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Extreme Makeover: Park Edition

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rockersteez
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So this doesn't actually exist(as far as I know) but it would be pretty sick. Send in pictures and videos of your home mountain, tell us a sad story that we can play with somber music etc.


Then a team of builders come in and pimp your park out and save the day. All the kids say no to drugs and get awesome at park skiing now that they finally have something decent to lap.





Good idea? Terrible idea?
Jul 16 2013 11:52AM
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trampsesh
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I think that it would be a great idea. But how would you decide where they would go? because lots of mountains don't have very good parks.
Jul 16 2013 11:57AM
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kootenayklaus
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I mean, that's an awesome idea, but the problem would be demographics of viewing.

Assuming you're grabbing the idea from Extreme Home Makeover, the reason that show is successful is for two reasons; the first being that it's a general show that everyone can enjoy, and the other that it's helping people in need. Revamping a terrain park wouldn't exactly give a better home to lower class kids and families, and you instantly lost some of the viewing "value" there. Also, the only people this show would interest would be skiers, snowboarders, and maybe a few others interested in action sports. All in all, as much as I would want to see something like that it just wouldn't bring in the numbers that a broadcast channel would like.
Jul 16 2013 11:59AM
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Turkelton
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Make it a NS tv thing, would be epic!
Jul 16 2013 12:04PM
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rockersteez
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I mean you can't fix everyones parks. Probably go based on the need, and how sad their story is while played over sarah mclaughlin.

But if it helps a few parks out it would be cool. Unrealistic? Probably but it would be awesome.

One of the most positive aspects could potentially be showing other mountains how to better their parks on their own. See the pictures and video of a horrible park and watch what is done to transform that park from a total bust to a winner.

Some mountains straight up don't care about their parks at all, while others simply feel overwhelmed and don't know how to go about improving it. Hell some mountains probably don't even know that their park isn't the best thing ever.

I guess if it went that route, and also was super low budget as you'd expect, it might just be able to work. I feel like most mountains would be able to invest a little bit of money if it meant bringing in more revenue through the park and making their patrons happy.
Jul 16 2013 12:11PM
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saxon
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good idea and personally i think it'd be sick!

however logistical/planning/financial nightmare. if a hill's park is shit, chances are they don't have great features and don't devote alot of time to it. So if the Team came in to revamp it, they would have to bring features, buy features, or use the hill's cat time, all of which are not cheap.

second, hills probably won't want the responsibility of maintaining it, or they likely would have done better from the get-go.

and insurance and shit is always such a hassle.

don't get me wrong, i'd watch it for sure! but it would need some heavy financial supporters. IMO anyways.
Jul 16 2013 12:17PM
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michael.loop.5
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Mt Ashland location Ashland Oregon park as been doomed ever since amazing park builder Griffin Loop who has left Mt Ashland to manage the park at park city for a few years but just recently left to work for a company called summit. They need ur help! They have the location and everything all they need is ur creative ideas!
Jul 16 2013 12:33PM
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rockersteez
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Sometimes all it takes is a few features and properly setting them up. It would be that hard to get say 2 rails, 2 boxes, and build a nice looking jump or 2. If they have anything existing give it a little grind down and repaint.

I don't see using the hills cat time as being a problem. It wouldn't take that long to revamp the park in one build. If the mountain has a problem with you using their cat to build them a free park, then they probably don't deserve one.

As far as them not maintaining it that really would be a big problem. I would hope that seeing their mountain not suck would be motivation to keep it up, but realistically it wouldn't always happen.
Jul 16 2013 12:35PM
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daOyster
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Not all mountains want the help either, someone offered to make rails as practice for free for our home mountain but they refused them.
Jul 16 2013 2:19PM
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WU-sconsin
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THis is a great idea but it would be so hard to choose a place because some places might think they are taking care of their park fine and there are soooo many shitty parks. It would have to be done at a place that may have a bad park, but if it got a makeover, a bunch of people would ride it. Otherwise, your gonna makeover some nice park that barely anyone skis.
Jul 16 2013 2:28PM
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rockersteez
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Sometimes that can be a liability. I don't know the situation or what they planned on using, but I've seen some wild stuff. I saw somebody bring a pvc rail to a mountain and set it up once.

But even if the rails are steel and decently built some mountains don't want to risk of it being built by somebody they some random.

Or they could just be dumb and are turning down awesome stuff because it might actually make the mountain decent. No idea.
Jul 16 2013 2:30PM
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Anchorfilms
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Coming from a small mountain that sounds wonderful

Jul 16 2013 3:28PM
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youngdtay
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Lots of people don't have very good houses either.


But how is the mountain supposed to maintain the park after all is said and done? Sometimes it's just out of the mountain's budget, or they just don't value park skiing/boarding, and what if they have a really shitty parky force? Fire all the all the parkies and hire better ones? Seems expensive and out of reach.

As cool as this would be, there are a lot of holes. It's easy for a family to maintain a house after being redesigned, but there really is nothing stopping the park from completely going to seed soon after, let alone the following season.
Jul 16 2013 3:39PM
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Static
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add some old crazy snowcat driver yelling at the park crews like gordon ramsey
Jul 16 2013 3:49PM
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Hughes
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such a good idea
Jul 16 2013 3:56PM
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rockersteez
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If it was on a reasonable scale and not, let's build an xgames course and leave it's doable. For maintaining the rails you don't really need much of a budget. Volunteer labor but holding them accountable in terms of working for a pass so they legitimately have to make some effort. Maintaining jumps would be tough as you're dealing with sometimes sandy vets who have been at the mountain since the civil war and don't take to kindly to any changes.

That would have to be part of the process of choosing a mountain. Finding a place that seems to be willing to take care of things after so it's a helping hand in the right direction instead of something that looks cool for a month and then rots on the side of the trail for the next 10 years.

A little motivation goes along way in keeping a park decent. If kids saw there mountain as something decent instead of a total joke I'd hope they'd be more likely to help keep it that way.

The whole idea is unrealistic in a sense but I just found it interesting and thought I'd share.
Jul 16 2013 4:00PM
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rockersteez
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Fuck yeah!


From the creators of Hell's Kitchen comes a new poorly made reality show called "Satan's park crew".

Who broke the god damn motherfucking rake?!?!

I said put it in as a flat not some fucking crooked partially aborted disaster!

Idk, that could be fun though. I bet TLC would run it, they'll put anything on these days.
Jul 16 2013 4:04PM
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Balbertt
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Problem #1 is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Jul 16 2013 6:26PM
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VerticalDrop
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man Perfect North needs this so bad! would love to see pro park builders come in and move the park to where it really needs to be, Backstage!
Jul 16 2013 6:50PM
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MTPOW
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I think this is a great idea. Of course it would stay on NS tv or something similar but I don't see too many problems.

For money, I'm sure if we get enough hype for it sponsor would jump on the idea. They get their logo on the rails and toss in some money and it's a win win situation. And because it is Newschoolers, we have connections and could maybe even get Monster/Red Bull status companies.

For demographics, I'm sure a lot of the skiing community would watch it. A lot of people don't have access to the well maintained parks so they can relate in that way and at the end of the episode you get to see some of the skiing on the new park, with before and after.

Good idea OP
Jul 16 2013 9:06PM
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DeRizzo
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This is the best idea I've heard in awhile.

With that being said, there are a ton of people out there that just don't feel that way. I think if the audience of freeskiing/boarding increased, we'd have this show. BUT, another thing to remember is if we combined snowboarding and skiing, we could increase the interest level by a ton.
Jul 16 2013 9:58PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Get Skiierman to host it
Jul 16 2013 10:20PM
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rockersteez
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lol, that's a good one. He's not even as big of a douche as he tries to be. All hype. Teddy bear status
Jul 17 2013 1:04AM
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Karma_Police
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You guys have potential too :(
Jul 17 2013 2:48AM
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magicalkitten
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Pimp my Park
Jul 17 2013 10:00AM
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Coxworth
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sean white can be the host, WP
Jul 17 2013 1:06PM
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GreenHorn
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Who would maintain the really park nice they build? The park crew that can't build their own 15 foot jumps? Good idea but not realistic...
Jul 17 2013 1:35PM
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rockersteez
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I feel like some of the time just seeing a properly built park there would help motivate people to keep it that way. You'd also have to held show them how to build and maintain the park.

But yeah I'm with you just thought it was a cool idea for the thought.
Jul 17 2013 2:32PM
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Nashoba_Parks
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A lot of thought went into these comments... I am pretty impressed.
Jul 23 2013 7:48PM
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Wolfgang.
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My home mountain would be a candidate.
Jul 23 2013 8:13PM
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RyCo19
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My thoughts exactly. I always forget how much NS can surprise you with its creativity / ability for semi-serious debate.

This is a dope idea, but I agree with the comments about difficulty with viewership. I'm assuming the initial cost plus the maintenance would be pretty considerable, and I don't know how much marketing value would come out of it.

Maybe if a bunch of companies in the ski/snowsports industry all teamed up and joint funded it? I dunno. Good exposure and a solid example of a "charity cause" for the companies might be worth the few grand they'd be donating.

Also, location would be key. I think OP nailed it on the head -- it would have to be a mountain with a LARGE local park population and just a really shitty/poorly maintained/neglected park.
Jul 23 2013 8:15PM
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BBurt
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Nice icon.
Jul 23 2013 9:09PM
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rylee.the.jedi
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I feel like my home mountain would be perfect. Everyone keeps telling the park crew that the park is shit and they just keep making the features more shitty.
Jul 23 2013 9:17PM
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p.hawks
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would be awesome, make it an nstv thing, get companies to donate/sponsor, I'm sure plenty of local people would be able to dig for a day. It would be a great way to help bring freeskiing to the masses, or at least improve the parks for a lot of people who wouldn't have access to otherwise progress.
Jul 23 2013 10:07PM
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Tyler-49
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for this to work we need a slightly gay host with great hair... my recommendation steve stept? or maybe... splice?
Jul 24 2013 12:43AM
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HolySchimmel
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Solid Idea! Would maybe also make a nice part of a movie. some pro crew comes in, reshapes the park and hosts an epic session
Jul 24 2013 2:09AM
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Static
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The easiest way to do it would be to find an area that's planning to revamp their park anyway and just fake it like every other reality show.
Jul 24 2013 6:03AM
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steezburgereddie
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the lift in out terrain park doesnt work so they moved three features and made a pile of snow for a jump. and going to another place isnt an option unless you want to travel at least 600 km. i think my hill might be a good place to start.
Jul 25 2013 1:40AM
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rockersteez
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The point is to find a way to make the parks better more than make billions on a reality show. I feel like there would be enough core companies and good builders who would be down to make it happen. It wouldn't take a ton of funding, there would be people out there willing to do it for free.


Would it ever be a giant success on TLC? Probably not but I feel it could help some mountains both in the ones that get fixed, and other mountains gaining some ideas.
Jul 28 2013 2:48PM
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Static
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oh i thought the point was to just make an interesting show to watch about a park getting revamped, ok, well I won't offer anymore suggestions seeing as I'm so far off base from what you want.
Jul 29 2013 11:06AM
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CaptainObvious.
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Just don't tell them you like butterflies.

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Jul 29 2013 11:21AM
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roddy116
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hahahahah what ever happened to that show.

also i think it is a cool idea, but lets face it, it would be hard to sell this show to the average person.
Jul 29 2013 11:32AM
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theabortionator
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So I was thinking about the idea again. Trying to figure out if there's any way it would realistically be doable. I've been dabbling in ways to get around the problems for the last couple years. (Up in what's left of my brain)

With most people being full on work mode at mountains in the winter it would be tough. Also everybody needing to do their own rail building/fixing in the fall and getting things ready to go.

Also would the public see it as putting some places on the right track, improving parks, and motivating other places to do the same or would it end up being seen as unfair to hook some places up when you realistically can't to it for every mountain.

Maybe helping the mountain get a park crew together, or helping to teach an existing park crew how to set things up and maintain it and keep the park nice.

Then travel expenses could fuck with things. Personally I don't think I'd want to do much at any place too close to where I'm working now. Maybe that's a shitty way of looking at it but I've put a lot of time in where I'm at, even a full year volunteer, some of my own materials, and I'm working on getting people out still. I wouldn't want to build a fancy park in the same region and take people away.

That brings me back to what I was saying earlier about would people end up resenting it because it helps some places but can't help everyone or would they be cool with it?

I'd be willing to volunteer with people and build some stuff. Go to the mountain and set things up, get a nice park built.

I feel like there would be ski companies and maybe other outsiders that would be down to donate toward funding some features and a new park for a mountain. Especially if the work is volunteer and it's keeping kids stoked I think that aspect would be doable.

Could maybe have a contest to choose the places that really need it.

Idk, this could be another one of my ridiculous utopian ideas but maybe it's workable.


I appreciate all the feedback so far.
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