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Books, I want books.

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HowardRoark
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You probably have a few books you like, I want to know what they are so I can read them. I'm sort of at a dead end, a dead end of books. Post your favourite books.
Here are a couple of mine.

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Dec 8 2012 12:19AM
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*N_Wist*
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Read anything by this guy, you may have seen the movie but read the book Michael Conelly's writing style is awesome.

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Dec 9 2012 12:15AM
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bardissono
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And a weird one that I found entertaining:

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Dec 9 2012 12:21AM
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Errl
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Very related:
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Dec 9 2012 1:03AM
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RickAstley
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fuck I love this book so much

also, I'm reading this book right now and am 100 addicted to it, it's amazing:

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Dec 9 2012 1:11AM
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HowardRoark
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My God, best series ever.
Dec 9 2012 2:31AM
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cow.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gone-Away_World

the gone away world -nick harkaway

honestly one of most well rounded books i've ever read, and i read a lot. hilarious, epic, interesting. even has ninjas.
Dec 9 2012 2:47AM
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cbj
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Fear - l. Ron Hubbard (1940)

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Dec 9 2012 2:48AM
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uosdwiSrjewoH
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so false.


and lots of good books i've had to read in the last few years in this thread, so to add one that people probably haven't read:

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pretty interesting, seems like its science fiction/dystopian the whole time, but it really isn't, great read.
Dec 9 2012 2:54AM
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RedEyeTheJedi
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I like Dr. Seuss and have just recently started reading some of his books before I doze off to bed.
Dec 9 2012 3:06AM
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PJS.
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I think WWII is fascinating, i guess obviously haha. These are vastly different books, but all fantastic and ones I've read recently. I recommend Unbroken to everyone I know, it's one of the best and most inspiring books I've ever read.
Dec 9 2012 3:10AM
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Dunnah
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seriously this book can teach you alot. Its always a great reference.
Dec 9 2012 3:12AM
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PJS.
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Allow me to save OP the trouble:

Do whatever you can/want for stability and power regardless of morality. Do it early, do it efficiently.
Dec 9 2012 3:21AM
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mgenova
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Some of my favorites: (my taste is a little bipolar at times)

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also, this is a really helpful websites that generates lists of books based on authors and titles you like:

http://www.whatshouldireadnext.com/index.php
Dec 9 2012 3:37AM
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Dunnah
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yeah you pretty much nailed it
Dec 9 2012 3:56AM
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Peach.
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The Fault in Our Stars.
OP is guaranteed to cry like a twelve year old girl.
Dec 9 2012 8:32AM
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Skavengers303
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half way through this and its totally sweet
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Dec 9 2012 8:48AM
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_TK_
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Threads
Dec 9 2012 10:38AM
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RickAstley
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Sorry for the double post but this cannot be forgotten in this list:

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Dec 9 2012 11:55AM
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BikeMlatt69
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Dec 9 2012 12:00PM
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RickAstley
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Dec 9 2012 12:14PM
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mgenova
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amazing book.

to OP read anything by John Green and you can't go wrong
Dec 9 2012 1:31PM
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MANDER
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Dec 9 2012 2:16PM
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HowardRoark
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I just found a few of his books. Great.
Dec 9 2012 3:29PM
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mgenova
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hands down my favorite author. he may write young adult novels, but i think anyone can relate to them and love them.
Dec 9 2012 3:36PM
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yourthemannowdog
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I don't think the message is do what ever you want, its more about doing what you necessary to gain power. You gotta remember what Machiavelli was dealing with at that time. Governments could not hold power and that was more devastating than him advocating amoral actions of the governments to maintain power. At it's roots the book tells you how to get power and hold it. The main issue is those who read too far into the book and draw parallels with governments today. If anything you, when reading The Prince, you should find that our government is dated. When we have such a thriving global society, stability can come from places other than war and poverty.


We had to read The Prince in my senior year of high school and it irritated me how we studied the book as if it was giving us answers to today's problems. It is as if we were forced to tolerate our government's current direction. Political philosophy will never give us good answers, but it will can certainly lead us to ask better questions and discern the bad solutions.
Dec 9 2012 4:30PM
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PJS.
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true, I guess I should have said do whatever is necessary. I found the parts of that book I read incredibly repetitive, just different phrasings of that basic theme. I learned as much about Machiavellian philosophy from the first time I heard the phrase 'the ends justify the means' than from what I read in the Prince.
Dec 9 2012 4:40PM
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yourthemannowdog
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This is where it really starts to get out of hand with repetition. I wouldn't call Machiavelli a philosopher though. He touches upon some ontology and moral topics. I think the reason why he sounds like a philosopher is a result of his brilliant mind and terrible writing skills. If you try and read Hume, Kant, Hegel, or Hobbes you will find common themes in their writing. Just look at the table of contents in Kant's critique of pure reason. It's just painful to look at. Kant's prolegomena to any future metaphysics says the same thing as his critiques, but it is about a tenth the size.

People think that Philosophy is hard to read, but truthfully it's just extremely dry. It wasn't until the continental philosophers that you find a few decent writers like Nietzsche, Wittgenstein (his later works), and Sarte (who I think is a terrible philosopher).
Dec 9 2012 5:30PM
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HowardRoark
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Dec 9 2012 8:59PM
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SpaghettiWizard
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+1
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Dec 9 2012 9:11PM
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Spinoza
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Just did a paper on the tractatus, pretty cool I guess. Glad to be finished with that course though
Dec 9 2012 9:20PM
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yourthemannowdog
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I recommend you read Philosophical Investigations. If you read the tractatus and understood it, you will really enjoy Philosophical Investigations. He completely abandons the symbolic logic and takes a big step away from the logical positivism of Frege, Russel, and Moore. It's the most aesthetically pleasing and rewarding book I have ever read. It has completely changed the way I view language and philosophy.

The tractatus is an absolutely brilliant book, but Wittgenstein wrote the book knowing it's contents had no value. He actually cites the tractatus and says things like "The idiot who wrote the Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus would have said this about our current circumstance". He is constantly building bigger and bigger pictures of language until he cites the issue in our relationship with language. If you've read Bertrand Russel's Principa Mathematica (at least the first volume) it becomes obvious that there is no criteria or foundation for mathematics. You just keep digging deeper and deeper until you give up. That's one of the things that Wittgenstein gathers from language in the book.


I could write about the book all day, but I really do recommend you read after the Tractatus. It will take you two hours at most on your first read.
Dec 10 2012 12:29AM
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Sno.
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Dec 10 2012 3:30AM
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B.Aussie
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^ My favourite book.

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Dec 10 2012 6:27AM
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Skavengers303
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nice, I'll raise you a

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Dec 10 2012 4:07PM
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Dr.Dealgood
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I will agree with that. The symbolic/semiotic movement was super interesting and yeilded some interesting and penetrating perspectives but ultimately it sort of dead end. That being said I also don't think either of the fields are obsolete by any stretch.

I'm surprised, somewhat, that you haven't mentioned Foucault. Though somewhat disparate, I've always felt the two had parallels in what/how they think. I liked the analytic movement, but was personally more interested by the phenomenological movement. Thoughts on that one Moegain? Or just PM me.
Dec 10 2012 4:37PM
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yourthemannowdog
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I've never read focault. I feel like I need to read up on existentialism and structuralism to understand post structuralism. I've been studying Philosophy on my own time and have not yet progressed so far in my studies. I'm really interested in epistemology and wasted a lot of time reading Kant and Hume. So honestly, I haven't gotten around to it. I don't know how interesting I find phenomenology, I know so little of it. I always heard Foucault in the context of post-structuralism or continental philosophy. After reading Sartre's Nausea, I lost interest in modern continental philosophy.
Dec 10 2012 5:14PM
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mgenova
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this is one of my all time favorites.
Dec 11 2012 12:19AM
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SwagtasticWalrus
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Boobs. I want boobs.
Dec 11 2012 12:44AM
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FLBP
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Dec 11 2012 8:54PM
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Dragonite.
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This. Jack is an awesome writer. And The Hobbit kicks ass for obvious reasons.
Dec 11 2012 9:44PM
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1337
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I dont read much, but this is a personal favorite
Dec 11 2012 9:47PM
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