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ON3P Skis?

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Cspliffff
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So I am thinking about buying myself a new pair of skis for next season. After a while of looking around I decided to check out 0N3P and the jeronimo's caught my eye. Basically i just wanna know if there worth the money and how the hold up etc.

My last pair of ski's where the Line Chronics. How much better is ON3P?
Mar 13 2014 12:49AM
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Kreech
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They are absolutely worth the money in every way. Think about it this way: you're paying slightly more up front for a ski that is as durable as they come and will last you twice as long as a pair of shitty lines from some chinese sweatshop. I have a lot of days on my filthies, and I only have 2 edge cracks right now. At this time last year, my pipe cleaners, which I also bought brand new, had almost 10. In the long run you're actually paying less because you'll get so much more time out of them. Not to mention they ski better than anything else out there right now... elliptical rocker and elliptical sidecut combined on a medium-stiff flex=the most playful, easy-to-butter ski you could ever dream of, yet one that is stable at any speed your unworthy ass will ever be traveling. Don't think. Just buy.
Mar 13 2014 1:28AM
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Ali_Dibden
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Agreed here ^ , I ride the filthies too and that was the best decision i could have made in skiing. Go buy them!
Mar 13 2014 4:45AM
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tomPietrowski
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I just got some jmo's and they are fun. The skis run long I got the 186 and they are 190. They are soft though, much softer then I expected. I thought they were mid stiff but they are soft, the tail especially could be stiffened up. They have a lot of rocker but still carve ok. The sidecut works well you can do short to quite long turns fairly easy.

Build wise these things are burly. They have a ton of cyber and the core I thick. They are not heavy though. The bases are thick and seem hard but they are not super fast. Edge wise they seem on par with most. Mine are cracked but you will expect that wit any park ski.

Overall they are fun. Honestly I don't think I would pay more for them over an atomic or salomon for example but if you want a fairly rare ski built by someone who loves skiing go for them.
Mar 13 2014 6:29AM
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Cotter
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They are 100% worth the money. I got about 50 days on my chronics before the delamed amd they had about 5 or so edge cracks total. Im getting near 50 days on my filthies and they are still going strong (and I've beaten them to shit) some minore topsheet chipping and a mere 3 edge cracks. I would strongly recommend getting some. The are replacing the jmo next year with the kartel 98 and 106 (?) So you can get a more park specific or all mountain specific ski. Either way they would both be insanely fun.
Mar 13 2014 7:59AM
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Session
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How are you measuring?
Mar 13 2014 10:14AM
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raymondcabral
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I've never heard anything bad about the FR's. Built awesomly, and ride like no other
Mar 13 2014 10:30AM
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tomPietrowski
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Against other skis I have in the shop. They come up much bigger then any 185-186 ski I have here. Also I have a 185 bag and they stick well out the end.
Mar 13 2014 10:32AM
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Session
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The all your other shit measures short. ON3P measures true when you do a straight pull tip to tail.

It's really ruined other ski's for me, one of the reasons that I'm probably going back to a full ON3P quiver.
Mar 13 2014 11:45AM
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tomPietrowski
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Well that may be true but for most customers it will be easier to say on3p run long. If they compare a 185 in the shop it's easiest to just say on3p will be on average 5 bigger.
Mar 13 2014 11:47AM
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derivative666
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I have had my JMO's 186 for less than a week and so far they are fantastic. So far have ridden them on boilerplate (not so much fun), groomers (they are killer) and mashed potatoes (most fun ski I have ever ridden). You have to push them real hard to get any chatter. They are responsive edge to edge and forgiving in the park. So far I am thrilled I purchased a pair of ON3P's
Mar 13 2014 1:00PM
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Shifties4Dayz
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I rode jmos for 3 seasons. Hands down the best ski I've ever ridden. It was great from park to all mountain and was even fun in powder, the crush n rip through hardpack and crud. If they weren't so expensive I would never buy another ski. I did have problems with durability, my first pair the rubber side wall tore out about 2 feet then I snapped the ski at the tip. My second pair my heel piece tore out and the ski delammed all the way to the tail. Their customer service is really good even though my skis couldn't be warrantied
Mar 13 2014 5:08PM
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crawley
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so you measured by not using a measuring tape? Nice work
Mar 13 2014 9:32PM
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MartianMan
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I would pay more for ON3P than salomon. Most of Salomon's skis are capped, and ON3P just in uses generally better quality materials. IMO, salmon's skis have always been on extremely point when it comes to performance, but they could use some work durability wise.
Mar 14 2014 12:02AM
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EvanMeyer
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Buy them for sure! I love my filthy's and have been beating them like hell for 2 seasons and they barely even show it such a durable ski its incredible. I would love to ride some of their other models. But the filthy is a great all around ski, I rode them at Snowbird in like a foot of fresh pow and on hard ass choppy days, they hold up better than you'd think at a place like that for being a park ski.
Mar 14 2014 2:10AM
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TimRiley
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You are wrong. They measure true, not long. They are a medium stiff ski, not soft.
Mar 14 2014 9:16AM
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tomPietrowski
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We'll that is what I was hoping to help people with here. It hard getting advice on on3p as there are not many around. I trie getting advice here but again struggled.

In regards to length they may well measure true but if you have to compare skis to skis from other brands they run longer. Now it may be other brands run gory but it is easiest to say on3p run long. Scott confirmed this with me before the sale so I new this I just wanted others here to be aware.

Flex wise I am disappointed. They are not mid stiff, not the pair I have anyway. They are really soft in the nose and soft on the tail. It's not a bad thing it's just not what I wanted. I wanted a ski I could charge and the jmo is just a bit soft for me.

I really just wanted to give some advice to others like me who have to buy blind. They are great skis but it's hard to get a true idea of why you are getting. It's why I never buy before demoing but I just did not get chance to try any. Scott is great an I'm very thankful for him hooking me up and I may well buy a pow ski from them in the futre. But I am still happy with skis from other brands and actually prefer a few construction techniques on3p do not yet utilise.
Mar 15 2014 5:21AM
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Muggydude
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If find that odd, considering there are a ton of people on this forum with on3ps who are willing to give advice and reviews.

And as a jmo owner, the skis (that I own) are definitely mid stiff. I ordered them short at 176, as they double as my all mountain and park skis. Even so- they have absolutely no problem bombing down the hill at 70mph and charging hard here in co- there's no way you could do that here with "soft" skis. I would have been in trouble more than once if I was skiing on soft skis.

And considering that skis like line measure short, while others like k2 measure longer than they say, I would say they measure accurately.
Mar 15 2014 1:53PM
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derivative666
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I just picked up a pair of Jmo's 186. I have been on them 7 days now in the east coast. They have seen crud, boilerplate and mashed potatoes. I definitely find them to be more on the med/stiff side which is what I was looking for. This is a bomber ski. I am very pleased with them. They are very solid all mountain and just forgiving enough in the park. I haven't been back on my Volkl's since getting these.
Mar 15 2014 2:11PM
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tomPietrowski
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Well I don't know what to tell you about the flex. They are an ex demo pair so maybe they have just been ridden really hard. I'm maybe much bigger then you too. I'm 5'11 175lbs and 30 years old so strong. Maybe I'm just overpowering the ski more, I am in a 130 flex boot so I'm driving the ski hard. It's not a bad thing really as I said before it's just not what I wanted.

And as for help I really struggled. I was told they were pretty much like any all mnt ski which was not helpful. I really looked for any info I could find and I knew about the length as Scott had said to expect them to be around 190 but it was more the flex which disappointed me. Maybe what I call mid stiff is stiffer then what most here call stiff.
Mar 15 2014 3:43PM
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Muggydude
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Maybe, it's certainly possible your pair are a little softer after a lot of use. I am 185 lbs myself- I'm a running back and linebacker, I squat 430- I am a very aggressive skier. I don't overpower these skis- I have skied softer skis than this and I know I need a stiffer ski. But like I said its possible you have a soft pair.

But all you have to do is search this forum to find a ton of info on how the jmo skis- I researched them a lot before buying, and found they are everything I'd read they were.
Mar 15 2014 9:50PM
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Kimmler
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clearly some essential information right there.
Mar 16 2014 1:26AM
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Ducky.
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Mar 16 2014 3:01AM
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Session
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I feel like you were looking for something more along the lines of a Vicik, or Tychoon.
Mar 16 2014 1:09PM
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tomPietrowski
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Yeah maybe. I was looking for an all mnt ski that I could rip around the whole mountain. I wanted somthing pretty stiff ie stiffer then my suspects. Scott had sujjested the jmo or Jeffery and maybe I should have gone Jeffery. But that is my point it's pretty hard to get good advice on them here. I would have loved some good info into what I was getting but all I got was the usual yeah best skis ever which really does not help.
Mar 16 2014 1:23PM
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Bagina
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Who the fuck do you think you are with your picture?
Mar 16 2014 1:42PM
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tomPietrowski
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Who? Me or session? I work as a bootfitter to some of the big teams, hence my photo. Session I can only guess he has a nice ass and likes to show it off.
Mar 16 2014 2:01PM
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dingus
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Everyone on NS will say to get on3ps, but thats because there such good skis, I would get em
Mar 16 2014 2:12PM
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Bagina
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No, OP stole my picture.
Mar 16 2014 2:13PM
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tomPietrowski
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Oh yeah I did not realise you were not the op
Mar 16 2014 2:29PM
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derivative666
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I have been on my Jeronimo's non stop since I got them 2 weeks ago. My conclusion is this I have never had more fun on a ski before. It has been on everything from boiler plate to mashed potatoes and everywhere from the park to the glades. I am so pleased with them that I will be selling my Volkl's and going with a ON3P quiver for next season. I will be picking up Prester 181's and Wrenegade 102 186's. Aside from being so pleased with the skis. The guys over at ON3P couldn't be nicer. They answered all my questions, were super helpful and got me my JMO's next day. Without sounding like a fanboy I would highly recommend trying these out on a demo day. You won't be disappointed. Their is a reason ON3P is getting a lot of hype.
Mar 21 2014 10:01AM
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Dustin.
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The J-mo is a medium stiff ski for sure. But it's a perfect bridge between a park ski and an all mountain ski, so if you charge on it like an animal you certainly will notice it flexes more than their strictly all mountain designs. Mounted closer to center, smaller ski, with rocker = it will definitely flex when you charge. I'm larger than you and I notice the same thing (I have 186 Jeffreys for that reason), however my expectation seems much different than yours as I bought it as my go to ski since I rode 50/50 park and all mountain at the time. I absolutely love the J-mo, but if you don't favor a more park oriented design (like the J-mo and Jeffrey obviously do) then there are different options that likely are much better for your style.

As for how the skis measure, they do measure long relative to other brands because ON3P measures true length tip to tail while most brands measure the ski before pressing them. 5 long is a pretty aggressive recommendation however, as it may only be nearly accurate for the longest models.

I personally love Atomic and Armada as well, but I always seem to end up with ON3P filling out my quiver due to the success I've had in the past with them.
Mar 21 2014 8:46PM
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tomPietrowski
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Nice to know someone else find the same as me. Yes I'm charging and really folding them. I wanted a ski I could ski fast all round the mnt and hit natural features. To be honest park was not really a concern as I have park skis. I just hoped for a ski stiffer then my park ski. Guess I should have done more research into if the skis would suit me or not.

I do still like them though they ski really well just not how I wanted but I'm heading off to France now and the snow is coming so hopefully I will like them even more in soft snow rather then te usual ice we have in the uk.
Mar 22 2014 3:00AM
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derivative666
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I am not sure but, I beleive if you are looking for a hard charger for all mountain the Wrenegade is what you would be after. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Mar 22 2014 6:18AM
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Dustin.
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That's what they design the Wren for. I've never had the pleasure of trying a Vicik but that also seems quite capable in that arena.
Mar 22 2014 1:23PM
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Dustin.
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Ya it sounds like a Vicik might have been more up your alley but I really don't know and I haven't ridden that ski. You also could have asked for more carbon stringers in your layup and had a David Steele strength J-mo that probably would have been perfect for your needs.

I'm going to be living in Germany soon, by next week in fact. Maybe I'll see you on one of your trips from the UK and you can try out my Jeffreys one day haha.
Mar 22 2014 1:26PM
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