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johnnyBuz
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Does anyone have a video of a switch underflip or switch underflip 5? I can't find anything on YouTube. It seems like it would be a pretty badass trick I'm gonna try to learn it at MHSSC this Summer.
May 3 2013 8:32PM
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JackJohnSki
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Do you mean a switch rodeo 5?
May 3 2013 8:35PM
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johnnyBuz
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No, a switch Lincoln Loop + 180 (aka underflip). Can't find one anywhere on Youtube.
May 3 2013 8:50PM
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johnnyBuz
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Basically these plus another 180' rotation so that you land facing down the mountain.



May 3 2013 8:54PM
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Miomo
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Those are both switch rodeos with a wrong video title. I know what an underflip is, though.
May 3 2013 10:06PM
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DeRizzo
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Jore represent!
May 3 2013 10:07PM
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JackJohnSki
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Yeah, exactly; which is a switch rodeo. As were the videos you posted. Those were switch rodeo 3's, and what you are describing is a switch rodeo 5
May 3 2013 10:07PM
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Miomo
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No, he's not, because a switch rodeo is off axis
May 3 2013 10:08PM
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JackJohnSki
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Either way, there are way too many trick names, axis tricks, slang to keep track of.
May 3 2013 10:16PM
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.Matt.
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what session are you going to?!
May 3 2013 10:23PM
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johnnyBuz
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I don't understand ... how can there be a regular underflip and a regular rodeo 5 but a switch underflip is the same thing as a switch rodeo 5?

To me, a Lincoln Loop + 180 seems to be pretty different from a Rodeo 5 so why aren't they separate tricks when thrown switch?

The way TJ describes this is nowhere close to how I throw my Lincoln's.


May 3 2013 10:32PM
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BASEDRILEY
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You mean like this?
May 3 2013 10:34PM
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johnnyBuz
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YES! That's exactly what I was looking for. The difference between a Lincoln and a Rodeo seems to be that the Lincoln is fully inverted. But yah this trick looks sexy as fuck I'd love to see it nice and floaty over a bigger jump.
May 3 2013 10:43PM
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BASEDRILEY
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thanks man that was me in the video. But thats a switch rodeo its just really flippy.
May 3 2013 10:45PM
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elinde
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think about it. a switch rod 5 is like a misty motion as if you were going forward. and the corresponding trick to misty is an overflip, but no one ever says that, because misty 5 and overflip are the same thing. so now you are going backwards, that misty 5 becomes a switch rod 5, so your overflip becomes a switch underflip. it just looks identical to a switch rodeo 5
May 3 2013 11:53PM
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BASEDRILEY
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WAT
May 3 2013 11:59PM
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Jewschoolers
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does not compute
May 4 2013 12:12AM
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johnnyBuz
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I still think there is a difference between the underflip and rodeo 5 though. Like, sometimes when I throw a Lincoln I throw it more flatter and tucked. Other times, I throw it like this where it is real straightened out and fully inverted.

Are you guys telling me if I were to throw this switch it would no longer be a switch lincoln but a switch rodeo instead? And if I were to add a 180 it would be a sw rodeo 5 and not a sw underflip 5? Nothing about my body motion in the air reminds me of a rodeo (which I've never even tried on a tramp or snow).


May 4 2013 12:19AM
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BASEDRILEY
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you are right there is a difference, the difference is when u do a rodeo you are spinngin the same way when you underflip you flip then spin the opposite way.
May 4 2013 1:29AM
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BA.berger
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Andreas Håtveit - 2 runs på Fonna from Øystein Bråten on Vimeo.

The first trick is called ''funkyflip'' I dont know if you can call it a sw under flip though..
May 4 2013 10:07AM
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FigNewton
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BOOM
May 4 2013 11:09AM
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Freeskier_boi
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Agreed.
May 4 2013 11:50AM
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Miomo
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That is absolutely nothing like a sw underflip.
May 4 2013 12:40PM
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johnnyBuz
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How? He's riding switch and does 90' turn, Lincoln Loop and another 90' turn. Sounds like an underflip to me.
May 4 2013 12:44PM
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Miomo
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No he doesn't. He does a Lincoln Loop and then a 180.
May 4 2013 12:57PM
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e~b
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it doesnt really matter what you call it as long as you know what you want to do
May 4 2013 1:18PM
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elinde
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sorry if that was confusing, its hard to explain over the internet. the point was a sw underflip and sw rod 5 would look the same
May 4 2013 2:07PM
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troupe
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first shot after the waka intro.


May 4 2013 4:08PM
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johnnyBuz
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That's another good example. I feel like at the end of the day the difference between a lot of these tricks is minimal (ie: <45' rotation/off axis). If I can learn something close to this this Summer at camp I will be happy -- I don't really give a fuck what it is called to be honest.
May 4 2013 4:09PM
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Miomo
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Switch overflip
May 4 2013 4:12PM
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whateverman
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I can't embed I'm on mobile but Eric pollard seems to do one at 4:11 here http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=FvNRVE41l0s&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFvNRVE41l0s P.S. check out 3:52 for a sick cork 3 or check the whole edit if you're that cool Double P.S. if someone embedded this for me it would be awesome
May 5 2013 12:33AM
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ShredMasterPlus
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Well not a underflip at all but a pretty damn sexy overflip from mike wilson. That is all.

May 5 2013 1:21AM
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auski
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The one that sticks in my head is Candide in Ski Movie 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQuCJLlxyZo

At 1:03

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May 5 2013 3:03AM
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Puzzled
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sw overflip = underflip?
May 5 2013 7:10AM
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MACK.
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Here you go
May 5 2013 11:00AM
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joris.blanc
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Something like this ?
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May 5 2013 12:58PM
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Beef_Sister
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Not bad i learned that when i was 10
May 5 2013 1:03PM
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The-RZA-Of-Ski
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Looks more like a switch cork 5 to me...
May 5 2013 1:16PM
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ttw32174
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Jesus guys you don't know the difference in your tricks??? A backflip a front flip and a Lincoln are all done in a straight axis: your legs go OVER YOUR HEAD. So a flair, front flair, and under flip means your skis go over your head when youre rotating. What makes a rodeo and a misty different is that there is no straight axis you're rotating in: your feet make a circular arc around you and NEVER GO OVER YOUR HEAD, despite being a flip trick. And finally a cork or bio are a regular spin that you throw off axis once you're already in the air.

Hope this helps on a basic level, but really when you get to mhssc see what your coaches say on how to throw it to achieve that.. To throw those tricks differently from each other can be tricky and I'd explain but itd be easier if you're doing it on a tramp in front of them so they can give you pointers.
May 5 2013 2:05PM
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KingTaco
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this man is absolutely correct although the explanation is a little iffy.

oddly enough i was thinking about today and there is actually no such thing as a switch underflip. to figure out why you need to loosely define the difference between a rodeo and an undy

ok loosely without getting into crazy specifics:
rodeo: flip over your shoulder in one direction, spin the opposite direction
undy: flip over your shoulder in one direction, spin the same direction


you can go switch and do a rodeo. If you try to hit a jump switch, filp over your shoulder, and spin in the same direction the trick becomes a switch OVERflip. thats just the way it is. you use the pop of the jump when youre going switch rather than UNDERmining the pop of the jump when you approach regular
May 5 2013 7:54PM
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KingTaco
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14 seconds in. if the trick was done forward it would be an underflip, since its done switch its an overflip

May 5 2013 7:57PM
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