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2013/2014 ON3P

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[J_Gasper]
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I guess since the lineup is out, what are people gonna be buying?

Talk anything ON3P in here. Tech talk, Sizing issues, etc.


Ill start it off.



Im eyeing the Tychoon and Prester.
Jan 31 2013 9:38PM
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jordy19
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hated coming but theres already a thread for this
Jan 31 2013 9:41PM
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[J_Gasper]
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fuckk. didnt see one when i searched. link?
Jan 31 2013 9:44PM
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Thadius.Castle
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Not totally sold on On3P. I like the guys, they seem nice enough, but I just feel like I could get a ski of equal quality for less, blah blah blah. It'd be great to support the company, but the ski's are on the expensive side, being handmade, and out of top quality materials. I might be interested in the Filthy Riches though.
Jan 31 2013 9:49PM
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arammell
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Once you ski them you'll be sold. Buy them preseason or last years models if you're trying to save money. They're worth every penny in my opinion
Jan 31 2013 10:58PM
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Stose
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I'm really thinking about getting that new cambered park ski. Can't remember the name. But I've been on punx for the last 3 seasons which are pretty flexy and I'm not sure if i will like having a stiff park ski or not
Feb 1 2013 12:38AM
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[J_Gasper]
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If you like a playful park ski, id look into the FR. The prester looks sweet, but by the sounds of it, its pretty stiff. Then again, the prester has camber, while the FR has rocker. Your choice.
Feb 1 2013 6:55AM
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Crispy.
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Looking into the prester. Trying to decide between that, ar7s, and rossi scratches. The tip and tails look a bit funky though.
Feb 1 2013 7:27AM
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[J_Gasper]
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Height and weight? Ar7s will probably be much more playful.
Feb 1 2013 7:38AM
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Stose
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I might do that too. Thanks
Feb 1 2013 9:33AM
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Huck_Norris
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Trust me, I know we've butted heads on this before but as someone who has skied a lot of skis, ON3Ps are the shit. 

It's not just buying skis from good dudes and supporting an awesome startup although that is nice.  ON3P really does have the thickest edges and bases you can get.  Their bases are also flat as fuck from the factory which is more than I can say for a lot of other indie lines.  I have sent some sketchy ass lines over rocks and bullshit on ON3Ps that would have left all but a few completely ruined- but barely a scrape on the ON3Ps time and time again.  One instance is pretty crystallized in my mind- I took a break from them for a day once and rented some Dynastars the demo shop had just gotten in- returned them with no less than 6 core shots skiing the same lines.  It's not just hype.     

In my personal opinion it isn't so much that you're paying more for them as you are making an investment in your equipment.  Think about it- how many times have you heard of sollies and such delamming?  Now how many times have you heard of it happening to ON3Ps?  They almost never have breakages and I would venture to say their warranty claims are more akin to unicorn sightings than anything else.  It's not because people aren't skiing the shit out of them, it's because they are built to take on big skiing whereas big name brands are generally designed for a more pedestrian market. 

Also, they can be had for a relative song and dance when bought used, which I would still call a better deal than brand new chinese skis from Solly or K2 etc.  Not that there's anything wrong with buying a ski made in china, it's just not on my bag as I'd rather support "local" people who build the best ski possible, not the most profitable ones.  IMO you can support conventional thought, or you can support people pushing the envelope.  I choose the latter.  Perhaps in time you will too. Until then though, I would just do my best to get on a pair to try.  After all, skiing is believing :)

Feb 1 2013 10:06AM
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Mr_pretzel
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They are defiantly not that expensive compared to other brands.
The only reason people say that is cause they almost never go on sale.

The skis are great, but not for everyone. It takes a skier with at least some skill to be able to really enjoy these skis. So i get kinda worried when they are brought up in every what ski thread. (Coming from one of the biggest on3p dicksuckers)

The new skis are sexy as fuck.

C&Ds are amazing, jmos, viciks, presters. Looking forward to picking up a pair.
Feb 1 2013 11:09AM
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I_liketobutter
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I'd like to try them, but until they make a truly soft ski, I'll look elsewhere.
Feb 1 2013 11:28AM
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Thadius.Castle
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Valid points. And yes, we have butted heads but thank's for a logical, and reasonable explanation. I mean, I'm not opposed to what they stand for, or what they make, I've really only even heard good thing's, it was just the cost part. But you have to put good in (a little more $$) to get good out. And that makes sense, if I wasn't so dead set on Chronics next year, as said above I would really consider the Filthy Riches lol. I still may, but the Chronics are 100$ cheaper, and I've heard only good things about them as well, and I have a serious hard-on for line.
Feb 1 2013 11:33AM
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arammell
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Agreed!
Feb 1 2013 1:20PM
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Blake.P
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My caylors started to delam. And it was in the tail when I would never land switch on them. It was an easy fix though. Just saying it can still happen
Feb 1 2013 2:21PM
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Shifties4Dayz
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ride a pair of on3ps, and you will be sold. Im on my second pair of Jmos in 4 years and i couldnt be happier. they might be a little expensive, but trust me, the quality is top notch. and you are getting a ski made IN THE USA, not in some factory in asia.
Feb 1 2013 2:59PM
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Crispy.
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Do you think that the flex of ON3ps new camber ski will be about the same as the scratch, or stiffer?
Feb 1 2013 6:12PM
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GPO
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wanne know this too
Feb 1 2013 7:19PM
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Crispy.
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But, i'm 6'1" 165, I'm kind of leaning towards the on3p's though because of their quality and customer service and the not so great experiences with armada skis durability.
Feb 1 2013 7:23PM
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wrenegade
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I'm trying to justify new C&Ds and Wrenegades to myself. Is 7 pairs of ON3Ps too much or just the right amount? lol.
Feb 1 2013 7:35PM
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[J_Gasper]
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Im not familiar with the scratch's. And to be honest, im not to familiar with the prester since it just came out. But it sounds like its pretty stiff. Id imagine there also more stable than the FR's at high speeds, but not as playful.
Feb 1 2013 8:06PM
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Jewschoolers
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not enough
Feb 1 2013 8:16PM
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AndyGreen
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7 more than me :(
Feb 2 2013 12:23AM
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charmander
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I'll probably pick up something, all depends on the $ situation, im buying 4frnt renegades for sure but i can proform those, might be getting some protests and dynafit stuff. ugh my inner gear whore :/
Feb 2 2013 1:43AM
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charmander
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^ I love my caylors, they might go on the market though, I want a 191 not a 181 now...

ON3P has had bomber shit from the start, mine were in the 1st wave of production and were every bit as good as any big name ski operation
Feb 2 2013 2:26AM
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Inline.
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I almost tore something in my knee coming out of a cliff on my 4frnt CRJ's when i hit some chop and a traverse after landing. My skis were just not stable enough to handle that speed. Are the Caylors more stable than the Jeffreys? I'm looking into a primarily-powder-but-some all-mountain ski. I'm deciding between the Caylor and the Jeffrey. What is the more stable ski for powder and some chop? Sorry if this is written horribly. I am miserably sleep deprived.
Feb 2 2013 3:36AM
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rudager
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Love my Billy Goats this season, I'm upset I haven't been on them at all lately since I've been so damn busy.
I'm thinking of selling the set up (191 BG w/Guardian), and getting something lighter for touring.
Looking at either the BG Tour or Wrenegade for next season. Just something a little lighter than the current set up. Probably will have tech bindings on it.

On top of that, probably will pick up a pair of Caylors or Jefferys, for the jibby/deep mountain days I'm not out touring.

Also love my Filthy Riches, but have had a lot less park this season than last year or before, so they haven't been out at all really.
Feb 2 2013 8:13AM
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holytoast
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I have Ar7's right now but i would buy an ON3P just for shits nd gigs just because i know how sick of a ski i would be getting an hey, i guess the pillowfight is discontinued for this year?
Feb 2 2013 8:24AM
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[J_Gasper]
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Shit. I never really noticed that. Im not suprised though. I cant imagine they made to much money off of them. Not to many people other than true ON3P customers wanted them due to their high price. They also have a pretty specific role, unlike all of their other skis.
Feb 2 2013 10:55AM
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Matt_Rossi
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Whats the flex pattern in the FR's, I really like softer skis, I currently ride Rossignol Scimitars, How do they compare?
Feb 2 2013 11:17AM
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DrZoidberg
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The wolf graphic is probably one of the best ever. The FRs look pretty rockered, I thought they had less.
Feb 2 2013 11:49AM
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Jaggy_Snake
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As far as I'm aware. The Filthy Rich hasn't changed since it's release since it's inception back in the 11/12 season. Apart from the graphic, obviously.
Feb 2 2013 3:11PM
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Crispy.
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Haven't rode Scimitars, but the FR are pretty soft in the tip and tail, and above average stiff underfoot.
Feb 2 2013 11:20PM
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[J_Gasper]
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I think they made slight changes from 11/12 to 12/13, but absolutely no changes for next year.
Feb 2 2013 11:35PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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might want to get the jeronimo or maybe the filthy rich. is there a huge difference in flex between the skis?
Feb 2 2013 11:39PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Lots to reply to here and my time here is short till we're back in Denver, but questions I can answer:

- Prester is stiffer than the Scratch
- Wren, 7 pairs is completely justifiable, as long as you ride them all at least once a year
- Caylor trucks like a mo-fo through crud, I used it as my everyday ski for an entire season, one of our new guys (Ryan) has used 181 Caylors as his only ski for two years, and he just built himself another set with some new materials we're testing. Jeffrey is obviously a bit more nimble on snow and in the air, choose accordingly based on needs!
- Pillowfight is not discontinued, we didnt bring it to SIA because we were not happy with the finish quality on the pairs we pressed for SIA, and I dont show or sell a ski thats not the best we can make. We'll have our own little release party for it, and the 13/14 is definitely different than anything I've yet seen so far here at the show.
Feb 2 2013 11:59PM
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Obi-Wan-Jenobi
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When we these be available for the purchases.
Feb 6 2013 7:17PM
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Crispy.
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Probably not till summer...assuming they're having a presale which I've heard is doubtable.
Feb 6 2013 10:35PM
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MrLarsen
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My 191 Wrens don't really feel a whole lot lighter than my 191 BGs. I'm guessing BG Tour will be that way to go.

I too love my BGs by the way! Perfect everyday ski for BC wouldn't you say? ;)

And Rowen: I'm thinking about moving the bindings on my 11/12 191 Wrens a couple of cm forward from the recommended line to get a little bit more of a centered feel, and possibly a little bit more of a oversteering feel to them. (this of course also means replacing the battered and broken Jesters with FKS180) Any comments on this, other than "They ski best at recommended"?
Feb 6 2013 11:22PM
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Powness
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Sent a email to the ON3P crew for about 2-3 weeks ago, and still haven't recieved a answer, so im just wondering what normal eta on the response is? Sent to the Info at on3pskis.com mail.
Feb 7 2013 12:53PM
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Jaggy_Snake
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They've been busy with SIA last week. They are normally really good at answering emails (least with the ones that I've sent them).

Don't fret, they'll reply.

Better yet, post it in here, someone may even be able to answer it!
Feb 7 2013 1:01PM
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TWoods
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We've been at SIA for the last two weeks, sorry man. Feel free to re-send the email.
Feb 7 2013 1:47PM
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50Kal
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Will the prester be stiffer that the Ar7 or the volkl wall?
Also what are the Dimension and turning radius on the Prester?

Feb 10 2013 11:04PM
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[J_Gasper]
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It will definitely be stiffer than the AR7
Feb 10 2013 11:13PM
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Cincher
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I have my eye on the Jeronimo's, coming from the Anthems, I really like a wide Park ski and have been looking for one that actually has rocker in it so I can hit everywhere on the mountain without needing to switch up to a powder ski if I were to come into deeper snow....whenever that may be that I get to ski a real mountain.
Feb 11 2013 12:10AM
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VD.
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Anyone know what the weight on the 186 Vicik tours is?
Feb 11 2013 6:31AM
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*jwill*
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hey everyone, im keen to get a on3p powder ski but nto sure what to get, does anyone know if the caylor is going to be available in 176cm? i just feel that the 171cm will be to shourt and the 181cm will be to long.

(im also looking at the jeffery and bg. I just cant decide which one.)
Feb 11 2013 9:58AM
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HWW
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if you think 171 is too short, i doubt that the 181 will be too long. especially in powder it's nice to have more length.
Feb 11 2013 10:16AM
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50Kal
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what your size, weight and style (do you go switch powder)?  I have this years BG and they are awesome if you want a directional powder ski. You might be able to get this year BG or jeff cheap when they go on the end of the season sale.  
Feb 11 2013 11:12AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Caylors, Wrens, or BGs if I love to charge hard through any type of snow...?
Feb 11 2013 11:17AM
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