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Gypsy_Skier
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This comp season has been a crazy one, what with triples getting thrown in to the mix, the Olympics and double backies galore... but i have to say the biggest names i've heard out there have been mostly Jesper's, Oscar Wester's and V-Cash having a great season winning all these euro-comps.

Now just a couple years ago, jesper was just the crazy wiz kid throwing sw early nose dub frontflips, and Jacob, not Oscar (Charles is a little further back). I love that these guys are making a name for themselves, and it's so sick to see. But what happen to all the other riders who used to slay JOI?

I just feel like the game changed overnight. It used to be all about superman double frontflips and who had the best looking dub 10. And now with these new tricks comes a new breed of skiers i guess. Now don't get me wrong, i know everyone is still out there slaying it, but i find myself looking at the FIS rankings and wondering who half those people are... I guess i know who skiers are through edits and movies, and less through comps. That said, i have yet to see Fabian Boesch or Oscar Wester in a random sick edit or any big jib flicks out there.

Not really a rant, just wanted to know if anyone else misses the good old, second gen ski days...
Jun 2 2014 5:42PM
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eheath
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Gypsy_SkierI just feel like the game changed overnight. It used to be all about superman double frontflips and who had the best looking dub 10. And now with these new tricks comes a new breed of skiers i guess.



I mean, that was a good 6 years ago my dude haha
Jun 2 2014 5:47PM
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S.J.W
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I think it is more coming down to rail tricks now. Are you spinning on, spinning off? Pretzaling? Execution? We saw this with Gus at Winter X this year. HE threw a trip rodeo 14 and didn't even get on the podium.

But apart from X games, I highly doubt someone will throw a triple during dew tour or TNF park n pipe series etc.
Jun 2 2014 5:59PM
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Gypsy_Skier
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pussyfooterI mean, that was a good 6 years ago my dude haha


Ahah i know, thats why i said second gen. I mean i haven't been around for that long, but i got into the scene around T-wall's superunknown edit, just like a lot of NSers i think. I'm sure it was a whole different ball game back in the 20th century (fun to say). But when i got into it, it's still looked super fun, pro level seemed a lot more do able, it was a little more motivating i guess, if that makes sense? I'm not saying i'm skiing to go pro, but it's fun to imagine yourself catching up to the people you look up to. A little out of reach now i guess...
Jun 2 2014 6:43PM
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j_romero
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The scene had changed a shit ton my friend and I'm not stoked about it, back in the day, the fucks skiers gave were so minimal. Dressing like skittles, afterbanging the fuck out of everything, hitting gaps over half pipes, and doing the most stylish tricks over the biggest shit you could imagine, man I miss those days. And without a doubt, we're all pussies compared to how big candide, crichton, and tanner went back in the day. Looking back a decade ago and seeing old poorboyz movies when ski resorts gave no fucks about liability and people suing them over the most fucked features that they built, I froth over the thought of traveling back to those times when it was all about doing what was thought to be some Jackass Canadian fuckery.
Jun 2 2014 8:10PM
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TheGreenBastard
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Don't worry, parents will shut down the fun, soon enough.
Jun 3 2014 5:31AM
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Ali_Dibden
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raymeraThe scene had changed a shit ton my friend and I'm not stoked about it, back in the day, the fucks skiers gave were so minimal. Dressing like skittles, afterbanging the fuck out of everything, hitting gaps over half pipes, and doing the most stylish tricks over the biggest shit you could imagine, man I miss those days. And without a doubt, we're all pussies compared to how big candide, crichton, and tanner went back in the day. Looking back a decade ago and seeing old poorboyz movies when ski resorts gave no fucks about liability and people suing them over the most fucked features that they built, I froth over the thought of traveling back to those times when it was all about doing what was thought to be some Jackass Canadian fuckery.


Yeah features have slowly become less awesome in my opinion, the mountains used to build the craziest shit!
Jun 3 2014 7:16AM
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georgen12
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Mountains and comps need to bring stuff like this back. Just for the shear spectacle of it. The closest feature that was close to this awesome was that half pipe jump in Sunny in my opinion
Jun 3 2014 8:16AM
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tomPietrowski
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Gypsy_SkierAhah i know, thats why i said second gen. I mean i haven't been around for that long, but i got into the scene around T-wall's superunknown edit, just like a lot of NSers i think. I'm sure it was a whole different ball game back in the 20th century (fun to say). But when i got into it, it's still looked super fun, pro level seemed a lot more do able, it was a little more motivating i guess, if that makes sense? I'm not saying i'm skiing to go pro, but it's fun to imagine yourself catching up to the people you look up to. A little out of reach now i guess...

The difference is actually probably with you. When you start out you will try anything you have less fear. Generally you progress quicker and you have the opinion that you could actually be at that pro level. Then your progression begins to tail off just as the newer skiers pop up with the newest tricks.

When I started skiin park 2 on 2 off was pretty high standard so we all aspired to it. Now everyone can do it. What you think has progressed like the crazy the younger kids will see as normal. So triples to me and you may be crazy but te kids of today may look at it like a 2 on 2 off as crazy as it sounds. Perceptions of what is hard change and it's for this reason progression continues.
Jun 3 2014 8:29AM
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SkiTheEast69
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Now I feel like it's just spin to win, bring back the "gangsta after bang don't give any fucks" style.
Jun 3 2014 8:30AM
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tomPietrowski
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SkiTheEast69Now I feel like it's just spin to win, bring back the "gangsta after bang don't give any fucks" style.


It has always really been spin to win. Look at the early days of x. 7's would beat out 5's even if the 7 was a little more hucked. People want to see the biggest tricks and you may complain that you prefer style but without the top guys throwing big spins you would not have the same level of comps we do today.
Jun 3 2014 8:46AM
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belden...
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Gypsy_SkierBut when i got into it, it's still looked super fun, pro level seemed a lot more do able, it was a little more motivating i guess, if that makes sense? I'm not saying i'm skiing to go pro, but it's fun to imagine yourself catching up to the people you look up to. A little out of reach now i guess...


This is a great way to explain/ describe it because with all these new (soon to be competition regular) tricks that aren't doable off a regular park jump it's going to make "going pro" a lot more difficult to achieve I think.
Jun 3 2014 9:34AM
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TURRIINI
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I dont think the bird ever left
Jun 3 2014 10:46AM
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FrenchFry
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I for sure miss the days when i was like 12 and 13 and i would come home and watch some of the older pbp movies. The first one the really got me into skiing was Yeah Dude! It was amazing and i still watch it today. There are so many no name kids busting out the biggest tricks now a days it's changing everything. it's always hard to cope with change and especially one this drastic. The culture of skiing is changing along with the skill level. More sponsors and shit and definitely change the way people will look at the sport.Young little skiers will be gunning for making millions like the Olympians and getting the biggest sponsors. Ski bumming wont be nearly as glamorous or something people will want. I mean of course a few rare kids will see what it's really about but not to many of them. Guys like Charlie Ager will be out of work,and any other og pow skier that supportd himself year round. Nobody will be wanting to film that. What film companys will wanting to film guys like Goepper and film hsi training and his super competitive personality. Just my opinion.
Jun 3 2014 11:54AM
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cwillygood
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You know skiing has changed when half the kids at your home mountain who ski park have never heard My Friends A Pro
Jun 3 2014 2:53PM
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