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New Video - PC Morning

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eheath
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Hey guys, just put this together from shoot the other morning at PC. Stoked to use my new tripod and I think the shots came out really well. I also tried to push it real hard in the audio department too, unfortunately there was a lot of snowmobile noise but I tried to work around it. I'm sure the song has been use before but I can't think of a video I've seen it in, so sorry if I used a song you used :P. Also, went cine style on this but I also shot it that way and motion tracked some titles (the first is my favorite). let me know what you guys think.



Shot with fsb4 with miller solo legs and sony 18-200
Jan 11 2013 1:32AM
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kalum.ko
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I liked it man. Audio was clean from those lip shots, how far were you away and what mic you using? Didn't mind the background noise of the sleds at all either
Jan 11 2013 2:03AM
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Linked
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I liked the titles but I missed Karl fost's the first time I watched it, if you had moved to the left a bit and didn't' cut to the next shot so quickly it would have been better imo. Also some really tight shots would have been nice.
Jan 11 2013 2:11AM
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Linked
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move it to the right not the left
Jan 11 2013 2:14AM
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eheath
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Thanks man, I was probs 50-100 ft at any given time, depending on the shot, I just cranked my gain up. The landings I was much farther away, maybe 200 yards. As for mic, I use this sony shotgun mic that came with my camera.

@Linked glad you liked it too, more variety would've been awesome I agree but I shot by myself for 30-40 minutes so it was tough getting what I did ha. I also like the title being kind of hidden, but half the reason I went that direction with karls title was because the tracker was having hard time picking up good points since it was panning so fast. Thanks for the feedback though.
Jan 11 2013 2:17AM
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C.A.V.
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Never seize to Amaze me! Sick edit and loved the sounds , snow mobiles added to it I liked it!
Jan 11 2013 12:16PM
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.qzyxya
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I liked it. The audio was super crisp and the shots were sick. The titles looked fine (the motion tracking looked sick), except for the third one, will berman, it seemed out of place. The first and second ones looked natural and blended into the scene (though you did cut off part of the second one, it was still easily visible for me), but the third one didn't really work. Part of it was the choppiness, which made it kind of hard to read, and second was the fact that it was on the lip of the jump, which made it kind of weird. Not sure where you could have put it, maybe in the air? Just looked out of place to me. Sick edit overall though, loved those tight telephoto panning shots.
Jan 11 2013 12:28PM
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juicedrummer11
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another solid edit man. i think the tracked titles fit a lot better in this edit than your last one too. also really liked the colors too given the morning shadows and early sun splitting the tones on the jump and landing. thought you did pretty well with the tripod shots, woulda been cool to see maybe a slight zoom on some of those panning up directly behind the jump too but other than that i thought they were pretty solid
Jan 11 2013 1:28PM
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eheath
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Yeah, I wanted to be tighter but was limited by my lens. I had to go deep to be able to get a good perspective and my 18-200 is very soft past about 150-160mm so I tried to not go past that. Looking to buy a 200mm f4 for that sharp tele shit
Jan 11 2013 1:34PM
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HWW
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cease*

I liked that, but there are several things I want to point out. As mentioned before, Karl's title was not easy to see. I thought the other two titles were pretty ok, but the font was kind of thin, if you know what I mean? The music didn't add anything for me, I can't decide what you like though. Sounds were very nice otherwise!
Jan 11 2013 1:43PM
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Coalescent
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Honestly Evan, One of my favorites you've made. Really like the tripod look. Did you have a 2nd camera op for the edit? Was it curry?
Jan 11 2013 2:46PM
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eheath
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Nah I shot the whole thing myself in about 30-40 minutes ha the guys understood that and did most of their tricks twice which was nice.
Jan 11 2013 2:55PM
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[J_Gasper]
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loved the tripod shots. defiantly my favorite edit from you this year. Loved the colors as well.

thought some of the landings were a little long, but it didnt really take anything away from the video.

nice job as always!
Jan 11 2013 3:23PM
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1337
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Takeoff shots were real sick
Jan 11 2013 3:55PM
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sweatshirt
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now make an edit with tripod and glidecam work, really enjoyed that!
Jan 11 2013 4:11PM
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NPF
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So fucking sick! you and the riders killed it.

This was the edit you probably heard the song in. its all good you did it much more justice then i did haha

Jan 11 2013 4:36PM
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Coalescent
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So nice when you film riders who can do the same trick twice and make it look nearly identical lol
Jan 11 2013 5:03PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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holy shit that was so on point, those colors looked so incredible nice and the cranked up sound was so fucking prime, and the nice closeups. This is definetely one of my favorite things youve put out, that was so well done
Jan 11 2013 5:16PM
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JStrathern
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Really solid, only things I can come up with that I wish were different would be: a little more variety in angles, I found the first half a tiny bit repetitive, and then just a little more slow motion to go with the song. That's just what I would've done, really liked it though.
Jan 11 2013 8:18PM
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MLeone
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or maybe he heard of it cause he listens to A$AP Rocky.........? lol
Jan 12 2013 9:28AM
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dunesquirrel
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definitely your best work that I have seen in a very long time. Im getting real sick of the cookie cutter glidecam footage in the industry. Not enough tripod work nowadays. Also had a bit of a stept feel.

you killed it though
Jan 12 2013 11:26AM
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eheath
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Damn, thanks man! hyped people like this. Stept is definitely a big inspiration for my film making in general, so thats very flattering for you to say that. I just got this tripod so im hyped to keep shooting with it.
Jan 12 2013 2:54PM
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NPF
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Did you even read what it says up top?
Jan 12 2013 4:22PM
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eheath
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I kind of phrased it weird, I meant that I had not seen it in any edit yet, but I was sure someone had used it. sorry i used your song :(
Jan 12 2013 4:27PM
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NPF
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ahhh ok. its alright i will forgive you this time, but you have to drop 5 questions with steve now.
Jan 12 2013 8:58PM
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Daph
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Really enjoyed it, has sort of an ethereal feel with the morning lighting. Agree on the titles though, could be that my pain meds make it hard to focus but I almost missed the names of all the riders.
Jan 12 2013 9:54PM
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kootenayklaus
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I don't understand why you are so anal about who (you) used the song first, relax.
Jan 13 2013 12:46AM
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NPF
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when i use a song i instantly get all rights to it and anyone who uses it after me sucks balls and i hate them....

" I can't think of a video I've seen it in..."
was just saying that he probably saw it in my edit. wasnt really being anal about it.
Jan 13 2013 3:10AM
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eheath
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... but I didn't
Jan 13 2013 4:17AM
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NPF
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yes i know that now. you corrected yourself after and said that you worded it weirdly and hadnt actually seen it in an edit. i just thought it was my edit that you heard it in, but couldn't remember.

anyways wasnt trying to be anal about it.
Jan 13 2013 4:30AM
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sweatshirt
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he wasn't being anal at all ...
Jan 13 2013 5:08AM
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SkiBum.
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Gona throw something out there for ya...

The song...If you are trying to promote yourself, show your video, put it on websites like the ski areas or anywhere...do you really think anyone wants to hear that song besides the jibbers? The excessive nigger this nigger that does not really fly with many people. Just a thought.
Jan 13 2013 12:59PM
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TravelsTI
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Honestly, I think your tripod works accentuates your ability so much more than shooting with a glidecam.  I could be biased on that subject, not much of a glidecam shooter myself.  But your shot composition was so much better  and your shooting ability definitely shined, nice work.
Jan 13 2013 5:21PM
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mBall
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Loved it Evan! Really diggin all the tripod shots. What is your new tripod btw?

Really loved the audio, and like someone else said, it had a very Stept feel. For me, I didn't dig the font. The motion tracking was cool but the font didn't do it for me. Also, I thought some of the landings dragged on for a bit too long. For me, it don't like seeing them revert after landing switch.

Good work!
Jan 13 2013 5:31PM
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eheath
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1. this video will not be posted to the pc website because of the song, i knew this and im okay with it because pc park website get like 5 hits a day

2. i would never make a video to promote myself that wasn't appropriate, this is a minute and 30 second video of the same two angles on one jump, its not a demo reel.

3. this video is for jibbers, skiers, whatever you want to call them. censorship is wack anyway, its a fucking word, this song fit the skiing/film/editing for my video which is why I used it
Jan 13 2013 7:23PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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this may sound dumb but why would a 200mm f4 be sharper than your kit lens when your kit lens is f3.5? how much impact does fstop have the sharpness of a lens compared to other factors?
Jan 15 2013 6:10PM
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[J_Gasper]
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Aperture doesnt really determine sharpness in a lens. A 200mm f4 is a prime though, which means its a fixed focal length. Primes are 9/10 sharper than zoom lenses, especially ones with such a big range, such as his 18-200. Towards the end of the spectrum on many zooms, the image gets soft due to shooting through a lot of glass.
Jan 15 2013 6:13PM
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eheath
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The maximum aperture of a lens does not effect how sharp the lens is. most lenses are sharpest when stopped down 1 or 2 stops of light IE 1.4 lens is sharpest at 2.8 and smaller or an f4 lens is sharper at f5.6 and smaller, etc.

My kit lens is 18-200 f3.5-6.3 so actually at 200mm my kit is at f6.3 even tho id stop it down to 8 or 11. But, since the lens has so much range past about 150mm it starts to get soft. The nikon 200mm f4 is very sharp, even at f4 but again id use itat 5.6 or 8. Hope that helped.
Jan 15 2013 6:15PM
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[J_Gasper]
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9/10 times* and his lens is f3.5-6.3 i think. This means the maximum (minimim? I always mix them up) aperture will get higher as you zoom. At 18mm, it will be at 3.5, but at 200mm it will be f6.3, which is pretty slow.
Jan 15 2013 6:16PM
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[J_Gasper]
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Oops. Eheath posted right before me. Didnt see your post. Sorry.
Jan 15 2013 6:17PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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so when your shooting if its dark will you not go below 2.8 (assuming your using a f1.4) and just increase your ISO more? im assuming you wouldnt.
Jan 15 2013 7:12PM
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eheath
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It all depends on the situation but I avoid shooting wide open at all times. Id rather run iso 6400 (which with my camera I can, with like a t2i you need to have your lens wide open because you cant go higher than is 1600) and then have f4 (2.8 lens) and shutter 1/180. Some people are all about wide open shots but they're soft as fuck.
Jan 15 2013 7:22PM
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CrotchKiller
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So jelly of that 6400, that must be so nice.
Jan 15 2013 8:34PM
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Stickity
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all this camera talk is boggling my mind.

that was the best edit i've seen. i didn't want it to end at all. i wish more people used audio like that and the shooting and riding was unbelievably clean
Jan 16 2013 1:09AM
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