Since I own them I think I am fit to answer this. They RIP the mountain, on crud you dont feel anything, they just plough right over it. THey are so solid and jhust feel great. In the park they feel amazing, landings feel more stomped, everything feels much more solid. The thing is, I wouldnt say they are a great carving ski if you want to do quick little turns, they are just good for like going fast and doing long turns. They definitely need to be driven more than previous skis I've had. However, I prefer it that way and I think if you know how to ski, so would you. They are great skis.