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Pivot 18 vs. STH 16 steel vs. STH2 16

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Gorilla.Steeze
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I'm in the market for a binding and need a high din (I keep it between 12-13) and something that is durable (I've broken 3 previous pairs of bindings). I would have otherwise just purchased the Pivot 18s, if it wasn't for a recent incident regarding a cracked toe piece on my FKS 180s. I've found the Pivots and the STH steel in the $310 range and the STH2 around $240. All things considered, is it worth forking out an extra $70 for the all steel bindings or is the STH2 just as durable? Any other recs?


Mar 4 2014 2:18PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Don't overlook the MOJO15/18 from Tyrolia.  Bomber metal construction, and priced very well.

I'm a Salomon guy though.  Mostly 916s with a few pairs of STH16s in the mix.  A couple pairs of STH16 STEELS in boxes as well.  I can't comment on the STH2 16.
The big thing I like about the 916/STEEL over the STH16 is the the toe.  The STH has a composite toe and single wing adjustment, and I've heard of those screws stripping out.  The 916/STEEL have dual wing adjustment and a metal toe.  I've never heard of those screws failing.

The one weak point of the Salomon is the toe wing AFDs.  Lots of people have issues with them chipping or breaking off.  I've never had that problem, but it does exist for some people.

Mar 4 2014 2:51PM
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TimRiley
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The one thing I don't like about my Sth2's is it's more of a pain in the ass if you have to change a brake out.
Mar 4 2014 3:13PM
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AJizzle
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If you broke a dual pivot race toe, there is no chance that I would buy anything other than an all metal binding.
Mar 4 2014 3:14PM
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blindside
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I'm hard on my equipment and have broke many bindings. I have the STH2 16s and they're my favourite so far, I recommend them. And to whoever said changing breaks was a pain I don't know what you're talking about, I had to change one last week and it literally took 30 seconds.
Mar 4 2014 4:39PM
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TimRiley
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I did. It's not a big deal, and don't think it should discourage anyone from buying these bindings. IMO to unscrew the fwd pressure screw, slide the heel piece fwd, pop out the brake, then reset the fwd pressure is more of a pain in the ass then to simply unscrew old brake, screw in new one.
Mar 4 2014 5:18PM
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