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Did skiing just die? Is there any more room for progression?

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hwagner
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I mean when quads go down people are gonna die... what hasnt been done that can be? #thoughts
henrik will be the killer of skiing but also go down as god
Jan 27 2013 12:40AM
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LoathesRaisins
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Nose Butter Double/Triple Rodeo
Jan 27 2013 12:41AM
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LIL_WAT
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rightside trips
Jan 27 2013 12:42AM
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iFlip
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We can just keep building bigger and bigger jumps, with steeper and steeper angles. Then we'll get to aerials and realize that people have been doing this stuff on skis for a very long time.
Jan 27 2013 12:43AM
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hwagner
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so its alive for 3... maybe 4 more years?
Jan 27 2013 12:43AM
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wasatch_rat
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switch rightside butter dub 9 with a sick grab. or a 270 onto a downrail one foot to one foot surface switchup 2 out. or spread eagle onto a box but bounce your pole off it when your in the air. or literally anything else. of course there will be progression, its skiing.
Jan 27 2013 12:44AM
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PoopDollar
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People said the same shit when triples hadn't been done yet.... then henrik just dropped that shit.
Jan 27 2013 12:47AM
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hwagner
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snowblades ftw
Jan 27 2013 12:47AM
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Steeze_Minister
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switch tail butter corks
Jan 27 2013 12:49AM
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iFlip
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Not taking anything away from him or his trick. It was sick. Just pointing out that skiing has already "progressed" much farther than what we see in the park. Skiers going off jumps have done stuff far crazier than anything we see in X-Games.
Jan 27 2013 12:49AM
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FerrisBueller
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IF ANYTHING SKIING HAS BEGUN THE STEP TOWARDS TO OPPOSITE OF DYING
Jan 27 2013 12:51AM
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hwagner
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when is it going to get too crazy, will there be a moment where comp park skiing stops. will moguls make a comeback if this happens?
Jan 27 2013 12:52AM
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LoathesRaisins
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Well theres the triple rodeo...

Jan 27 2013 12:56AM
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S-S-K
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tail butter triples
Jan 27 2013 12:58AM
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hwagner
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nahh
Jan 27 2013 12:59AM
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Chubz.
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I cannot wait for these..
Jan 27 2013 1:02AM
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crab_pretzel
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if quads were banned from aerials skiing, i guarentee we'll never get there
Jan 27 2013 1:03AM
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spliff.Life
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first? sammy c was the first...
Jan 27 2013 1:07AM
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LoathesRaisins
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At X-Games?
Jan 27 2013 1:07AM
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bighomieflock
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Why do so many people think that freeskiing will fade when there is no more rapid progression? Take sports like bmx or skating for example. Each year in park or street skating there are rarely many mind blowing new tricks but the sport continues to be interesting by taking tricks to new spots or new skateparks. We will always see some progression in skiing and new styles and new jumps will keep the sport interesting to watch long after it seems like everything has been done.
Jan 27 2013 1:41AM
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Dirty.Harry.
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If you don't mind, I'm just gonna go step into my Dynafits and peacefully skin up something. I'll leave the large jumps to those who prefer man-made snow.
Jan 27 2013 1:41AM
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The-RZA-Of-Ski
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of course no
Jan 27 2013 1:49AM
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BMillerrr
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I see both sides, this keeps up progressing as a sport but also makes it a survival of the fittest kind of a thing
Jan 27 2013 1:50AM
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k-fred
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triple cork 10, nose butter triple cork truck driver, you know that kind of shit.
Jan 27 2013 1:53AM
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*ninja*
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Urban will never die
Jan 27 2013 2:52AM
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FerrisBueller
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epic phrase
Jan 27 2013 3:22AM
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FerrisBueller
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the possibilities are endless



think how cool a switch in - tail butter triple cork 1620 stalefish to bow and arrow would look




im talking like 2020 in a slope comp
Jan 27 2013 3:25AM
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FerrisBueller
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doable, only if you mob in switch, tail butter 180 (opposite the way dollo does)
Jan 27 2013 3:26AM
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Stickity
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are you aware how blatantly obvious that is? how else would you tail butter?
Jan 27 2013 3:56AM
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snakerton
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I wouldnt be suprised it we see quads within the next 5 years. It wasnt even that long ago when people thought doubles were the most amazing let alone triples. As of tonight, triples are a thing. We wont be shocked to see a triple. Just like when we see dubs, theyre amazing but not shocking.

So yes, there will be more progression.
Jan 27 2013 4:09AM
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Culture+
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quad cork 18 the jump would have to be big .... really big but skiing is all about creativity my friend
Jan 27 2013 10:56AM
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zbphoto
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I like they way you think!
Jan 27 2013 11:13AM
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*DrewT*
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well schlopy almost landed a 1980 so we might be seeing a bit more progression towards higher technicality (either an extra rotation or an extra flip) but I'd imagine athletes will be asking for a bit more air time. Jumps can only get so much bigger (there are limits to the human body) and will need to get steeper angles moreso than longer gaps. I'll admit it was incredible to see big air last night but I think even Douglas found himself thinking about how close it was to ariels. Little things like stance on the landing were having huge impacts on score, and as stylish as say Harlaut's rodeo 7 was it was all about the number of rotations you did on whatever axis you are spinning on.

To get some idea of what is left to be done in big air we can just look at ariels, throw off axis rotations, switch stance, grabs and butters/hand-drags/carves/etc.
Arielists do tricks like double-full,full,double-full which would translate to triple 2880 the way that we count flips as spins.
Jan 27 2013 11:49AM
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Stose
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Sw trips, left and right side. A bunch of variations, not just corks. More common flips onto rails, dubs off, definitely more room for spinning. Someday quads though
Jan 27 2013 11:52AM
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nagger
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no bobby brown and russ henshaw were doing them first at the msp jump in alaska in 2010, sammy did one in summer 2010 I'm pretty sure. I could be wrong
Jan 27 2013 11:54AM
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Stose
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No you're right
Jan 27 2013 12:08PM
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willyg0808
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Progression? Innovation? Apparently you haven't seen
Jan 27 2013 12:20PM
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illewminati
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boom. skiing's future will split into two different "groups"- the future spinning robots and the urban/creative/style skiers. And i think we will see quads/spinnier triples in the very near future(like 4-6 years)
Jan 27 2013 12:28PM
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jwv
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The death of freeskiing is very different than the slowing of progression. The slowing of progression isn't always a bad thing, just look at skating. It will force skiing to be more style oriented and more creative. My prediction is after everyone learns triples and can do them both sides, people will start to turn away from comp skiing and more crews like Stept and Real SkiFi will emerge, doing really creative, stylish, outside the box sort of tricks.
Jan 27 2013 12:29PM
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nomensteven
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I remember the same thread after this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hen1v4c07gY
Jan 27 2013 12:30PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Big Air with Telemarks
Jan 27 2013 12:31PM
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Steeze_Minister
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lol at the fact that 10 years ago mens halfpipe skiing was still ahead of where womens is now
Jan 27 2013 12:34PM
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DeRizzo
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skiing won't just "stop progressing". It will continue to progress every year with new ideas and ways to do tricks.
Jan 27 2013 12:45PM
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Nowison
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The X-Games will die out before Skiing progression does.

Skiing is so much more than just big-airs and half-pipes...
Jan 27 2013 12:50PM
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OGHolliday
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I don't know shit about skateboarding really, but I'm pretty sure they aren't adding a lot more spins and flips to their tricks, but I'm pretty sure we can all attest to the fact they are certainly still progressing. Skiing will do the same I'm sure.
Jan 27 2013 12:51PM
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Dr.Gonzo
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What matters more is that I will still have progression for decades to come.
Jan 27 2013 12:56PM
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ChasingFlakes
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yes siiiir!
Jan 27 2013 12:59PM
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cheaaaaaa
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dont forget that last night we saw octo dubs and screamin dubs... not JUST triples

progression is stopped when what was done in the previous year is at the same level as the current. this hasn't happened and i don't think it will any time soon
Jan 27 2013 1:18PM
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Parks.
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triples does not mean that progression stops at all.... there is still so much room in all disciplines of skiing
Jan 27 2013 1:20PM
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curt_
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Jan 27 2013 1:22PM
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casual
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Who gives a shit? As long as it's still fun to put headphones on, and get weird, skiing won't die.
Jan 27 2013 1:24PM
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