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No poles= more style?

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Skurfer
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So I noticed lately that allot of the guys with some of the best style are skiing with out poles. Check out Keiran McVeigh in R2R and pretty much all of the guys in B&E Be Yourself episode.

Not saying that dudes with poles dont have style because that would be a straight up lie. Clayton Vila killed it in the creep. Just seems like lately the dudes not rocking pointy sticks are making it look easier than those who are. Anybody have any idea why?
Dec 13 2012 9:17AM
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Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
i personally wouldn't like me if i wasn't me but ok
Dec 13 2012 5:54PM
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-dAvE-
Posts: 677 - Karma: 74
A few years ago, i feel liek everyone was skiing with no poles.
I thought it was fun... I now ski with poles, but i do find they are sometimes annoying. it was nice to have my hands free. Definitely will be sticking to skiing with poles tho.
Dec 13 2012 5:57PM
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Zimmy
Posts: 1258 - Karma: -1,327
My skis have a large surface area with a 171 tip (are 155 long) and pressure is distributed more uniformly across the ski due to stance behind midline and reverse camber. Heartcarving is the shit. I'll make that obvious this Jan.
Dec 13 2012 5:59PM
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FroesenSkeeze
Posts: 638 - Karma: 673
lol..
Dec 13 2012 6:34PM
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Stickity
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i just mean on here. i'm a little shit most of the time
Dec 13 2012 6:44PM
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Newschooleri.
Posts: 396 - Karma: 554
Here is me going no poles for the second time this season.

Lp Dag Days Volume.1 from Kirill on Vimeo.

Dec 13 2012 7:05PM
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eheath
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henrik would be just a steezy with or without poles.
Dec 13 2012 7:06PM
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coolflash8
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we have the same skis and both go no poles. connections
Dec 13 2012 7:13PM
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Zimmy
Posts: 1258 - Karma: -1,327
Henrik should take time out from his demo tour and fly over to Zermatt this Jan and have a ski with me lol. I need some aerial shenanigans in my vid (that I can learn from) and in turn I can impart some wisdom of the heartcarve to him because I can see the young Padwan is ready... that is before he falls to the darkside which could happen.


Dec 13 2012 7:21PM
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a_burger
Posts: 5206 - Karma: 20,187
or you could stop giving a shit about how people ski and stop trying to force "heartcarve" (which sounds gay) onto people
Dec 13 2012 7:25PM
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Zimmy
Posts: 1258 - Karma: -1,327
shove it mate.
Dec 13 2012 7:31PM
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Stickity
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no u
Dec 13 2012 7:33PM
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a_burger
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that attitude will get you nowhere in life
Dec 13 2012 7:47PM
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Zimmy
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After Henrik.

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Dec 13 2012 7:49PM
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Stickity
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wat
Dec 13 2012 7:49PM
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j.engel
Posts: 245 - Karma: 417
depends,
when your poles are 2 inches long whats the point.
Dec 13 2012 8:11PM
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Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
makes your dick look bigger. hopefully.
Dec 13 2012 8:13PM
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CaelW
Posts: 400 - Karma: 108
Clyde seems like a nice man
Dec 13 2012 8:36PM
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coolflash8
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haha. NS flame wars
Dec 13 2012 8:45PM
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FroesenSkeeze
Posts: 638 - Karma: 673
These flame wars are so Aladeen...
Dec 13 2012 9:24PM
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Mr.Bishop
Posts: 22671 - Karma: 75,830
Sigg'd bro...

Epic.
Dec 13 2012 10:05PM
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YouAllSuck
Posts: 632 - Karma: 1,177
No poles is nice for hot laps with a rope tow, otherwise i find it annoying, I like skiing with poles
Dec 13 2012 10:11PM
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ColinB
Posts: 1452 - Karma: 2,236
Its all in perception. I definitely see what people like about no poles, but in my opinion the only person that I've seen pull it off in a way that I enjoy watching is Kieran
Dec 13 2012 10:27PM
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popadonna
Posts: 212 - Karma: 1,770
poles are for strippers! it really only matters to you how you want to ride... your body position can change dramatically when you are charging no pole style and it forces to use more of your body to make turns, somewhat like snowboarding. it can also allow that freedom especially with grabs and riding switch. poles, or not, only the flow matters... it does suck in lift lines, however! when im shredding with henrik and phil, i can see their flow and am stoked they are pushing their own style in the comps. but when i am shredding with candide, he just makes fun of me all the time! haha no matter how many times we have talked about it (he even lent me his poles for a run to see if i could ski with them= crashed 3 times), he has his old school opinion and we accept each others view... bottom line, who gives a fuck about what others think and ride with your own style
Dec 13 2012 10:51PM
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asfdfads
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that was sick! i occasionally enjoy skiing park without poles, but i cant imagine skiing agressive powder without them. 

Dec 13 2012 11:22PM
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No.Quarter
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dafaq is your point with the picture of the gaper
Dec 13 2012 11:47PM
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grapejuice3000+
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eggsactly
no poles 4life
Dec 13 2012 11:49PM
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Stickity
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i would only ski without poles in park and messing around on groomers and trails but if i ever skied powder (which i can't because icecoast) i'd use poles
Dec 14 2012 2:20AM
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Kickerzzz
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Dec 14 2012 7:21AM
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Crispy.
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Throwing out a big claim there
Dec 14 2012 7:44AM
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The_Sick_Nasty
Posts: 129 - Karma: 50

Here is the spill about poles....

First of all.. if you cant make a decision for yourself about whether to have poles or not to have poles, you need to create your own style and own it... thats what skiing is all about!

Second of all.. I use poles because they create a since of balance and keep my arms from waving around in the air or on rails like an idiot. The gripping of your hand to the pole helps one focus on his hands and essentially his body.... helping just about anyone clean up their jumps and create more ski style.

Dec 14 2012 8:14AM
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Peach.
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Thank you for rehashing what everyone has already said in one post.
Dec 14 2012 8:55AM
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The_Sick_Nasty
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No, thank you for being a typical  internet d-bag.

Dec 14 2012 9:06AM
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TNORTS
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I think its a bad generalization to say tht poles will help clean up anyones style. When I use poles I don't think about where my arms are, but when I lose the poles I am much more conciouss of my arms, and as a result, my styles alot tighter and clean.
Dec 14 2012 9:12AM
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Stickity
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are your jimmies okay? they seem a tad rustled
Dec 14 2012 9:16AM
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eheath
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this is awesome. i just watched the matrix the other day, so this was perfect.
Dec 15 2012 2:24AM
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SNOWPARKCHlLE
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no poles is dumb
Dec 15 2012 3:11AM
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Skurfer
Posts: 44 - Karma: 7
Im willing to bet they do it for the sponsorship... use poles make money sounds like a good deal to me.
Dec 15 2012 6:49AM
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AviadIL
Posts: 245 - Karma: 30
i might be wrong here but skiing is supposed to be all about having fun..

as for the second point of yours- i think it's just practice in any case..waving your hands around with poles doesn't look too good either. when you learn how to avoid waving you hands around when doing tricks it doesn't matter if you're gripping something or not..
Dec 15 2012 9:10AM
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TNORTS
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For those of you doubting people saying they can pull of no poles, heres a little edit I'm in. Third day of no poles (although I spent some time on summer setup over summer break going no poles). I think my style is better without poles personally.

BTW Im in the saga On Deck.


Dec 17 2012 7:40PM
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therealjalty
Posts: 68 - Karma: 36
i skied a whole season without poles just because of this edit when it first came out.
Dec 17 2012 7:53PM
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mski
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I currently hold that general opinion
Dec 17 2012 8:05PM
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BigScaryLarry
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I started skiing with no poles the very beginning of last season after getting my thumb caught in my fks (lol) and was unable to hold them. I have found that when i ski the park i feel way more comfortable without poles. lots of people say that the poles help them keep themselves balanced but i find that skiing with poles makes me unbalanced. Its all about how you ski and what makes you comfortable while skiing. everyone is different deal with it. note though that groomers and anything outside the park i ski with poles.
Dec 17 2012 9:15PM
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swagburg
Posts: 798 - Karma: 4,706
its because you have less things flailing around in the air with you
Dec 17 2012 9:23PM
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OGHolliday
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flow is like rubbing two logs from george kokoefer on Vimeo.



Shameless self promotion, if posting shitty old runs of yours is self promotion.... But basically my point is when I ski no poles and I'm very comfortable with a trick my arms stay pretty relaxed and look decent, but when it's a more technical trick i.e. one that takes more spinning aka 1:45 in this edit i always find my arms getting all wacky.
Dec 17 2012 9:35PM
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coldcuts69
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These threads are absolutely retarded. If you like to ski with poles...then do so. If you like to ski without poles...then do so. Its THAT fucking simple kids.
Dec 17 2012 9:36PM
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BigScaryLarry
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this right here is perfect
Dec 17 2012 9:52PM
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piff.the.east
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The only time I don't wear poles is when I hit up some urban because they tend to get in the way. I always pack poles for a mountain because I feel awkward without them trying to get through a lift line and doing other things throughout the mountain. Plus if you don't have poles you look like a gaper. do whatever feels more natural for you, not what others are doing.
Dec 17 2012 10:01PM
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Winterski
Posts: 136 - Karma: 41
Completely depends on how well you rock em. When I'm trying a new trick sometimes I throw my poles on the ground just to make it easier, then once I get it once I'll try it with poles. I personally think poles are better in general, but there are some skiers who are so much better without them.
Dec 17 2012 10:03PM
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d.mcknight
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definitely starting to notice this to become more prevalent at the local hill with the e-dollo wannabes who nollie off everything progressively starting to not use poles. Not that I have any problem with it, by all means if you want to ski without poles it is fine with me but I do see the trend starting to set in
Jan 6 2013 7:17PM
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