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Bindings that can turn into touring bindings?

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natethegreatt
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I was reading up on some bindings, I think they were either STH2 or FKS or Attack, that can turn into touring bindings.

Am I crazy or do these exist? If so which bindings do this?

Thanks all
May 22 2014 3:02AM
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-SnowSnoli-
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You have a few options for a "binding turning into a touring binding"

1. CAST... A metal plate designed to go under your bindings, and the toe piece you can swap out for dynafit when touring.. This is the best option as its designed by Freeride world tour athletes. but is also very expensive.

2. MFD touring plate. lets you use normal bindings. but its on the heavy side and not the best IMO.

After you have the real alpine touring bindings designed for more down than up. But unless you are planning on lots of long hikes they more than suffice.

1. Salomon Guardian.. Lowest tourer on the market, mostly metal and nicest feeling.

2. Marker Duke. Been on the market along time with lots of improvements made. I have owned my dukes for 3 years and they are still going strong.

3. Tyrolia AAAdrenaline. Tyrolias binding came out last year. I think its the lightest? but also mostly made out of plastic and has alot of play in the heel.


These 3 bindings can all be found using other brands names aswell but its the same binding. Salomon(Atomic, Look) Tyrolia (fisher,amplid,4frnt)
May 22 2014 3:36AM
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natethegreatt
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Thank you. So there isnt "one binding" that I can use as normal, for park and all mountain, and then do something to it without remounting to turn it into a touring binding?
May 22 2014 11:09AM
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b-kul
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id take a cast binding to the park but not a touring binding. is there is no park or trick coming into play, just general inbounds skiing a touring binding would be ok.
May 22 2014 11:42AM
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Pipe_Munky
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You can try getting a set of BCA Trekkers
May 22 2014 11:43AM
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nutz.
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natethegreattThank you. So there isnt "one binding" that I can use as normal, for park and all mountain, and then do something to it without remounting to turn it into a touring binding?


MFD alltime plates?
May 22 2014 12:02PM
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natethegreatt
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nutz.MFD alltime plates?


Looked these up...I think these are what I'm looking for...anything else like this?
May 22 2014 12:08PM
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.nasty
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nutz.MFD alltime plates?


they're out of business. which is fine because their product was heavy as hell and pretty impractical (even with the ability to use your alpine bindings, still heavy AF).

OP, as suggested above you can try BCA alpine trekkers. They're great if you're not doing long tours and just exploring a bit to get used to the BC, although they tend to get the nickname "day wreckers" as they can break sort of easily sometimes.

The CAST system also mentioned above is a great invention which cuts the weight compared to the MFD, although I have yet to have any personal experience with them.
May 22 2014 12:14PM
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Errl
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What do you guys know/think about Plum bindings? I'm looking to a get touring a setup and found a decent deal on a pair.
May 22 2014 1:00PM
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.nasty
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ErrlWhat do you guys know/think about Plum bindings? I'm looking to a get touring a setup and found a decent deal on a pair.


They're good for a light touring setup but I don't think they quite qualify for what this thread was asking about. I wouldn't trust them for hard charging big mtn skiing, that's just me though
May 22 2014 1:38PM
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RubberSoul
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natethegreattThank you. So there isnt "one binding" that I can use as normal, for park and all mountain, and then do something to it without remounting to turn it into a touring binding?


that's what he meant when he listed the duke, guardian, and adrenalines. theyre burly (enough) regular style bindings with a setting that lets them go into touring mode, and they work with regular downhill boots

the obvious downside is that they are heavier, and also have higher stack height
May 22 2014 2:34PM
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Iliveinutah
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they are called touring bindings ... give it a google. 1 vote for atomic trackers
May 22 2014 10:38PM
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Ghini
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ErrlWhat do you guys know/think about Plum bindings? I'm looking to a get touring a setup and found a decent deal on a pair.


Get them, as long as they have the black arms, I trust them.

.nylesThey're good for a light touring setup but I don't think they quite qualify for what this thread was asking about. I wouldn't trust them for hard charging big mtn skiing, that's just me though


I charge the shit out of them without locking the toes. Hardpack, heavy tracked and offcourse powder, never had problems or pre-releases. Bombproof bindings.

OP, get BCA trekkers!
May 23 2014 4:24AM
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natethegreatt
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CamembertGet them, as long as they have the black arms, I trust them.



I charge the shit out of them without locking the toes. Hardpack, heavy tracked and offcourse powder, never had problems or pre-releases. Bombproof bindings.

OP, get BCA trekkers!


So, just to clarify, BCA trekkers can do both downhill and touring? Are they heavier than normal bindings? For example, heavier than STH2 13s or FKS 140s?
May 23 2014 4:35AM
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natethegreatt
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natethegreattSo, just to clarify, BCA trekkers can do both downhill and touring? Are they heavier than normal bindings? For example, heavier than STH2 13s or FKS 140s?


Nevermind just looked it up.
May 23 2014 4:41AM
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-SnowSnoli-
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How much touring and how much park etc are you planning on doing?


I have a friend who has a one ski quiver with Dukes on and he shreds the park with them and has done for 2 years with no problems.

But he only spends probably 20% of the time in the park.

If you are planning only a couple sure get trekkers. I did when i first started out. But after 2 times I realised they just lack edge grip due to movement, and just no where near as good as a real touring binding.

Another option.

Get some touring bindings like duke/guardian/aaadrenaline put them on intended ski. Then pick up a pair of couple of season old park skis for cheap. Then you are sorted.
May 23 2014 5:57AM
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natethegreatt
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-SnowSnoli-How much touring and how much park etc are you planning on doing?


I have a friend who has a one ski quiver with Dukes on and he shreds the park with them and has done for 2 years with no problems.

But he only spends probably 20% of the time in the park.

If you are planning only a couple sure get trekkers. I did when i first started out. But after 2 times I realised they just lack edge grip due to movement, and just no where near as good as a real touring binding.

Another option.

Get some touring bindings like duke/guardian/aaadrenaline put them on intended ski. Then pick up a pair of couple of season old park skis for cheap. Then you are sorted.


Wouldnt I take the trekkers off for the descent? Do you mean edge grip while ascending?
May 23 2014 8:22AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Trekkers biggest downside is the stack height and what it does to any side hilling. It's unpleasant on traverses, especially on anything steep. Probably still the best option for op because it's low investment compared to a duke or dedicated touring setup.
May 23 2014 9:42AM
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-SnowSnoli-
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natethegreattWouldnt I take the trekkers off for the descent? Do you mean edge grip while ascending?


ascending.. when cutting across steeper pitches. short hikes its ok.. but if you plan longer it sucks.
May 23 2014 9:54AM
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natethegreatt
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-SnowSnoli-ascending.. when cutting across steeper pitches. short hikes its ok.. but if you plan longer it sucks.


I see what you're saying now. So, on a scale of 1-10, 1 being "this is a bit annoying" to 10 being "wow this is nearly impossible," where would the longer hike experience be?
May 23 2014 10:13AM
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-SnowSnoli-
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personally a 3, like its fully doable. Just takes alot more effort than a normal touring binding. I found when touring with friends with real set ups I was so much more tired than they were and definitely struggled a lot more. But they do the job.
May 23 2014 11:01AM
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natethegreatt
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Thanks for all the input NSers
May 23 2014 12:09PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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CamembertGet them, as long as they have the black arms, I trust them.



I charge the shit out of them without locking the toes. Hardpack, heavy tracked and offcourse powder, never had problems or pre-releases. Bombproof bindings.

OP, get BCA trekkers!


Bought some without the black arms last year, first gen. Havent skied em but I am somewhat nervous
May 23 2014 3:32PM
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