1500 Year old Bible confirms Jesus was not crucified.

mustardYeah, but this really wont change peoples beliefs.
Just like a while ago, when some artifact was discovered, carbon dated, and verified by experts, that said that Jesus was a fraud (Or something along those lines, I cant remember exactly).

saskskierThat story is 2 years old.

chickenwell jesus wasn't the son of some all powerful god. he obviously didn't die and then come back from the dead and then fly into heaven later on.

so why does it really matter?

joshuaConsidering most New Testament scholars agree that Jesus Christ existed and was crucified, (based on accounts written much closer to the actual events of Jesus' life), I doubt anything revolutionary will come out of this. It seems that these documents just don't compare to sources we already have about Jesus.

joshuaSo I gather that this is a version of the Gospel of Barnabas?

Apparently, we have two other manuscripts of this gospel, both dated to the late 16th century, and so the credibility of them is dubious. Most scholars consider it be pseudepigraphical.

Considering most New Testament scholars agree that Jesus Christ existed and was crucified, (based on accounts written much closer to the actual events of Jesus' life), I doubt anything revolutionary will come out of this. It seems that these documents just don't compare to sources we already have about Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas#Earlier_occurrences_of_a_Gospel_of_Barnabas

theBearJewJesus was never mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls

mustard(Or something along those lines, I cant remember exactly).

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You can't be dense enough to find an artifact, having no idea who wrote it and then all of a sudden just take it as a fact. It comes down to the fact that its the word of that unknown document vs. the word of the Bible which is a very widely accepted document.

mustardhttp://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm

It has also been cited by many other sources.

chickenwell jesus wasn't the son of some all powerful god. he obviously didn't die and then come back from the dead and then fly into heaven later on.

so why does it really matter?

joshuaSo I gather that this is a version of the Gospel of Barnabas?

Apparently, we have two other manuscripts of this gospel, both dated to the late 16th century, and so the credibility of them is dubious. Most scholars consider it be pseudepigraphical.

Considering most New Testament scholars agree that Jesus Christ existed and was crucified, (based on accounts written much closer to the actual events of Jesus' life), I doubt anything revolutionary will come out of this. It seems that these documents just don't compare to sources we already have about Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas#Earlier_occurrences_of_a_Gospel_of_Barnabas

zzzskizzzThere is no tangible proof that Jesus ever existed, it's all hear say. Same goes for God, the argument is pointless because you can't prove or disprove him.

zzzskizzzThere is no tangible proof that Jesus ever existed, it's all hear say. Same goes for God, the argument is pointless because you can't prove or disprove him.

zzzskizzzThere is no tangible proof that Jesus ever existed, it's all hear say. Same goes for God, the argument is pointless because you can't prove or disprove him.

zzzskizzzThere is no tangible proof that Jesus ever existed, it's all hear say. Same goes for God, the argument is pointless because you can't prove or disprove him.

zzzskizzzThere is no tangible proof that Jesus ever existed, it's all hear say. Same goes for God, the argument is pointless because you can't prove or disprove him.

stickskiI'm sorry, that's just factually incorrect. There is considerable evidence for the historical Jesus. His existence is the scholarly consensus.

Mr.HuckOne day someone will find a notebook. Scribbled in the back will be a detailed description of how skiierman persecuted the poor defenseless n00bians, and how the great Mods of NS banned him to the underworld, bringing peace and prosperity back to kingdom of New Schoolers.

They will report that the people of New Schoolers worshiped the prophet Wallisch who performed various miracles on his journey, but ultimately flew to heaven.

They will be certain that Wallischism was the dominant religion in our world, and that Wallischites honored him through the practice of drinking Monster and through the breaking of pretzels.

Mr.HuckOne day

theabortionatorIf you drop a box millions of times you will never get them to fall like this

The only reasonable conclusion left to draw is that jesus is real and anyone who doesn't believe is going to hell.

PM me if you want me to pray with you.

louie.miragsIf Jesus could make bread appear, there's some parts of the world that could really use him right now. Why is he being such a dickkkkk?

theabortionatorJesus is like the pro football player that goes to help the kids or volunteer at the food bank for a 10 min when all the cameras are there to help their image and "give back" aka get the footy for good PR.

Jesus did some cool things so they'd get put in a book and remembered after he died but he never felt the need to do more. I mean he's already a famous character in the book, why take time out of his day to help the poor now? He's much too busy helping people win at the Oscars to worry about some kids in poverty.

If anything good happens in your life "Thank you Jesus for answering my prayers". If anything bad happens in your life "He heard my prayers but it wasn't in his will. Thank you Jesus anyway though."

I wish that kind of bullshit worked in everything in life. IF I'm supposed to help somebody work on there house, even if I sleep in and never make it over they still thank me for nothing. It's brilliant. If I come in to work with the plague and get your whole family sick, thank me, and thank me double once you get better.

I love it

theabortionatorJesus is like the pro football player that goes to help the kids or volunteer at the food bank for a 10 min when all the cameras are there to help their image and "give back" aka get the footy for good PR.

zzzskizzzThere is no tangible proof that Jesus ever existed, it's all hear say. Same goes for God, the argument is pointless because you can't prove or disprove him.

the_trapThere weren't cameras back then. People loved Jesus and people hated him. So your analogy is off, if it was just a publicity stunt he would've done something that made everyone like him.

But whatever floats your boat and makes you feel good about the life you have I guess. Just remember to keep your mind and ears open, and try to remember that you are not the absolute truth in the world.


And you contradict yourself, you say that everything Jesus did was for publicity, and then you say that Jesus could've never done all that and that he might've not even existed. Get your made up story straight

the_trapThere weren't cameras back then. People loved Jesus and people hated him. So your analogy is off, if it was just a publicity stunt he would've done something that made everyone like him.

But whatever floats your boat and makes you feel good about the life you have I guess. Just remember to keep your mind and ears open, and try to remember that you are not the absolute truth in the world.


And you contradict yourself, you say that everything Jesus did was for publicity, and then you say that Jesus could've never done all that and that he might've not even existed. Get your made up story straight

theabortionatorAnd speaking of floating boats, the whole noah thing is a fucking riot.

theabortionatorspeaking of floating boats, the whole noah thing is a fucking riot.

Illuminatiin agreement with stickski, there is plenty of proof Jesus existed. Him being the Son of God is what's hear-say. in the scholarly community, there's an almost universal agreement that Jesus existed as a human and was crucified by Pontius Pilate and was baptized by a man named John the Baptist

LE.SkiingI think the story of noah and his arc could be true. there could have been a flood that wiped out an area and he may have built a boat. The whole 2 of every animal may have just been like 2 of every animal known in that era/area. Going back there were species that spawned other subspecies so it could be true but not to the scale that we may think. I think there could have been a guy named noah and he may have built a boat and brought aboard maybe a few different species of animals like dog cat camel ect. a lot of the bibles stories I feel have been embellished a little bit.

another example of some other things that could have happened that we might be taking to literal are all the sighting of angels could have been hallucinations. If you think about it they could very well have been eating like moldy food not knowing it was bad for them and some types of molds can cause hallucinations.

also on another note... This http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/israeli-archeologist-uncovers-proof-judas-smoked-marijuana/

louie.miragsI really could of swore NS used to be more open minded.. maybe those types are smart enough to avoid this thread