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fuckgoof
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How many you guys are atheists? just kinda wondering
Sep 24 2013 10:29PM
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Wallisch_pl
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This, I mean, I'm not really religious, and I guess I believe in forms of "god" but the shit they say happened is so stupid, like where do they come up with these things?
Sep 25 2013 10:54AM
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Bogs
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Satan lives!

Hail Satan!
Sep 25 2013 10:56AM
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Wallisch_pl
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evolution is true
Sep 25 2013 10:59AM
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chicken
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technically you can prove something doesn't exist.

but science doesn't prove anything. There isn't even such thing as a proof in science. All we can do is make theories based on the evidence we have. If we find something that doesn't fit the theory then we have to find new theories to describe what nature.

Theists are the ones making the claim. They are the ones who need to bring the evidence to the table.
Sep 25 2013 12:40PM
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SteevJee
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Sep 25 2013 12:56PM
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Laurent.
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Do you even Science?
The burden of proof falls to the one proposing a hypothesis.
So far there's no evidence for a god.
And by utilizing infallible Bayesian inference we can conclude:

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Sep 25 2013 1:05PM
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cbj
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Lawrence I doubt god cares about logic proofs
Sep 25 2013 1:40PM
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drewolson24
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Science contradicts religion and religion proves science wrong. Not believing in evolution is irrelevant because science dates bones and other fossils back to millions of years ago. Not 2000 years ago. Also.. Someone or something had to of created everything in our world today at some point. If the Big Bang was true, where did this whole universe even come from? Something had to of just started the whole thing at some point.
Sep 25 2013 1:48PM
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Dwarftosser1
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How about no...
Sep 25 2013 1:50PM
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cbj
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Did you not see my post? Things come from nothing all the time, observe space in a vaccuum.

Why do people feel like there had to have been a cause? Why can't the universe just have popped into existence for no reason? It's just as plausible
Sep 25 2013 1:50PM
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Aidan-G
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I don't have a problem with believing that there was an omnipotent force that started the chain of events that led to the universe, I have a problem being told it was a person created from a story 2000 years ago when it obviously happened 14 billion years ago
Sep 25 2013 1:53PM
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drewolson24
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This.
Sep 25 2013 2:02PM
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Bogs
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Because humans are afraid of/dislike that which they cannot comprehend. Whole reason religion started in the first place. We like events having reasons for happening.
Sep 25 2013 2:23PM
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chicken
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how do you know this?
Sep 25 2013 3:08PM
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fuckgoof
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Ive Been trying to delete this thread for like a day haha dude I know it was stupid but it has actually increased my karma XD. Yeah I studied all those worldviews a few weeks back but I made a 62 on the test so I dont remember much. But thats good you have changed your worldview. I am stil deciding mine but im probably gonna stay christian considering its what ive been studying since the 3rd grade. Im sorry if I offended anyone with what I said and please dont judge christianity based off of me and what I have said as I have stated peeviously I am not a very good christian and would say im a pretty big hypocrite
Sep 25 2013 3:16PM
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Da_Buddha
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dafuq 3rd page and no memes?

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Sep 25 2013 3:17PM
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fuckgoof
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And that is what is called an opinion. One I do not argue with because like I stated before. Im only 15 and still deciding what I believe regarding the creation of the earth and wich one God used to create the earth
Sep 25 2013 3:21PM
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roddy116
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^ most ignorant anti christian memes i have ever seen.
Sep 25 2013 3:22PM
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fuckgoof
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No do you and if so what evidence do you have to prove that and where did it come from
Sep 25 2013 3:24PM
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cbj
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You actually care about karma?

And don't worry, I don't judge it off of you. I judge Christianity off the FACT that it is false
Sep 25 2013 3:24PM
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.frenchy
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I can't take anything you post seriously, i'm sorry.
Sep 25 2013 3:26PM
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fuckgoof
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Ok first yes there is such thing. Second I never said that, I said that it is amazing and for me it was hard to believe something as complex and impressive as the grand canyon or the human body just happened (sorry if that wasnt clear)
Sep 25 2013 3:31PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Well I have good news for you buddy, science has developed scientific theories explaining why both these amazing things exist!
Sep 25 2013 3:35PM
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fuckgoof
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I know but how do you know that those machines are correct? Again nothing can be proven by science. In the end its all about faith and what you believe. I also dont know why you guys are still trying to argue evolution with me, I said im still not sure on my views of creation so arguing is pointless. I have nothing to argue
Sep 25 2013 3:36PM
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Bogs
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no, there isn't. Whether you are gay or straight is not a choice. You cannot be born gay then suddenly turn straight.

And, when asked for proof of God, you said: "The freakin grand canyon!!"

So, that IS what you said.

Pretty sure you're just trolling though.
Sep 25 2013 3:38PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Hahahahahaohohohoho
Sep 25 2013 3:38PM
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fuckgoof
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Well first off a theory is far from being proven. Its just a hypothesis thats been tested with lots of data. But yes it has both make very good points and ive already said I dont have an opinion yet
Sep 25 2013 3:40PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Reread that post, and apply your reasoning to your own beliefs.
Sep 25 2013 3:44PM
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Caleb.E
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they all seam decent to me....
Sep 25 2013 3:44PM
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erikK
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It's called erosion. The water erodes sediment from the ground, that's why the water is coloured. The coloured water means it's still happening. The present is the key to the past. If fucking god made the grand canyon spontaneously, why is it still getting deeper and wider? It takes millions of years and is still happening every day. Are you trolling?
Sep 25 2013 3:47PM
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Laurent.
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Only a theory? Let's look at what 'theory' means. The Oxford English Dictionary gives two meanings (actually more, but these are the two that matter here).


Theory, Sense 1: A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation or account of a group of facts or phenomena; a hypothesis that has been confirmed or established by observation or experiment, and is propounded or accepted as accounting for the known facts; a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles, or causes of something known or observed.

Theory, Sense 2: A hypotheses proposed as an explanation; hence, a mere hypothesis, speculation, conjecture; an idea or set of ideas about something; an individual view or notion.


Obviously the two meanings are quite different from one another. And the short answer to the question about the theory of evolution is that scientists are using Sense 1, while the creationists and you are - perhaps mischievously, perhaps sincerely - opting for Sense 2.
Sep 25 2013 3:50PM
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fuckgoof
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No I dont I never said I did I just stated that the thread didnt really have a negative result on me using my karma as example. And also what you said is kind of stupid. You judge a worldview by the fact that you think it is false, thats realy stupid. Worldviews are like an ice berg. You can only see 10% of an iceberg, the other 90% is above the surface Therefore you cannot judge how big an iceberg is without looking under it (I know technically u could just do simple math to figure it out but its just a metaphor)
Sep 25 2013 3:52PM
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Aidan-G
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The Grand Canyon is the classic example of erosion over millions of years. If you want to see what a giant flash flood does look up the Channeled Scablands and Super Lake Missoula. Trust me, floods like that do not create canyons
Sep 25 2013 3:56PM
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roddy116
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A. quote does not make sense
B. Its called dark ages because of plague and germanic tribes, if you think a religion cause 1000+ years of scientific stalling think again.
C. Polyphiesm and Monotheism are two very different things, if you read into the stories (which i know no atheist has the time read something unscientific so it wont matter) the stories are very very different.
D. Its a widely accepted fact that if you do morally good things and dont kill you will go to heaven.
E. Father, Son, Holy spirit are different but at the core they are the same.
F. Bible was translated (new testament was greek, old was in hebrew), James Peter and others were translated into english.
G. Christianity stemmed from judaism as did Islam, take ten seconds to google it.
H. thats pretty funny.
Sep 25 2013 3:56PM
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roddy116
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Also, the church had more power during the renaissance than any other time in history.
Sep 25 2013 4:00PM
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fuckgoof
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Yes but science doesnt accept a theory as truth until it has been tested enough times, covering all the variables at which point it becomes a scientific law. Also all scientific laws can be proven at any time, for example the law of spontaneous generation was proved wrong after 2000 years of being accepted as a scientific law
Sep 25 2013 4:01PM
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cowofawesome
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Science says that all matter was randomly created from nothing.
Yet science has a law that says that matter cannot be created or destroyed.
Sep 25 2013 4:07PM
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fuckgoof
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I never said god made it spontaneously I just said god had something to do with it. HOLY SOME OF YOU ATHEISTS MUST NOT LIKE TO READ, BUT THEN AGIAN IT HAS NOTHING TO WITH ATHEISM OR SCIENCE AND YOU THINK ITS WRONG SO YOU JUST SKIM OVER IT NOT ACTUALLY TAKING IN ANYTHING I HAVE SAID
Sep 25 2013 4:11PM
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Aidan-G
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You never said it explicitly but your challenging of other statements implied that the Grand Canyon was created by a super flood
Sep 25 2013 4:20PM
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fuckgoof
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I am done trying to argue with you people, some of you have actually read and put up a good challenging argument. The rest of you atheists are to ignorant to actually maje a real argument, you have to take into account what the other has said in order to make a good argument. THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO HAD SOME SENSE, MADE A REAL ARGUMENT AND ACTUALLY READ WHAT I WROTE INSTEAD OF JUST MINDLESSLY PROCLAIMING HOW ATHEISM IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN CHRISTIANITY!
Sep 25 2013 4:21PM
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Laurent.
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And right here I'm going to pull my hands of trying to type anything meaningful any further.

Presenting spontaneous generation as a scientific law is ludicrous and based on nothing, it was merely a body of thought for two millennia but definitely not a law.
Sep 25 2013 4:24PM
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KingGeedorah
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I'd like to mention that the Bilble is not intended as a literal work. Anyone who thinks it is is a straight goon. There are several passages in the Bible that are no longer valid because of science and other historical evidence. For example, the Church's doctrine against masturbation cme from the idea that semen was in limited supply, this obviously isn't true, so have a ball with that. Also, OP you are stupid or obvious troll.
Sep 25 2013 4:43PM
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Wolffy
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Sep 25 2013 4:45PM
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TechnoPotamus
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Sep 25 2013 4:52PM
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Wolffy
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this
Sep 25 2013 4:54PM
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howlongcanausern
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more precisely:

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Sep 25 2013 4:56PM
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Obi-Wan-Jenobi
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I love most of your posts roddy but although some people may think D true that does not make it true. Its False. On the other hand, people who think science and christianity are not compatible do not understand either, especially christianity. No recent ( past few hundred years) scientific discovery has proven christianity wrong, and many have done more to confirm my faith then anything.
Sep 25 2013 5:05PM
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Granby_killdozer
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I don't know what kind of pseudo-scientific bullshit you're learning, but in REAL science there isn't room for a giant bearded man in the sky... keep your ignorance to yourself.
Sep 25 2013 5:19PM
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roddy116
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that is one of the most questioned subject within denominations.
Sep 25 2013 5:20PM
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Granby_killdozer
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Educate yo self! http://www.livescience.com/27489-grand-canyon.html
Sep 25 2013 5:21PM
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