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If you do molly...

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theabortionator
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If you do molly, buy a tester kit. I know I've said this on here a ridiculous amount of times but BUY A TESTER KIT.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/09/01/final-day-of-nycs-electric-zoo-festival-canceled-after-two-drug-related-deaths/

"The festival-goers who died were identified as 20-year-old Olivia Rotondo and 23-year-old Jeffrey Russ"

That is way too young. The last few years bathsalts have become all the rage. People just want to make a quick buck and don't care, or don't know what they're selling you. At some of these electronic festivals, over 3/4s of the "Molly" going around is a completely different chemical and contains no traces of mdma. Honestly seems it could be close to 90% at some of them. One of the huge problems with this beyond the obvious, is that there are a lot of young kids going to these shows. They want to get a little fucked up and rage their favorite sets, have a good time with their friends. People just blindly assume that the person selling them molly, actually has mdma. Also, people seem to think because something got them fucked up/ gave them energy, that's it's mdma. Just because it's not baby powder doesn't mean it's mdma.

If more people had test kits it would make the music scene in general MUCH safer. The test kits generally go for about $20 bucks and you can get 50/100 tests out of a bottle depending on what kind you get.

Don't take a chance with your life. I'm not telling you to stay inside, skip the shows and never have any fun, I'm just asking you to be safe and be aware.

These tests kits are very easy to use, you don't have to have a college degree in chemistry to figure them out. It just takes a tiny spec of "molly" and 1 drop from the test kit. Seriously it takes a crumb, so don't worry about wasting all of it to the point where you'd rather just risk it. The reaction happens in seconds. Sometimes just pulling out a test kit will cause a seller with fake molly to leave. Some people don't even know that they've been selling fake things because they got it from a friend, who got it from a friend etc.

If you and your friends like to go shows, or just like to eat molly, look into buying one of these.

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http://dancesafe.org/products/testing-kits

http://bunkpolice.org/basic-test-kit/


Be safe and have fun!


And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...
Sep 1 2013 7:09PM
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iFlip
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Exactly. One could simply just not partake in a potentially dangerous drug purchased from someone who is clearly sketchy (drug dealer). Temporary high, not worth it. Can't say I feel sorry for those two festival-goers.
Sep 1 2013 7:12PM
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Jeebus.
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Agreed, you gotta know what you're actually putting into your system. Testing is the way to go.
Sep 1 2013 7:15PM
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LiquorLanch
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Please be safe, last few weeks in boston people have been dying or getting real fucked up on "molly" at shows
Sep 1 2013 7:15PM
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duuude.
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If you do molly... You'll be sweatin'
Sep 1 2013 7:18PM
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SkiBum.
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Or just don't pop random pills in the first place...

Or do, and let natural selection take its course. Fine with me.
Sep 1 2013 7:18PM
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skiierman
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... or don't be a fucking idiot and buy drugs from random people at music festivals. Then you don't have to buy a testing kit or worry if you're ingesting draino.
Sep 1 2013 7:18PM
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maximiliaan
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had a bad trip yesterday from x :( puked all over the place and had an bad headage
Sep 1 2013 7:22PM
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theabortionator
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People and their high horses. As if you never did anything stupid when you were younger. I posted this because there are a lot of young kids getting fucked up on random chemicals.

Even outside of music festivals most the "molly" people are eating is fake. Even from their trusted friends.

You don't have to go to the hood to buy something sketchy.


Honestly if you want to talk about prevention to that extent why don't we just end the drug war? Idk, I guess I just missed the humor in young people dying. Going to a show to have a good time and then having to watch their best friend have seizures and eventually die. I guess that's pretty funny.
Sep 1 2013 7:26PM
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SkiBum.
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Hey, I wear a condom. I am plenty safe.
Sep 1 2013 7:33PM
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987321654hgfd
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It just sucks that if you don't do molly, the music sucks...
Sep 1 2013 7:36PM
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jfxphoto
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This is why the EDM scene has been turning to shit.

If you don't like the music without drugs don't go to the fucking show.


Thanks for posting this thread, hopefully it makes a few kids on hear think twice before popping unknown substances.

If you can ALWAYS buy ahead of time from someone you know and trust.
Sep 1 2013 8:09PM
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freestyler540
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I get mine from a reputable source. Never been pressed or capsulated. I never did get high off of it.
Sep 1 2013 8:10PM
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arnie_grape
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don't say that, you're going to put a lot of 'musicians' out of business
Sep 1 2013 8:11PM
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jfxphoto
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Any true musician would rather have less people at their shows who were actually into the music than a crowd full of raving molly zombies
Sep 1 2013 8:17PM
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987321654hgfd
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I don't. I just know a whole lot of people who do.
Sep 1 2013 8:17PM
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Miomo
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Idk, bro
YOLO
Sep 1 2013 8:19PM
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987321654hgfd
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If you push play on a macbook and call it a live show, you're not a true musician.
Sep 1 2013 8:20PM
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theabortionator
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That means absolutely nothing regarding the quality. You could get a pressed pill that's loaded with pure mdma and no crap, and then a bag of powder that contains no mdma.

It's sad that people are scared of rolls because "they're all dirty" but assume that the bag of powder they bought is completely legit.

Also as far as a "reputable source" still be careful. I had somebody at counterpoint last year tell me "I got it from a trusted friend", when I asked if they needed anything tested. I again asked, she insisted that she didn't need it tested because she got it from a trusted friend and knew it was good. Finally I convinced her to let me test it. She ended up having methylone.
Sep 1 2013 8:38PM
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SkiBum.
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You should be a tester. Eat pills. If you die, then others know its bad.
Sep 1 2013 8:44PM
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TechnoPotamus
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good thread, and it's a good idea. thanks for the links
Sep 1 2013 8:46PM
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Phil-X-
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Lets not make generalizations. Shit bags like Steve Aoki give the production of edm a shitty rep
Sep 1 2013 8:47PM
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JeremyClarkson
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Supported. Its sickening the amount of bunk shit that goes around, especially these last two summers.

Sep 1 2013 8:48PM
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first_rodeo
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Yeah go to Bisco and say edm isnt dope

Sep 1 2013 8:50PM
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skiierman
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Oh I've done plenty of stupid things but you have to be a special kind of retarded to think that taking random drugs from random people at a music festival is a good idea.

You might as well be trying to defend people who play Russian roulette.
Sep 1 2013 9:28PM
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theabortionator
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Um, yeah sure
Sep 2 2013 2:22AM
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Bateman
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easy for you to say in hindsight, sure, but when you're already pretty drunk at a festival, when a dude offers you 'molly' i'm sure it sounds like the bestest idea ever, at that time.
Sep 2 2013 2:36AM
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Justin.B
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Very good idea, supported for sure. Thanks for the links hombrè
Sep 2 2013 2:45AM
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pmw
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Thank you. +100
Sep 2 2013 3:32AM
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deleted5
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Thank you, don't fucking do drugs it's really not that hard, I've never done molly when i was younger its easy to say no. Get ready for a huge crack down on bring drugs into these things.
Sep 2 2013 4:06AM
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deleted5
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Thank you, don't fucking do drugs it's really not that hard, I've never done molly when i was younger its easy to say no. Get ready for a huge crack down on bring drugs into these things.
Sep 2 2013 4:06AM
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deleted5
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Thank you, don't fucking do drugs it's really not that hard, I've never done molly when i was younger its easy to say no. Get ready for a huge crack down on bring drugs into these things.
Sep 2 2013 4:07AM
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deleted5
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Thank you, don't fucking do drugs it's really not that hard, I've never done molly when i was younger its easy to say no. Get ready for a huge crack down on bring drugs into these things.
Sep 2 2013 4:08AM
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deleted5
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Thank you, don't fucking do drugs it's really not that hard, I've never done molly when i was younger it's easy to say no. Get ready for a huge crack down on bring drugs into these things.
Sep 2 2013 4:08AM
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deleted5
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Thank you, don't fucking do drugs it's really not that hard, I've never done molly when i was younger its easy to say no. Get ready for a huge crack down on bring drugs into these things.
Sep 2 2013 4:11AM
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B.Aussie
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Great thread. For the sake of my friends I wish test kits were easier to get here.
Sep 2 2013 4:15AM
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spliff.Life
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you dont even need a tester kit if you know what youre looking for
Sep 2 2013 4:16AM
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JuliusJ
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one of the first things i whole heartedly agree with on skiierman
Sep 2 2013 4:23AM
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skiierman
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STOP THE SHORT BUS! WE LEFT ONE BEHIND!
Sep 2 2013 8:47AM
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theBearJew
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This so much. I agree with you OP, they should have a tester kit. But don't do the drugs in the first place. Maybe it's because I am not in the EDM scene, but I can't understand why you HAVE to drop molly, acid, or any of that shit to enjoy the music. But then again maybe that is why nobody likes the music unless you are on some drug.

If you don't want to die from drugs, don't do them. I don't feel sorry for anyone like that. I feel sorry for the families, but not for the user. If you aren't smart enough to bring your own shit to a show, then you probably shouldn't be buying it at all.

Sep 2 2013 10:17AM
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theBearJew
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And one more thing, Fuck EDM. I have seen so many of my friends who have never done anything past weed start to get into dubstep and all that crap. They go to one show, don't do anything cause its their first time, but see everyone else having a blast and they're just not enjoying it as much. So the second show they pop molly, x, or whatever and now they are hooked on face rolling all the time.
Sep 2 2013 10:19AM
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TechnoPotamus
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You don't HAVE to do drugs or any of that crap to enjoy the music.

I'm the biggest EDM fan you'll meet, and I have been for years and years, and I go to way more shows totally sober than under the influence of anything. I'm not the only person like that.

Unfortunately, electronic music culture has become associated with those types of drugs because of the stupid and irresponsible actions of a small percentage of people. It's sad, and so unnecessary for these people to die because they can't be smart or safe.


Recently this stuff has been highlighted, and it's for good reason because people need to be aware of the danger. At the same time though, I can't help but draw a parallel to college drinking. Maybe because I don't drink. But why do people HAVE to get totally wasted from drinking in college and why do so many have to die from alcohol poisoning each year? Again, it's so sad and so unnecessary.


I don't even know how to fix it, it seems comical to suggest a drug and alcohol education program at the high school level but clearly D.A.R.E. programs in elementary school where the message is just "don't do drugs or drink or omg you're gonna die" isn't working. I'm rambling. I was at ezoo this past weekend and it's a huge bummer what happened, I can't imagine how the friends and families of the two that died are feeling right now.
Sep 2 2013 10:30AM
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Huck_Norris
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Hey guys, sick set- anybody got any death Molly? No? Alright I'll keep looking.
Sep 2 2013 10:50AM
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theBearJew
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Glad to her that someone goes and doesn't just face roll while they're there.

As far as what you said about DARE, maybe they need to start educating kids at an older age about the effect of the drugs rather than just saying DONT DO THEM! OMG YOU'LL DIE!

Kids are going to do some drugs in this day and age, but if you show them why some are maybe better than others and let them choose for themselves, maybe that will work? Don't advocate drug usage, but advocate smart decisions.
Sep 2 2013 10:58AM
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CliffyByro
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i agree 110% with you op. saw some guy selling pills for £7 at a festival i was at last week, when the street price for an average pill is £10. anyone dumb enough to fall for that sort of shit deserves what they get.

one thing though. drugs and dance music are intrinsically linked. they have been for years and always will be, people need to stop acting like its a new thing. im not condoning it, im just saying rave culture in the past 30 years is completely drug-centric. that's a different discussion though
Sep 2 2013 12:02PM
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Balto
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I would say 10 each is very common, and most people buying at that price are just buying a few anyway, like with anything buying bulk is the best way to keep costs down unless you have a buddy that hooks it up or something. Plus most people selling don't want to be openly counting cash at shows as it looks a bit suspicious, so 10 is a good round number.
Sep 2 2013 1:11PM
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Benson.
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More like fuck your dumbass friends. I've been listening to EDM and going to shows completely sober and having A BLAST for years. There's a lot more to the genre than fucking Skrillex brostep. I've never done molly, or anything other than weed and alcohol for that matter. The people who need drugs to enjoy EDM are the ones who are ruining the genre and need to stop involving their dumb selves with it.
Sep 2 2013 1:26PM
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walterson
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smoke weed


Sep 2 2013 1:48PM
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TechnoPotamus
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i agree with you 100%

it's just like sex education, people are going to have sex regardless of what anybody says. so advocate how to do so safely, to just say omg don't do it doesn't help anybody, and is just a disservice.



Sep 2 2013 2:05PM
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2dope2cope
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my mom says thats not ok
Sep 2 2013 2:12PM
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CliffyByro
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this, the amount of people who don't know shit about what drugs actually do what is incredible
Sep 2 2013 2:13PM
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