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Pink floyd is the greatest band of all time

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.squirrely.
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that is all
Apr 2 2013 6:33PM
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stokedelic
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i can completely agree that slane castle is a damn good show, and frusciante is a damn good guitarist, but overall the peppers are nothing special.
Apr 16 2013 11:58AM
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Algebra
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JON, EAT A DICK
Apr 16 2013 12:09PM
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Arabian
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While Ram is little known (though undeserving in my opinion), Band on the Run adn his first album are almost universally praised. Hell, even pitchfork (satan's editorial website incarnate) gave it a good score. http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16651-ram/
Apr 16 2013 12:27PM
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tmills
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Pink is amazing
Apr 16 2013 1:58PM
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Arabian
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I listen to plenty of music that I would never consider to be top tier. I do find, however, that putting music in proper context and being able to remain functionally objective while critiquing music makes the whole thing richer. Also, it makes it very easy to see who's faking or ripping off whom. For instance, I know for a fact that Elliott Smith and Jeff Buckley are never going to be in the running for top 20 bands/artists of all time, but that doesn't stop them from being in my top 5. You are always entitled to the music you enjoy, but when you assert "ZOMG DIS BEST B@ EVAR!!!11!one", then you should get fucked unless you can back up your claim.
Apr 16 2013 2:12PM
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.qzyxya
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Apr 16 2013 2:16PM
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Zimmerman
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Music is subjective. But it isn't 100% subjective in my opinion.

I separate music into two categories: "Good" music and "fun" music. There is some grey area, but not much.

Once you take artists and categorize them as either good or fun, it becomes 100% subjective.
Apr 16 2013 4:29PM
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TheClap.
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LOL
Apr 16 2013 4:36PM
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Zimmerman
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objective* oops I ate my autism-o's today
Apr 16 2013 4:39PM
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saskskier
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Where do you put the bad music? Nickleback, theory of a deadman, simple plan, etc are neither good or fun.
Apr 16 2013 5:34PM
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Zimmerman
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These aren't just categories for me. They apply to everyone. Those would all go to the "fun" catagory. Some people might like them, but there is no possible argument that Nickelback or Drake is actually good music.


Apr 16 2013 5:41PM
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Bateman
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Nickelback, Lil Wayne and Nicki Minaj > Pink Floyd.

Pink Floyd is for old people. Yuck!
Apr 16 2013 6:04PM
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.squirrely.
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after reading the thread i have changed my mind one direction is the greatest band ever
Apr 16 2013 6:07PM
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Bateman
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:O ur a directioneer 2?
Apr 16 2013 6:12PM
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act.resist
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<3 JOBROS 5 EVUR
Apr 16 2013 6:16PM
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El_Barto.
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Agalloch is the greatest band ever
Apr 16 2013 6:17PM
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Arabian
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Common exchange of opinion and the exercise of debate skills? You tell me. I don't think music is subjective, since there is clearly good music and bad music, and this is agreed upon in every genre, by every critic there ever was. Sure, there may not be a best band, but there is a hierarchical structure in music that should be mapped out. Ignorance of this structure leads to repetition and devaluation of music as a whole, much like what we see with every generation' mainstream music.
Apr 16 2013 6:31PM
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Zimmerman
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Actually no, I had it fucking right the first time.
Apr 16 2013 11:47PM
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Zimmerman
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Provide a list of random artists and I'd be happy to put them into the two categories. If I did it on my own I'm afraid it'd be too easy to accuse me of simply putting music I like into the "good" category, which wouldn't necessarily be the case. For example, I love Blink-182, but it isn't good music by any means.
Apr 17 2013 8:47AM
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stokedelic
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i hate to sound like a douchebag hippie, but this is easily the most musically inclined thread ive seen on NS and am not minding some actual musical discussion as opposed to critiquing A$AP's new album which is 80% swear words and 5% ghetto noises.

so to (hopefully) keep this going, what are your guys thoughts on fleetwood mac? (pre stevie or not)
Apr 17 2013 11:22AM
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stokedelic
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from what ive heard nick drake is definitely above average, but as for television ive listened through both marquee moon and adventure now, and cant say either of them really tickle my balls. wanna point me in the right direction?
Apr 17 2013 11:29AM
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Arabian
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That depends on what genre you'd like to head into.
Apr 17 2013 12:05PM
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theabortionator
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In dropping some musical knowledge you did a shitty job. Maybe you just don't get pink floyd.


I don't really care about the who.


Hating pink floyd but loving zeppelin seems kind of what. And I don't hate zeppelin. I do agree on Bonham being one of the best drummers though.

As far as the chili peppers. If you like flea I would encourage you to check out fishbone. A band most people haven't heard of. Norwood from fishbone has some base skills and flea credits some of his skills to watching him play. Also last I knew Fusciante moved on from them.

Maybe you like composed solos less than the jam and that's fine, but Gilmour absolutely shreds composed solos. IMO Rick Wright did more for the art of keys than any of the dead keyboardists. As some of the stuff wouldn't have really meshed with there sound.

And BTW I love the dead.


Maybe it was just a troll idk. Fuck the hate rage the good music. Don't be a bitch post some tits.

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Apr 17 2013 12:25PM
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theabortionator
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I was saying personally. I wasn't going to rip on them I just said I don't really care about them.


That's better than the guy I replied to shitting on stuff. And buddy rich is at the top of my favorite drummers list over anyone mentioned or not mentioned.

And I dig the band. Wasn't trying to shit on anyone other than the post above.
Apr 17 2013 1:26PM
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theabortionator
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Depends. As long as they're big booty bitches.

And I figured, just one of those things that there's too many bands you just can't get into all of them, and you just prioritize them good ones.


Same with tits, you can't look at all the tits, so you prioritize the ones you want to see. Otherwise aint nobody got time for that
Apr 17 2013 1:36PM
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Huck_Norris
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Not really, I don't like Pink Floyd and I love Zeppelin. To me, Floyd has a tendency to bee too long winded and obnoxious just to look like they're so "out there". Zep has just a much more bluesy, rock and roll appeal that I find far more palatable. I mean there are just so many Floyd songs that have like a 2 minute synth solo that sucks or needless hippy-spinning oportunities that add nothing to the track.

Lemon Song > Welcome to the Machine


Apr 17 2013 1:37PM
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bobandy
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this is the whitest thread ever, I fucking love rock n roll.
Apr 17 2013 4:07PM
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bobandy
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You are completely wrong here. Some of the most talented instrumentalists, who excel in the "hierarchial structure of music" cannot write a song that sounds good, or pleases the listener. It is 100% subjective. It all depends on what you prioritize when listening. Sure, Bob Dylan didn't play his instrument that well, but people are listening to his music for his poetry and songwriting, not his guitar. It's the same argument for anyone who thinks that Steve Vai is the greatest guitar player of all time. There are far better solos than Stairway to Heaven, but its not just a stand alone solo, its the build up from a rock n roll ballad to a climax.

Also, any list of so called "greats" you see in fucking Rolling Stone are bullshit. They are compiled by 40-60 year old white males who live in a world of nostalgia for the glory years. If you are maintain the same taste in music for your whole life, then you probably aren't experiencing life to the fullest, in all aspects.


Apr 17 2013 4:21PM
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theabortionator
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Can we all at least agree that creed is in the top 10 for best bands ever?

Apr 17 2013 4:27PM
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Apr 17 2013 5:45PM
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Laurent.
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Another contender:


Apr 17 2013 6:01PM
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3000
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FUCK YOU
Apr 17 2013 7:22PM
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Arabian
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Agreed. They completely disown independent music and electronic music as schill.
Apr 17 2013 8:09PM
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Zimmerman
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http://thewallanalysis.com

Read through this site. Then you'll understand.
Apr 17 2013 11:29PM
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EmperorKuzco
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Bruce Springsteen
Apr 18 2013 12:33AM
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Jaggy_Snake
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This is relevant to this thread. Rather than create another....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22210378

RIP Storm.
Apr 18 2013 3:47PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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seriously though, you cant even compare anyone to pink floyd, they are so fucking original, no one is comparable to them. All they use is a synth guitars and keys and they manage to make such an astounding variety of sounds. The meaning of their lyrics, how each album is like one song (for the most part). It's music for the soul (as cheesey as that sounds) Pink floyd is the fucking best. That is a great way to weed out shitty people in life, if they dont like pink floyd you know they are a shitty person
Oct 21 2013 11:53PM
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Phil-X-
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are you guys kidding. Its so obvious who #1 is..

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Just kidding... But number one chef tho...

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Oct 22 2013 12:02AM
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SirBooley
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I agree OP. The 2-disc Pulse Live Album is probably my most listened group of songs ever. I love them so much.
Oct 22 2013 12:54AM
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I_liketobutter
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This thread is fucking awesome. So nice to hear a bunch of ns'ers some knowledge of real music.

Hendrix is my favorite from back then. What he did in such a short period of time is insane.

I'll throw some more recent stuff in here:
Radiohead
The Beta Band
Oct 22 2013 1:02AM
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tighthole69
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definitely agreed
Oct 22 2013 8:12AM
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Agamemnon
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Oct 22 2013 8:13AM
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theabortionator
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If david gilmour's guitar doesn't move you, you have no fucking soul.

Also rick wright was ahead of his time and is massively underrated/ overlooked because of the other members. RIP


If you ever get a chance check out "the machine". No gimmicks, no bullshit, just the music.
Oct 22 2013 9:04AM
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