yeti SB66, Ibis Mojo HD, Santa Cruz Nomad, Transition Covert or Banshee Rune.

Anyone have experience with any of these?

I plan on spending most of my time riding in the western Rockies (Kananaskis, Canmore, Banff area).

I recently got a covert 27.5 and am loving it
Apr 8 2015 8:37PM
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ThaLorax
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First ride of the year yesterday. Did a day trip to Fruita and rode the 18 Rd trails. It was almost too windy to enjoy it though.
Apr 8 2015 9:10PM
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JuliusJ
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ThaLoraxFirst ride of the year yesterday. Did a day trip to Fruita and rode the 18 Rd trails. It was almost too windy to enjoy it though.


Haha thats when you need to shut up and remember you're riding Fruita.
Apr 8 2015 10:20PM
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NinetyFour
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On my coffee breaks at work I'm usually browsing the good old internets. Today I was scoping some pro XC rigs, Pink Bike did some sweet bike checks:

Firstly the cockpit setup on Jaroslav's bike is mega wacky. It looks like he's ready to climb to the moon with it. Secondly those Dugast tubulars Nino runs are also mega fucked up. I don't even want to know how much work it would take to set those up, the tan colour of the casing looks great though so it's probably all worth it (I'd imagine they perform good to).

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/nove-mesto-xc-world-cup-day-one-in-the-pits.html

Some great looking bikes in here as well. Julien Absalon's BMC from both articles is so goddamn beautiful, when painted with just white or red trim they look weird though. And WTF at that string carbon seatpost clamp. Carbon is a beautiful thing but wow, I think I would sacrifice a few grams just to have the peace of mind that my seat is going to stay in place (Marco Fontana snapped his seatpost at the 2012 olympics, still got bronze but it took him out of gold or silver contetion).

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/albstadt-bike-checks-xc-world-cup-2014.html
Apr 8 2015 11:23PM
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ThaLorax
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JuliusJHaha thats when you need to shut up and remember you're riding Fruita.


Funny you should say that. My friend and I kept joking that riding back at home (Aspen/Snowmass area) is better riding than where we drove 3 hours to get to (Fruita). I've done the Horsethief Bench trails as well on a different trip, and I (personally) thought the Horsethief side was more fun than the stuff off 18 road. I could see the 18 Road trails being more fun if we had a bigger crew and someone could truck you up and down that main road.
Apr 9 2015 12:28AM
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QuantumMechanic
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ThaLoraxFunny you should say that. My friend and I kept joking that riding back at home (Aspen/Snowmass area) is better riding than where we drove 3 hours to get to (Fruita). I've done the Horsethief Bench trails as well on a different trip, and I (personally) thought the Horsethief side was more fun than the stuff off 18 road. I could see the 18 Road trails being more fun if we had a bigger crew and someone could truck you up and down that main road.


Yeah 18 road is more of a family type area if you ask me. More mellow stuff that is definitely better with a shuttle. I'll usually go out with some buddies and do hot laps on Joe's. Horsethief and Mary's and the whole south side of the highway out there by Mack is more fun in my opinion. Also the lunch loop trailhead of the Tabeguache is 5 minutes from my house and I ride there all the time. It's sick
Apr 9 2015 4:14PM
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ThaLorax
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QuantumMechanicYeah 18 road is more of a family type area if you ask me. More mellow stuff that is definitely better with a shuttle. I'll usually go out with some buddies and do hot laps on Joe's. Horsethief and Mary's and the whole south side of the highway out there by Mack is more fun in my opinion. Also the lunch loop trailhead of the Tabeguache is 5 minutes from my house and I ride there all the time. It's sick

Ya, Horsethief and Mary's is way more fun IMO. Haven't ridden the lunch loop yet.
Apr 9 2015 7:20PM
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Slush
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Anyone know any sick mountain biking hoodies? I'm not trying to be some a-hole going "oh look at me", I just want to have some dope hoodies to rep MTB, since all my skiing hoodies are now invalid
Apr 10 2015 10:32AM
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snapped
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NinetyFourSecondly those Dugast tubulars Nino runs are also mega fucked up. I don't even want to know how much work it would take to set those up, the tan colour of the casing looks great though so it's probably all worth it (I'd imagine they perform good to).



It sucks setting them up, but Dugast is the shit once you get it dialed
Apr 10 2015 11:46AM
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ThaLorax
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TwinipzAnyone know any sick mountain biking hoodies? I'm not trying to be some a-hole going "oh look at me", I just want to have some dope hoodies to rep MTB, since all my skiing hoodies are now invalid


Idk why,but most of them are either super bro or super xc nerdy with not much in between. WTB amd Fox make some OK ones.
Apr 10 2015 11:59AM
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XtRemE11
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snappedIt sucks setting them up, but Dugast is the shit once you get it dialed


After running cotton casing tires on my road bike i'd love to try them out on a mtb. (i think dugast mtb tires are still cotton?)
They soak up bumps and imperfections in the road to the point that smaller stuff is eliminated yet they still feel stiffer and more responsive compared to an equal size rubber casing.
Apr 10 2015 3:42PM
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NinetyFour
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XtRemE11After running cotton casing tires on my road bike i'd love to try them out on a mtb. (i think dugast mtb tires are still cotton?)


I beleive they're available in cotton or silk. I'd never run tubs on anything that isn't a race bike though (I've never ran them before) but I'd hate to get a puncture or pinch flat on any lengthy kind of a ride.
Apr 10 2015 4:17PM
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shocker611
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Also, whats the deal with buying off of pinkbike? How much is shipping generally with a mountain bike and is it common to get screwed over with a broken bike?
Apr 10 2015 8:05PM
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NinetyFour
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division.bellLooking forward to tubeless though as I did pinch flat my front tire on a ride during the best part of the descent. A few patches, and the first of 10 total minutes pumping trailside with my mini pump later, and I was wishing I had done the conversion much sooner.


On this, I carry a 6" length of radio control fuel tubing in my saddle bag. It fits snugly over the threads of a presta valve, and once I have things into place I use it to inflate the tube to give it some shape and air volume. From there I'll fire off a cartridge into the tube or pump it up to give it sufficient pressure. It does take a pretty good blow but it definitely saves the effort of trying to pump a tube up from zero.
Apr 10 2015 9:02PM
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division.bell
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NinetyFourOn this, I carry a 6" length of radio control fuel tubing in my saddle bag. It fits snugly over the threads of a presta valve, and once I have things into place I use it to inflate the tube to give it some shape and air volume. From there I'll fire off a cartridge into the tube or pump it up to give it sufficient pressure. It does take a pretty good blow but it definitely saves the effort of trying to pump a tube up from zero.


I've definitely considered using CO2, but it's really not worth the extra cost versus the few extra minutes of manual labor each time. My 4.6" tires require a lot of air; I've not tried it, but I am guessing it would take 3-4 25g cartridges to get it inflated. Maybe worth a one time experiment to really see how many it would take, but I wouldn't want to carry that many CO2 cartridges, or any at all for that matter, as a complement to my mini-pump, which is always with me during a ride of any distance anyways. Road bikes? I'd probably consider it, but not for mountain.

Speaking of fatbike tires...I just picked up a tiny Shimano digital air pressure gauge so I can hopefully get some accurate readings once I go tubeless. My last rides on the fatties I was barely hitting 5psi on my floor pump's gauge, but I doubt it's even close to accurate at that low of psi.
Apr 11 2015 2:16AM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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I've got a 2014 Norco Aurum looking to upgrade. Tax refund is coming in, but stuck between what to upgrade. Rear shock or wheel set.

Parts Considering:
-Fox Van R (no compression adjust) --> Cane Creek Coil
-Sunringle 29 -->Deemax Ultimate

Only choosing one for now, what would you guys do?
Apr 11 2015 10:21PM
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Dustin.
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I'm looking to upgrade the 170mm Fox 34 Factory fork on my 2014 Genius LT to the 36. I've found some that were removed from 2015 Genius LT's, but only the tuned LT 700s have the Kashima coating.

Are the 36 forks on the 710 and 720 LT's unique only to those models? I can only find the standard Kashima 36 on Fox's website, so I have no idea if the other forks are the same but just minus the gold coat.
Apr 12 2015 5:58PM
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byubound
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Loco-Deer-SlayerI've got a 2014 Norco Aurum looking to upgrade. Tax refund is coming in, but stuck between what to upgrade. Rear shock or wheel set.

Parts Considering:
-Fox Van R (no compression adjust) --> Cane Creek Coil
-Sunringle 29 -->Deemax Ultimate

Only choosing one for now, what would you guys do?

How do you feel about not having adjustment on the shock? In my opinion, the difference in the feel between coil shocks isn't huge unless one is lacking service, so the main benefit would be adjustment. If you don't need that, get the wheels.
Apr 12 2015 8:39PM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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byuboundHow do you feel about not having adjustment on the shock? In my opinion, the difference in the feel between coil shocks isn't huge unless one is lacking service, so the main benefit would be adjustment. If you don't need that, get the wheels.


That's actually pretty good to know. I have no complaints with my current coil so I'll just stick with that for a while.

How about a titanium spring vs. steel? Aside from weight / cool factor is it a noticeable and worthwhile upgrade?

Also, unrelated, what DH race series are in NM / CO / UT / ID other than GoRide? I used to race Mountain States Cup, but they have done away with that.
Apr 12 2015 10:01PM
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Carl_the_Llama
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Bike.


Kind of a project for me, recently got this frame and switched all my parts over. Now has small block eights. I'm not huge into biking, but looking to get more into it now that I have a bike I actually like...
Parts list. Any input on stuff to upgrade asap would be dope!
Frame: deity street sweeper
Headset: FSA
BB: Spanish; came with frame, probably needs replacing...
Stem: blkmrkt underboss
Bars: blkmrkt bada-bing
Grips: odi longnecks
Brake(s): Avid juicy 3
Fork: Marzocchi dj3
Wheels: not too sure... probably need replacing...
Tires: kenda sb8
Seat: blkmrkt knuckle-something-er-other...
Cranks: some sort of three piece bmx style cranks...
Yah.... It was a 2008 blkmrkt 357 that I bought used, gonna gradually get it custom and decent... Mostly stock at the moment... But it's getting there...
Apr 12 2015 10:31PM
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byubound
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Loco-Deer-SlayerThat's actually pretty good to know. I have no complaints with my current coil so I'll just stick with that for a while.

How about a titanium spring vs. steel? Aside from weight / cool factor is it a noticeable and worthwhile upgrade?

Also, unrelated, what DH race series are in NM / CO / UT / ID other than GoRide? I used to race Mountain States Cup, but they have done away with that.


Ti springs definitely are not worth it. Minimal weight savings, and wear faster due to ti being more brittle than steel. Stendec actually makes steel springs lighter than most ti ones, or you could wait until the hollow fox one comes down the pipeline to us mere mortals.
Apr 12 2015 11:48PM
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XtRemE11
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anyone here ride rigid SS? I'm thinking of going that direction for my next bike. for some reason riding as hard and fast as possible over rough stuff with no suspension is super appealing to me.
Apr 13 2015 1:45AM
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*TURBONERD*
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I'm thinking about getting a second bike. In currently riding a mainly stock KHS Yuma, but I've thrown some Stan's on it and gone tubeless and Spank 777 handlebars. I'm looking for a freeride bike that will behave fairly similarly to my Yuma in terms of handling. Any recommendations?
Apr 13 2015 8:07AM
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dmski
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Carl_the_LlamaBike.


Kind of a project for me, recently got this frame and switched all my parts over. Now has small block eights. I'm not huge into biking, but looking to get more into it now that I have a bike I actually like...
Parts list. Any input on stuff to upgrade asap would be dope!
Frame: deity street sweeper
Headset: FSA
BB: Spanish; came with frame, probably needs replacing...
Stem: blkmrkt underboss
Bars: blkmrkt bada-bing
Grips: odi longnecks
Brake(s): Avid juicy 3
Fork: Marzocchi dj3
Wheels: not too sure... probably need replacing...
Tires: kenda sb8
Seat: blkmrkt knuckle-something-er-other...
Cranks: some sort of three piece bmx style cranks...
Yah.... It was a 2008 blkmrkt 357 that I bought used, gonna gradually get it custom and decent... Mostly stock at the moment... But it's getting there...


Nice bike. I'd honestly just start riding it and not worry about upgrading it. Sure, a bike could get better components but for a great platform and something that will give you hours of enjoyment I'd just ride it the way it is. I built up a similar bike but need new tread in a bad way. How do you like the small blocks? Great tire from what I've heard for urban/dj.
Apr 13 2015 10:34AM
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Carl_the_Llama
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dmskiNice bike. I'd honestly just start riding it and not worry about upgrading it. Sure, a bike could get better components but for a great platform and something that will give you hours of enjoyment I'd just ride it the way it is. I built up a similar bike but need new tread in a bad way. How do you like the small blocks? Great tire from what I've heard for urban/dj.


Thanks. Yah, I'm not too sure what my plan is... Probably gonna change parts that I have an issue with, and ride others till they break or something... I have been really enjoying it so far though.

Yah, so far the small blocks have been good. I've only had them for a week or so, so don't have a lot of time on them yet... But it sounded like a good all round sort of DJ/street tire from what I'd heard on pinkbike...

What bike do you have? Probably in here somewhere, but don't really want to search 25 pages...
Apr 13 2015 1:09PM
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dmski
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Carl_the_LlamaThanks. Yah, I'm not too sure what my plan is... Probably gonna change parts that I have an issue with, and ride others till they break or something... I have been really enjoying it so far though.

Yah, so far the small blocks have been good. I've only had them for a week or so, so don't have a lot of time on them yet... But it sounded like a good all round sort of DJ/street tire from what I'd heard on pinkbike...

What bike do you have? Probably in here somewhere, but don't really want to search 25 pages...


Cool! Between NS and pinkbike I could die happy. I've got two bikes I've built so I'll call them franken-bikes. One is a specialized big hit with a kona operator boxxer fork on the front and the other is a general issue frame with the most random assortment of used parts you will ever see. I need a rear tire for general issue as I only had an extra set of chunder tires (I think?) and I had to cut the knobs off the rear tire to make it clear the frame...

This is after I built the general issue so a few things have changed. I will eventually go single speed but I wanted to do the most budget build possible so I had a cog and derailur lying around from some other bike. Works pretty well actually for a dirt jump/trail bike.

Apr 13 2015 2:02PM
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Carl_the_Llama
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dmskiCool! Between NS and pinkbike I could die happy. I've got two bikes I've built so I'll call them franken-bikes. One is a specialized big hit with a kona operator boxxer fork on the front and the other is a general issue frame with the most random assortment of used parts you will ever see. I need a rear tire for general issue as I only had an extra set of chunder tires (I think?) and I had to cut the knobs off the rear tire to make it clear the frame...

This is after I built the general issue so a few things have changed. I will eventually go single speed but I wanted to do the most budget build possible so I had a cog and derailur lying around from some other bike. Works pretty well actually for a dirt jump/trail bike.


Haha for sure!
Nice! I think that would probably be the kind of bike setup I would want; DJ/street for messin around, and some sort of dh/xc/all mountain for trails and dh... Not sure how my DJ is gonna hold up at the bike park aha...
Apr 13 2015 2:39PM
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Mar-O
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Watching Chris Akrigg's videos always inspire me to try new stuff so now I'm really looking forward to riding tomorrow.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/766586/Chris-Akrigg-Bread-And-Butter
Apr 13 2015 4:49PM
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Carl_the_Llama
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Just had a super fun/enjoyable ride. I really like biking...
Apr 13 2015 8:39PM
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byubound
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Do any of you Washingtonian want to get a duthie dig day together? My friend is heading the rebuild on Gravy Train which is currently in shambles, and said that if we can get a few guys together he will pull out the bbq and drinks. Would be a good time.
Apr 13 2015 9:51PM
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NinetyFour
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Some of you guys might like this, GCN recently launched GMBN. Both are great channels that feature a lot of awesome content, this one is probably a personal fave:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/766673/How-To-Fix-A-Broken-Gear-Cable---Get-Home-When-Your-Cable-Snaps-On-A-Ride---Trailside-Maintenance
Apr 14 2015 12:02AM
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dmski
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byuboundDo any of you Washingtonian want to get a duthie dig day together? My friend is heading the rebuild on Gravy Train which is currently in shambles, and said that if we can get a few guys together he will pull out the bbq and drinks. Would be a good time.

I'd be interested. I try to help out at Collonade since that place is always a wreck. Its closesness to seattle makes it appealing. Duthie is by far the best option for gravity related stuff so i love it there as well. Depends on the weekend but I could pull together my brothers and a few friends if you get this going.
Apr 14 2015 10:18AM
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NinetyFour
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So my pictures are going to be all messed up because I uploaded from my iPad... Anyways here's the pre and post tubeless conversion weights for my Farley, and a picture of my ultra sketchy hanging method; the bike was entirely hanging off the scale though for each weigh in though. I re-weighed the bike without any accessories as I had earlier in the thread, so it was just the complete bike with Shimano M-780 pedals, and for the tubeless there is 5oz. of sealant in each tire. My scale is also a fish scale and won't give me decimal pound weights either, only ounces and fractional measurements but I'll include the rounded up decimal weights.

Pre (31.22lbs):


Post (28.93lbs):


The sketchy setup.


The difference is a whopping 2.29lbs. That's a lot of weight saved should they hold air good. The only thing that kind of sucked was the 75MM wide tape that came with the Orange Seal kit didn't work out in the tire, just because of how the Jackalopes hoops are made. Luckily I had some normal rim tape, and it covered the spoke bed holes perfectly. The wide tape would be pointless in these rims anyways.
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division.bell
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NinetyFourSo my pictures are going to be all messed up because I uploaded from my iPad... Anyways here's the pre and post tubeless conversion weights for my Farley, and a picture of my ultra sketchy hanging method; the bike was entirely hanging off the scale though for each weigh in though. I re-weighed the bike without any accessories as I had earlier in the thread, so it was just the complete bike with Shimano M-780 pedals, and for the tubeless there is 5oz. of sealant in each tire. My scale is also a fish scale and won't give me decimal pound weights either, only ounces and fractional measurements but I'll include the rounded up decimal weights.

Pre (31.22lbs):


Post (28.93lbs):


The sketchy setup.


The difference is a whopping 2.29lbs. That's a lot of weight saved should they hold air good. The only thing that kind of sucked was the 75MM wide tape that came with the Orange Seal kit didn't work out in the tire, just because of how the Jackalopes hoops are made. Luckily I had some normal rim tape, and it covered the spoke bed holes perfectly. The wide tape would be pointless in these rims anyways.


That is a very impressive weight reduction!

5oz? Is that the recommended amount for your 3.8" tires? I'm planning on 8oz for each 4.6" tire for starters.
Apr 18 2015 1:05AM
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NinetyFour
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division.bellThat is a very impressive weight reduction!

5oz? Is that the recommended amount for your 3.8" tires? I'm planning on 8oz for each 4.6" tire for starters.


Being completely honest I'm clueless as to how much sealant I should run in each tire. Bontrager doesn't have any suggestions with their product info and everyone else has just done their own thing. I've heard of people using a stupidly minimal 2oz. while some others have been using up to 8oz. Orange Seal's kit for fatbikes suggested 4oz. per tire. Based on all of that I kind of split on the high side of the middle and went for 5oz per tire.

This is how the Jackalope rim is though:



I guess it would take less to seal up a rim like that, compared to one with cutouts and a rim strip. I think the only other wheels with a solid construction like that are Whiskey's No.9 and HED's Big Deal?

Really I guess I'll find out with time. As of right now it sounds like an absolute waterfall when I give the tire a slow spin. I'm going to put in an XC ride tomorrow that's mostly long bumpy fireroad climbing, so we'll see how it sounds after that.
Apr 18 2015 1:36AM
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