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Unexpected problem - new boots vs old

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biobug
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I just got a pair of Full Tilts in (classics) for a smokin deal. I went to check them against my old boots (nordica beasts) and found that the base was a good cm shorter.

Slap them on my solomons (2011 Lords with STH 14s) to check the center line and find that they want to be all the way back in the binding to align center marks.

First thought - crap.

Second thought - epoxy isn't too expensive.

Third thought - why the hell is the base of these boots so different? They're both 27.5.

I can either run them off center by tightening up the rear adjustment screw or I'm going to have to have my bindings remounted. I mounted them myself last year for my boots and had no issue. I was thinking of having the release tested this year since it felt a bit light and I like my knees.

So, the real question is, how important is alignment of the boot center mark to ski center mark? I can probably just tighten up the rear and be happy with it. I'd rather let the epoxy cure for a few days before skiing these. I'm due for winter park in two weeks.

Thoughts? I live in Missouri - I have to send my skis up to St Louis to have them worked on if I decide to have remounts... (unless I remount them myself. Again.$5 in epoxy isn't a big deal. But it's $30 for binding adjust and $50 for mount and adjust. I can save pain by just having them mounted and adjusted.
Dec 2 2012 12:29AM
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biobug
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I have fun talking to myself.
I just adjusted the rear to fit the boot. It's mounted per Salomon 27.5 specs. FT ends up maybe .5cm boot center in front of ski center. Probably not a big deal at all.
Dec 2 2012 12:44AM
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shr@gler
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wait. what the fuck are you epoxying?
You need to make sure the forward pressure and din setting is correct. If it pushes you a little forward on your lords I dont think you will be too upset.

Dec 2 2012 2:02AM
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onenerdykid
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This is why you never buy boots based on size (27.5) but rather on boot sole length, the millimeter measurement of the sole. If my memory serves correct, a 27 Beast is 315 mm and a 27 FT Original is 310mm (a 28 is 318mm). Unless you got fit specifically for that size somewhere, you most likely bought the wrong size boot.
Dec 2 2012 3:59AM
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localonvolkls
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Fts have a thinner shell thats why the bsl is shorter
Dec 2 2012 5:54AM
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onenerdykid
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Not necessarily. Their wall thickness is thinner in some spots but not so much thinner to account for a size 28 being a 318mm BSL when the standard is 325mm. They really just have irregular jumps between shell sizes and you need to be aware of that when selecting your size.
Dec 2 2012 10:08AM
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LC.
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Full Tilts go by shoe size (8mm steps) not mondo. But then they call them by mondo sizes anyway, so the sizes get messed up.

But yeah, epoxy the shit out of them.
Dec 2 2012 11:15AM
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biobug
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Oh yeah I'll totally just epoxy the boots to the ski for a DIN 100 mount. :)

But seriously...
I was trying to figure out if I should re-mount the bindings for the slightly smaller boot sole.
The epoxy is used for the screws at mount time on the mounting screws.

After adjusting the binding, I think it'll be fine. I'll have an every so slightly forward of center mount.
Dec 2 2012 12:46PM
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jalty03
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boot size and shell size dont always line up with one another. Meaning a 27.5 full tilt boot might be 312mm in length while the salomon boot of the same size is 300mm.

obviously not exact sizes just an example.


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