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2014/2015 ON3P Thread

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Pudge
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Let's just giv'er.

Let this be a framework in which we lust and yearn for the coming line, as well as debate and debase all inquiries pertaining to ON3P.



What is it your desire?

Feb 28 2014 11:17PM
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broto
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my desire is filthy riches. and it will be fulfilled. my wallet will hate me.
Feb 28 2014 11:34PM
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MartianMan
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That catalogue is like the bible
Feb 28 2014 11:42PM
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yangumane
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going to get these as well
Feb 28 2014 11:44PM
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life_is_hood
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those kartel 97's though
Mar 1 2014 1:06AM
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VD.
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Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered elsewhere or if it is just a silly question. But how different will next years Jeffrey122 feel flexwise compared to the Caylors?
Mar 1 2014 3:43AM
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ggfski42
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No more pillowfights, that sucks. The entire lineup looks great though guys I love this direction. I cant decide between the kartel's, but im deff. gona be purchasing one of them.
Mar 1 2014 8:39AM
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esotericjive
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As an east coast filmer, fat kartels or skinny Jeffreys?
Mar 1 2014 9:36AM
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Mr_pretzel
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presters baby, so excited.
Mar 1 2014 9:38AM
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Pudge
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I think in the 14/15 gear thread there was a member who had demoed all of next year's line, you could ask him. I don't think it has been answered.

If the flex is the same then it is nearly the same exact ski
Mar 1 2014 10:23AM
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steep
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Damn, really like those kartels.
Mar 1 2014 10:24AM
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Crazy_E
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There are going to be pillowfights, they just didnt have a prototype they were happy with for SIA so they are planning on doing a seperate reveal for the new pillowfights when theyre ready.  With that being said, Im planning on grabbin a pair of the new filthy riches.
Mar 1 2014 12:21PM
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iggyskier
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Very similar. Least changed ski of all the new changes. Jeffrey 122 is a touch stiffer.
Mar 1 2014 1:54PM
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iggyskier
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Kartel 106.
Mar 1 2014 1:54PM
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SoAnG
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Love my Jeffs. Only thing that can make them better for "me" is if they had a bit more flex.  Will the 106 Kartel be the answer?
Mar 1 2014 2:44PM
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iggyskier
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Kartel 106 is a bit softer than this years Jeffrey.
Mar 1 2014 2:55PM
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yangumane
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What were the changes to the Filthy?
Mar 1 2014 3:00PM
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iggyskier
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Not to sidecut and flex. We might be making one change to the core construction to strengthen the tips, though we are still testing it. Otherwise the same. Ski is really dialed as is.
Mar 1 2014 3:05PM
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cwillygood
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Depending on where I end up for school next year (MSU or somewhere on the East most likely) I will be saving up for the Jeffery 122's or Steeple 112's. Either way I am pumped the new line looks delicious.
Mar 1 2014 11:45PM
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M.M
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presters and possibly jeffery 114, ive got a question im looking for a pow ski that is real soft and i can butter around on in pow, im 150 and coming off of blends for my all mountain ski, i want something with similar flex but in the area of 110-115 underfoot, would the jeffery 114 be good?
Mar 1 2014 11:51PM
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Scotty_Boy
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Definitely getting Kartel 98s
Mar 2 2014 3:57PM
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BWalmer
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Yup, Kartel 98s and Presters looking like my go-tos for next season.
Mar 2 2014 5:03PM
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Xanadoo
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Edge finally went on my jmos after 5 seasons of use :(. Really want to save up for the kartel 98
Mar 2 2014 5:30PM
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No.Quarter
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Jeff 115 as my one ski quiver for college
Mar 2 2014 5:46PM
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Muggydude
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I'm curious- how does the Kartel 98 compare the the Jmo of a few years ago (11-12) with the 96 waist? Dimensions seem pretty similar in the 181s, 126/96/120 TR 21.4 vs 127/98/120 TR 20.5. Not sure about rocker, sidecut, weight...

Thanks
Mar 3 2014 12:43PM
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division.bell
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The new line up is so damn sick. I will for sure be picking up some 191 Jeffrey 122's to fill the hole from the 191 Grizzlycorn Caylors that I wish I never sold, and then some Steeple 112's (either 189's or 184's) for A/T use.

Would be awesome to see a Grizzlycorn comeback or revision for 14/15! I'd be down for a pair for certain!

Keep up the amazing work guys!
Mar 3 2014 1:17PM
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Scotty_Boy
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Same rocker profile as the 2014 jmo, also rocker profiles are in the catalog in OP's post
Mar 3 2014 1:42PM
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iggyskier
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They are going to be fairly similar. The older Jmo was a bit stiffer and had a slightly more progressive flex. The Kartel is going to butter a bit better and be a bit more playful and park oriented.

Weight should be lighter on the new model, but I don't remember the weight of the 11/12 Jmo off the top of my head.

The sidecut is going to be a bit tighter on the Kartel, but not much.

Similar rocker.

Definitely similar skis, but the Kartel 98 is just a bit more park influenced.
Mar 3 2014 1:43PM
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iggyskier
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Mar 3 2014 1:45PM
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Muggydude
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Thx iggy
Mar 3 2014 2:38PM
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wrenegade
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Love the grizzlycorn. Glad to see it back!
Mar 3 2014 2:40PM
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Bertrand
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Soooooo the grizzlycorn needs to go on my skis. Probably jeffrey 114's. Haven't made up my mind.
Mar 3 2014 3:03PM
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steep
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Grizzlycorn just swayed me. Def getting a pair. Just not sure what pair.
Mar 3 2014 3:08PM
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M.M
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help me out iggy
Mar 3 2014 4:44PM
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iggyskier
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We don't make skis that I would describe as real soft, so if you are looking for something super buttery I would probably look towards a K2 Shreditor 112 or something similar. All of our skis have a backbone and even our softest skis I would describe as medium to medium-stiff in flex.

That said, I don't think the skis would be a bad fit. You would get used to them over time, and the performance when you are not butter is going to be a lot more stable and supportive.

The rocker is going to help you butter for sure, but if you are looking at something that is "real soft" I would look elsewhere. If you want something that you can butter with, but will remain stable at speed, the Jeffrey 114 is a great fit.

Hope that helps.
Mar 3 2014 5:31PM
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yangumane
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it's so refreshing to see some honest advice, even at the detriment of your own company. we need more guys in the ski industry like you. +K
Mar 3 2014 5:39PM
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Pudge
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Will the new Grizzlycorn topsheet a feature the original Grizzlycorn base???
Mar 3 2014 7:03PM
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.nasty
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gargle gargle.
Mar 3 2014 7:03PM
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iggyskier
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I will have to see if we can get more done.

Honestly...I wouldn't many pairs of GC tops to be available We made that updated graphic up to put on the skis of a few friends. We might make a very very small number of them available publicly, but nothing is final as of yet.
Mar 3 2014 7:14PM
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Pudge
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For sure, I think I'll be sticking to the veneer however. On some Jeff 122s
Mar 3 2014 8:22PM
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Xanadoo
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do you guys know how the pricing will work next season for the kartels and jeffreys yet? just trying to get an idea of how much ill have to save up to make all my dreams come true
Mar 3 2014 8:28PM
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iggyskier
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Kartel 98 - $649
Kartel 106 - $679
Jeffrey 114 - $729
Jeffrey 122 - $749

Mar 3 2014 8:32PM
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Xanadoo
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thanks!
Mar 3 2014 8:35PM
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cwillygood
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K who?

Get ON3P.

Shred.

End of story.
Mar 3 2014 8:40PM
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Heart
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Ewww the filthy rich graphic is disgusting. Lineup looks excellent though.
Mar 3 2014 9:12PM
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DGski
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Jeffrey 122 is mine.. Heading to whis next season!!
Mar 3 2014 9:17PM
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Xanadoo
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another question. whatre your guys' policies for requesting a different top sheet design on a sheet? if i remember correctly (and i very well may not) you guys used to allow people to get Jmos with say the billy goat or wren graphics. is that still the case? i ask because the only thing greater than my desire for 98 kartels is my desire for 98 kartels with this years pillowfight graphics
Mar 3 2014 9:22PM
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iggyskier
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We've really tried to shift away from that, largely because we are doing much higher production volumes than we used to and custom work tends to slow us down.

That said, we get those requests a ton and have been thinking about potentially doing a limited custom option once per year. It would be on a very limited basis, likely in the spring during production, for summer/fall delivery. It is nothing more than an idea at the moment and I don't know at this point if it will become anything more than that, but it is something we are considering.
Mar 3 2014 9:28PM
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Xanadoo
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thanks again. thats sort of what i figured.

if you guys do end up doing some sort of custom option thatd be awesome. im assuming this is an idea that would not be implemented (if it is at all) til next year? id likely not have enough dough in time to get em this spring anyway but if you did it next year id get on that like LJ Strenio on a Krispy Kreme donut
Mar 3 2014 9:51PM
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Bmo.
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As soon as I get a job I'm buying grizzly corn kartels
Mar 8 2014 6:09PM
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-wakes-
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Anyone have any insight as to how a 181 Jeffery 114 compares to a 185 JJ? Stability at speed, variable snow, ability to make tight turns ect?
Mar 8 2014 6:55PM
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