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FAA grounds Boeing 787 fleet

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volvotom
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In the midst of several electrical and battery related issues, FAA has ordered the entire 787 fleet grounded pending further investigation of the issues, following Japanese airlines ANA and JAL who also grounded their fleets in recent days. My dad works there and we have a lot of Boeing stock. Looks like that's gonna suck for me.
Jan 16 2013 6:50PM
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corona
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no more allowance?
Jan 16 2013 7:37PM
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volvotom
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More like he probably will retire later with less money.
Jan 16 2013 7:41PM
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iSmokeweed
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duuuuuude, i never got to ride on one
Jan 16 2013 7:44PM
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PacificRimJob
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Bring back the concorde?
Jan 16 2013 7:45PM
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theschneidler
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These will always be better:
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Jan 16 2013 7:50PM
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7springsprod
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Jan 16 2013 7:53PM
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volvotom
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An old, cramped 737 that is probably a decade older than comparable aircraft from other airlines? No thanks. They are cheap though, I will give them that. And friendly.
Jan 16 2013 7:53PM
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theschneidler
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BUT IT'S SHAPED LIKE A GODDAMN ORCA WHALE
Jan 16 2013 7:58PM
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corona
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so it's gonna suck for your dad. and other workers. not you.
Jan 16 2013 8:00PM
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smooticus
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The airlines already bought the planes. I doubt boeing will lose much over this, there are some really brilliant people there. They will find the problem and solve it soon enough. Gotta keep in mind that its really only a minor electrical problem, when your talking about commercial airlines, even a small issue will ground a plane.
Jan 16 2013 8:19PM
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RockyMountnHigh
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This whole thread is rich white boy problems.
Jan 16 2013 8:38PM
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JAHpow
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No, it's painted like one. All 737s are shaped the same.
Jan 16 2013 8:39PM
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volvotom
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This post lacks a basic understanding of how airline finance works. Generally the way the contracts work out, you pay a fee to "order" a plane and then wait in line for it to be your turn to actually deliver the plane, at which point you either pay cash (or another finance entity pays cash or you make payments through Boeing finance. An issue like this could cause many outstanding orders (2 or 3 hundred) to be cancelled. That could have a devastating effect on Boeing's bottom line. Further, it's a little more than a "minor electrical problem." A little smoke on the Tarmac is no big deal, a little smoke at 38,000 over the pacific somewhere between LA and Tokyo is. The big deal here is that Boeing outsourced not just component production, but also a lot of systems integration, something they had never done before. The results have been problem after problem and delay after delay. An engineer who works in management like my dad will be fine, you can trust that after the disaster the 787 project has been so far that Boeing will through every available asset at it.
Jan 16 2013 8:40PM
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corona
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a 200 series is shaped different than a 400 series..
Jan 16 2013 8:40PM
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Rafiki
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does your dad work out of state then?
Jan 16 2013 8:47PM
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skiminnesota
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because the stock is down 3% in one day? dont get your panties in too large a bunch.


come back to me if this trend continues. this is the markets initial reaction, they could have the birds flying again in a week for all we know.

my father is slated to take a 20% paycut this year, with having his company matching 401k gutted.
Jan 16 2013 8:52PM
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DUKES
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retire with less money......you must have a small as amount of stock
Jan 16 2013 8:55PM
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JAHpow
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Yeah but it's not shaped like an orca
Jan 16 2013 8:56PM
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volvotom
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Long Beach office. He's in Modifications Systems Engineering.
Jan 16 2013 9:09PM
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volvotom
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My fear is that these problems are not isolated, but evidence of systemic problems relating to the outsource not just of components, but of systems integration. There's a great article talking about it here: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/15/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20110215 (can't hyperlink on iPad)
Jan 16 2013 9:14PM
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DrZoidberg
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I was on a 757 last saturday, and they had this whole video on how magnificent the 787s are. Wonder if I'll see it on the return flight, I'm thinking not.
Jan 16 2013 9:20PM
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JAHpow
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Btw, I saw the Dreamliner at its public unveil at Oshkosh Airventure.
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Jan 16 2013 9:21PM
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profa_212
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Saw this exact movie on my flight on Friday. Didn't see it on my flight yesterday lol.
Jan 16 2013 9:24PM
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volvotom
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Probably will, the airlines don't swap out those videos very often. I'm assuming you flew United?
Jan 16 2013 9:25PM
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skiminnesota
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yawn. so did the other 10s of thousands of people including myself.


its a beautiful plane, cant wait to actually fly in one.
Jan 16 2013 9:52PM
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DrZoidberg
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Yep. Maybe they'll fix them, cause I want to fly one home, they're fancy as hell.
Jan 16 2013 11:16PM
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Dustin.
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An jet with a mechanical problem? Gee, never heard of that in my life.


Don't worry about it dude, seriously.
Jan 16 2013 11:41PM
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Heart
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I read somewhere that Boeing had the same issues with previous plane releases (i believe the 737 was specifically mentioned). When you're designing something as complicated as a plane things are bound to go wrong sometimes. Give them some time and I'm sure the kinks will get worked out and we'll all be happy as a clam flying in787's in the near future.
Jan 17 2013 12:17AM
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fujarome
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more accurately, a NEW jet with mechanical problems? Absolutely shocking.


it will take time to get all the little bugs out. Happens with every new plane.
Jan 17 2013 12:32AM
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volvotom
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On the very plus side, no 787 has crashed yet.
Jan 17 2013 1:16AM
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