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Twerk
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I'm a senior in high school right now and I was just looking for any insight on how college is as an engineering major. From what I've heard it's a lot of work. I just want know to know if it really is that hard and if the free time is that limited.

+K for any help
Mar 3 2014 3:13PM
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DoteMoney
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Even if I were to consider going to a different school, I'm kind of screwed since all deadlines have passed... I don't really think there is anything that I can do
Mar 13 2014 10:22PM
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californiagrown
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Nope. youre just wrong. except for the internship part. false on the other 2 counts though.


Once you get in the door, it becomes about what you do. The seal on your diploma is huge for getting in the door, but means very little after a year or 2... and that includes getting into grad school. Grad school is more about GPA, Test scores and who you get as references.

You are blinded by the bullshit colleges put out if you dont realize this. College is meant to get you in the door and provide with tools to succeed. Those tools are universally taught, and universally learned.


Mar 13 2014 11:23PM
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45.
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This man speaks the truth.

Life is about networking and creating a name for yourself, sure - the prestigious school name get's you offers. But the guy above going to Iowa State has one the largest Engineering Career Fairs in the nation at his disposal, he'll do just fine.
Mar 13 2014 11:28PM
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californiagrown
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just a heads up but Ibanking isnt all its cracked up to be. the job will wreck you and it quite frankly sucks to do. the ONLY upside is you have the chance to make a lot of money. And you have no idea WTF you are talking about "after 2 years at a place like goldman". You think its not stupid comepetive to rise through the ranks haha? You are fucking delusional.

That was an awful example of your point. Ibanking is, outside of professional athletics, probly the best example of an ameritocracy in the job market. It is super difficult to actually go anywhere in the company unless you are a star, and the people that dont make it switch out.

A place where the name on your diploma does count for more than most places is Sand Hill Road. THAT is the place to make money in todays world...Not to mention 100% less shady(not to say Ibanking in itself is shady, but it is very prone to shady budiness).





Mar 14 2014 12:10AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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A road with a ton of venture-capitalist firms. The opposite of 128 in Mass, where there are a ton of startup companies.
Mar 14 2014 8:13AM
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lIllI
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Boy are you in for a rude awakening.
Mar 14 2014 1:43PM
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HamFaceGirl
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I'm an engineer, bitches love engineers, you'll have a grand time
Mar 14 2014 6:36PM
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.Duncan.
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First off this is an engineering thread where you shouldn't be speaking, second, what company do you work for now, please give some credibility to your claims.
Mar 14 2014 6:37PM
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lIllI
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uh...what?
Mar 15 2014 11:30AM
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snowbladesforlife
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You do not know what you're talking about. If you're in finance or consulting then you undergrad is always going to matter per-MBA and getting into a good MBA program. You think an MBA is going to take someone who went to CSU Fullerton over someone who went to Harvard with the same scores and work experience? Guess who McKinsey is going to interview first? I see it first hand every day. It does matter. I didn't go to a top school and I'm still making it, but things would have been easier if I did have Harvard/Princeton/Stanford on my resume.
Mar 18 2014 11:49AM
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californiagrown
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Same scores and work experience. thats the key part, chief. Undergrad is only a good indicator of test score because really smart kids are usually the only ones going to a top level school. A good test score is not a good indicator of undergrad because there are a fuckload of smart motherfuckers out there.

Like everyone has said, a great undergrad will get you into an entry level position, but then all bets are off. A CSU kid can crush it just as hard as a Harvard kid in the workforce.

Moral of the story- the undergrad doesnt make a great candidate, the candidate makes a great candidate. those top level schools are just generally where the best and brightest congregate. Doesnt mean than a dude from a CSU with the same smarts and work ethic has any less chance of being succesful.

If you crush it you will be succesful regardless of your undergrad. If you are so-so in the real world, but have a killer diploma, you will be just as succesful as a CSU Chico kid who is also so-so in the real world.

Mar 18 2014 10:43PM
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NotoriousT.S.E
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What/where are the start up companies on 128? Are you talking about all the offices along Burlington?
Mar 18 2014 11:26PM
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will-g
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this is generally true however Iowa State has a pretty good program. Largest career fair at the nation, 79mil worth of research being done in the college of engineering, and probably one of the best schools to go to if you are looking for agriculture engineering specifically. Iowa State (about 31k all told a year) is $8,000 cheaper before scholarships, than in-state at Illinois, granted U of Illinois is fucking expensive.
Mar 19 2014 12:13AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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They are smaller now than they were in the 1980s

but during that era companies like Raytheon, EMC Corp, MITRE, etc.

Now it is a lot of small BioMed companies in the fledgling stage. When I mean fledgling I mean they are still installing phone lines proper office supplies. But they hold a lot of promise.
Mar 19 2014 9:43AM
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snowbladesforlife
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You obviously have never working an meritocratic and pedigree related field where your undergrad matters. It will matter 5+ years out. When someone puts together a pitchbook with bios of the team you think they want someone with a CSU on there? No. You will have to work that much harder or have the right connects. A top notch school is going to make everything easier, including getting a top MBA program and getting a job out of there even.


Mar 19 2014 11:51AM
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if you can solve one ODE you can stay in this thread, but you cant....


So take your prestigious MBA talk the fuck outta here...this thread isnt for you.
Mar 19 2014 7:45PM
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Kalman Filter Update
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tru position is off because there is never any negative velocity to decrease the position, but the KF output is sexy....

now extending the KF to account for orientation using quaternions....
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Mar 19 2014 7:59PM
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TheCastrator69
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I want to be an engineer but I don't know how trains work....;''(
Mar 19 2014 8:00PM
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casanova.
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Im gonna have to disagree with some people here and say take the best school in which you can graduate with little or no debt. Debt can shackle you for years following graduation. Wanna take a year off and ski the Alps? Not gonna happen, you got 100k+ in debts to pay off.

You don't need to go to a top 50 college to make it. My brother went to a school well beyond the top 50 and will be attending one of the best law programs in the world (its number 3 in the t14).
Mar 19 2014 8:48PM
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californiagrown
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Anyone who says that graduating from CSU Fullerton will help you as much as graduating from Harvard is an idiot. Not doubt about it.

From my experience(which is all second hand, but pretty darn extensive nonetheless) a great undergrad doesnt help as much as many people think. Lots of folks think that once you get that degree, success is damn near garaunteed, and im just saying that is far, far from the truth.

The great colleges are great because of the caliber of student that goes there. the college doesnt make that student great. That is why those schools have name value; because kids, who were going to be succesful regardless of where they got their diploma, are the only ones who can get into those schools and then go on to be succesful. The name on the diploma is only the icing on the cake. The actual cake is how you perform in the real world. You dig?
Mar 19 2014 10:26PM
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FerrisBueller
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what is this data of? ODE's?
Mar 19 2014 10:40PM
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FerrisBueller
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^ I mean I know they are acceleration, velocity, and position vs. time graphs but what kind of experimentand do you use ordinary differential equations to get that kalman filter?
Mar 19 2014 10:43PM
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radmad
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This was post was mostly helpful to another person looking to go into engineering. But I'm torn between two schools, Montana State and Ohio State. Will I be screwed at Montana with internships, or not? That's my main concern.
Mar 19 2014 11:40PM
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californiagrown
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How motivated are you? If you would kill it at OSU then youll kill it at MSU. If you dont think you will be a star in your class, then go to OSU. Mediocre students will need the alumni connections. Plus OSU crushes it at sports and the overall college vibe. why the fuck would you go to montana for college when you could go to the college of all colleges?
Mar 19 2014 11:48PM
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radmad
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After living in Ohio for almost 19 years, I need some mountains and good snow in my life.
Mar 20 2014 12:03AM
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SKI.ING
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Um no. Just no to 95% of what you just said. GPAs play a big role. And athletes get accepted because....well they're athletes and college sports is big money. As long as you meet the minimum requirements and you are an all star athlete chances are you'll get in. Plus, what high school did you go to? I went to a public and most teahcers had to fudge grades for the really good athletes or their athleticism made up for it. Some who went on to the MLB too. Obviously there are exceptions in every case.

One real world example. Does Richard Sherman strike you as intelligent? I hope not. Is he a good athlete? Damn right. Went to Stanford based on his skills, not his academic intelligence.
Mar 20 2014 12:04AM
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californiagrown
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bad example. dude is actually very intelligent. met him in college, and a year ago. Stanford is different from anywhere else. it is an outlier that can only be used as an example unto itself.

A good example would be Jason Kidd and Marshawn Lynch both going to Cal.
Mar 20 2014 12:12AM
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2_fadez
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Stanford, UNC, UCLA and Penn State are routinely the top athletic schools in the nation cumulatively because of their high academics, good hiring rates, and fun college lifestyle.
The best athletes from unpopular sports realize they won't can't go professional and make it a career, so they end up going to the best academic and well-rounded schools in the nation that can give them a future. Plenty of smart athletes go to these schools as well with the understanding that education will come first in the long run and that should be a focus over a career in the pros
Mar 20 2014 12:53AM
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shocker611
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From someone that lived in Ohio, and moved to Utah for school. Choose MSU!!!! I bet you could get internships in Salt Lake comin outta MSU
Mar 20 2014 1:46AM
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shocker611
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lol based on my GRE score I'd be 151 iq, or 146 based on ACT. Have to say thats a joke
Mar 20 2014 1:52AM
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SKI.ING
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I have a hard time believing that, but I will take your word for it. So is it safe to infer you went to Stanford for engineering?
Mar 20 2014 2:08AM
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SKI.ING
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You make a good point, but you also have to know that the SAT, ACT, GRE, etc. are all bullshit too and are a huge money scam despite the emphasis colleges place on them. Admissions in general are really random sometimes. So many factors, especially the socioeconomic standing of a student. I know a handful of people who would have never gotten into UCLA with their stats had they been white.
Mar 20 2014 2:14AM
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shocker611
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I also know the other side though. Kids that get into schools simply because their parents are rich as fuck and donate to the school. Know one kid that got into med school this way and it would be bad news if he ever ended up operating on people
Mar 20 2014 2:28AM
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Scaredwhiteboy
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That website says the average IQ has been increasing by 0.3 points every year. That's absurdly fast. According to them, people we currently consider geniuses will be of only average intelligence in just 200 years.
Mar 20 2014 3:02AM
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406
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its just constant acceleration of 1g for 0.5 sec, 0g for 0.5sec, and -1g for 0.5sec. Then the known values are calculated for velocity and position using kinematic equations....known inputs are used to check if the filter iterations are working.

The idea is to take data from gyro, accelerometer, and magnetometer and filter the noisey data to get a clean representation for position and orientation of the device.
Mar 20 2014 1:40PM
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californiagrown
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nope. Grew up in Palo Alto. My degree is from Washington State.

Met sherman twice actually in college- once in the dorms while visiting friends, and another time while working a summertime job in stanfords athletic department.

Stanford is a trip because they only allow in kids with the academic stats of a harvard student, but they also HAVE TO BE world class in something. Its a bunch of savants. But the college experience there is so, so shitty. Terrible football scene, terrible party scene- just not a traditional college atmosphere. But its a genius' paradise. Truly a bubble within the bubble of Palo Alto.
Mar 20 2014 10:22PM
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Microcosm
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it's just a moving average of sorts why am I commenting on this
Mar 20 2014 10:39PM
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Microcosm
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it's just a moving average of sorts why am I commenting on this
Mar 20 2014 10:39PM
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californiagrown
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and what university are you attending?
Mar 20 2014 11:09PM
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shocker611
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haha you just have to make sure that EVERY person on here know where you went to school don't you
Mar 21 2014 2:37AM
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mrbillgates
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Can anyone in this thread tell me a bit more about Operations Research? The program sounded interesting…the little bit I have heard about, I'd love to hear what the meat and potatoes of the major really is. Please PM me if you can provide any detailed input.
Mar 21 2014 11:14AM
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turducken
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Haha. This.
Mar 24 2014 6:38PM
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Scaredwhiteboy
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Where does he go to school? All I've divined from reading this thread is that he goes to a school in the Ivy League Conference. I don't know why you would brag about that in an engineering thread, though. Ivy League schools aren't all that good for engineering.
Mar 24 2014 9:09PM
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2_fadez
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^Yep. Typical Ivy Leaguer waving their dick around for the University prestige before realizing that their program is below average for top tiers, and it's the success of their peers in other areas, rather than themselves, that has given them that reputation.

Think of it like shoes. Yeah I'm sure Polo shoes sound cool and all, but I think I'll stick with Nike, Asic or Redwing and a company that focuses on that product instead of putting a mediocre one out with their name attached.
Mar 24 2014 11:32PM
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will-g
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anyone have any cool stuff they made in solidworks or other cad software?
Mar 24 2014 11:41PM
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erejto64
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I'm mechanical at CU, its defeintley hard and your gonna have to skip those days skiing and some of those parties on Friday night, but if you know how to be productive, studying without your phone, staying off newschoolers, youll be just fine.
Mar 24 2014 11:41PM
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SKI.ING
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Yeah that's true too. I've heard of a few stories like that from friends.
Mar 25 2014 12:09AM
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2_fadez
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iq's are useless, and if it helps you relate, I got a 145. I'm in a top 5 program that I turned down 3 ivy leagues and a full honors ride to go to. Take your Princeton bullshit somewhere else. You aren't better than everyone else, and the fact you use your peers as the 'smarter than you' claim tells me something about yourself.
learn your place, and a princeton engineering degree certainly doesn't give you any stepping stools for a name on a diploma. some people realize theres more to a school than its name and apparently you missed out on that part
Mar 25 2014 12:24AM
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shocker611
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"I don't even like to tie myself to princeton".... 2 seconds later "hey, HEY!!! You guys!!! Guess where I went to college?!?!? I WENT TO PRINCETON?! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!!!"
Mar 25 2014 1:45AM
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--ski--
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Are you delusional? Two years doesn't mean anything. After two years you're still an analyst; a lifeless bottom-feeder putting in 100 hour weeks, doing excel and powepoint, getting yelled at when the printer breaks and doing everything in your capacity to make your boss look good. Regardless of your degree and where you got it from, you're not going anywhere in two years.
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