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Noha
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Whos thought about it?
Nov 30 2012 6:54PM
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fupaface
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I hear its the cool thing to do
Nov 30 2012 11:00PM
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Peach.
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Go away.
Nov 30 2012 11:02PM
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Wallisch_pl
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Nov 30 2012 11:05PM
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roddy116
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am i doing it right?
Nov 30 2012 11:09PM
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whoa-dere
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i chucled
Nov 30 2012 11:12PM
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RimJobber
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Any of you guys need anyone to talk to, PM me, I know how you feel
Nov 30 2012 11:12PM
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cbj
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Personally never have. It seems the more introverted someone is, the more they have thoughts about suicide.

Although I have had friends who have taken their own life. Shit is mad whack. I can't even imagine the family feels.

RIP Ryan.
Nov 30 2012 11:28PM
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Peach.
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It's not something to take lightly.
Nov 30 2012 11:30PM
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whoa-dere
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i agree. it's the less social kids

i used to live in madison, moved away for more than 2 years now, but last week from facebook i just found out that a guy i knew there took his own life. he was not the most outgoing person. i didn't even hang out with him, we were just friends of friends, but we've talked a few times. it's still so surreal to learn that someone you've talked with is gone
Nov 30 2012 11:42PM
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kamron_708
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I had a friend who tried to hang himself, went through the whole system. Counseling, constructive activities, you name it. He then tried again with his dad's 12 gauge and his sister walked in on him while he was loading a single shell into the chamber. Girl told parents, he got grounded for a whole year. 3 weeks into punishment, I get a message. "Dude I got something crazy planned out, come over in about a half hour and ill fill you in" I never got to say goodbye. 1 shotgun shell to the dome in his bathroom. Most horrific fucking shit I've ever seen. It fucks with me every time I think of him. The only picture that comes to mind is fragments of skull and bloody brains and head everywhere, the remains of his head. If you are seriously contemplating suicide, DON'T FUCKING DO IT!!! Just think of my picture, a 16 year old boy with no such thing as a head or a skull. Just a body with the occasional sliver of brains hanging about. If anything should stop you, it should be your perception of the reactions of your loved ones. If you want your parents or siblings to see their beautiful son or daughter lying dead, and needing a closed casket funeral, its fucked up.

RIP Ryan
Nov 30 2012 11:54PM
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BmoChop
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I've thought about it a lot. There were points where it's all I think about and I would stay up all night thinking about it. I guess I never had real intentions to do it but there was definitely an appeal there. I guess I'm past that now but sometimes I still get really depressed and think about it. I was in dc at a museum on a balcony recently and really had the urge to just jump what wouldve been like 70 feet probably but I don't think that was nothing serious.
Dec 1 2012 12:00AM
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LiquorLanch
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It's not worth it. I've dealt with several close frineds going through these and similar issues(self harm etc...) and all I can say is have someone you can trust and be able to suck up your pride and seek help.
Dec 1 2012 12:31AM
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Bogs
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quoting for emphasis. is suicide selfish? i guess, yeah, because you are doing something to help yourself that hurts others, but isn't it also selfish to want someone to life through hell everyday just so you don't have to be sad about them dying?
Dec 1 2012 12:54AM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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you're line of thought is incorrect. no one "wants someone to live through hell everyday just so you don't have to be sad about them dying". we want them to get help so that they don't have to live through hell because that's not normal and there are better solutions than splattering your brains all over a wall, hanging yourself, etc.
Dec 1 2012 1:10AM
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TheBigApple
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I'll never understand mental illness because I will never have a mental illness.... It is hard for someone like myself to comprehend mental illness. Sometimes I just think, quit whining about your life and being a little bitch, your problems are petty compared to the real world. Get your shit together and get over it... etc etc... but according to the experts... my wife is a clinical psychologist... there is actually something wrong in their head.

It is very confusing for myself to comprehend, but suicide is a terrible thing and I hope everyone is able to get help.

Sometimes I wonder though if we are classifying people with these mental illnesses when in reality they are just being whiny, lazy or dramatic.

I think that is the gap that needs to be overcome...

People without these issues don't understand them, or the people with them.
Dec 1 2012 2:16AM
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El_Barto.
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i think sometimes theres nothing anyone can do or say to make things better.
Dec 1 2012 2:31AM
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plaplapla
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this is well put.. makes sense, like if you don't care about anything so much that you will kill yourself, fuck it... do something awesome

never thought about suicide but thought a lot about death and i has made me very curious.
Dec 1 2012 2:39AM
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fujarome
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but it's completely inapplicable to any person who's actually depressed or suicidal.


When you are either of those things, the last thing you want is change. Especially not something like completely destroying your routine. It's not rational, as doing so would most likely help your depression. But rationality clearly isnt a strong concern if you're thinking about killing yourself anyway.


Being depressed isn't a feeling of invincibility with nothing to lose.

It's closer to being extremely, and excessively vulnerable to everything.
Dec 1 2012 2:47AM
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Anathema
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why would i think of such a thing. im awesome..
Dec 1 2012 2:52AM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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maybe in extreme cases, but i refuse to accept that this is the case with the majority of suicides.
Dec 1 2012 2:55AM
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ween
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I'm not suicidal, just here to tell a story.

A kid in basic training was depressed, not sure if he just generally hated his life, or couldn't handle basic. Either way, he wanted out of basic training. He went into his MTI's office and told his instructor that he was suicidal and wanted out. His instructor called bullshit, MTI's get kids playing the suicide card all the time just because they can't handle the stress of basic. The instructor called his 'bullshit' and handed the kid a pair of scissors, the kid immediately stabbed himself in the neck. The instructor lost all of his rank, probably got discharged and I'm pretty sure the kid lived. Moral of the story is, don't help people kill themselves, but also, don't be a pussy and commit suicide.
Dec 1 2012 3:05AM
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Mr.Panda
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If getting past depression/suicidal thoughts was as simple as "do something awesome" it wouldn't be such a deal.

Srsly, the two times I thought about killing myself and went as far as loading the gun and shit I had some of the best friends in the world, was going skiing every weekend, had not a gf but a great female friend that I could hang out with constantly. And I still felt like my life was worthless.
Dec 1 2012 3:06AM
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VT_scratch
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already had you 0/10
Dec 1 2012 3:15AM
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fupaface
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sweet, fuck internet karma.
Dec 1 2012 3:29AM
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Wompuscat
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For about 5 months after I had brain surgery I was extremely depressed. I thought about it, how to do it, yada yada. I also thought about repurcussions. Who would miss me(mainly family at the time) and I didnt act upon it. I have been deeply depressed since, and lately I have been quite depressed. But I have never thought about it again. Those were a dark 5 months. I never want to reach those times again.
Dec 1 2012 4:24AM
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McLS
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I knew someone at my skl who commited suicide, 2 yrs older than me, he left a note saying that nobody gave a shit about him and that a girl was mean to him and that he loved her. His parents never realised he was depressed and were devastated, the girl changed skl and is gonna feel guilty for the rest of her life. I know lifes sucks sometimes but you wouldnt want your parent to commit suicide or one of your friend and make you think that you were not good enough for them and thats why they did it. So dont do it to them. And there is always someone that cares about you, you're never alone. :)
Dec 1 2012 4:41AM
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Mr.Panda
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See, this is the problem... people don't always vocalize or show this.
Dec 1 2012 4:59AM
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t.dough
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck,
Dec 1 2012 7:31AM
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Yardie
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this thread make me :(
Dec 1 2012 8:09AM
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Bmo.
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always find suicide fascinating, as in the psychology around it. reading some of the stories on here intrigues me for some reason. ive never come close to suicide but have had struggles with depression that i hid and never told anyone about. i thought a lot about suicide (not actually committing it, just what it would be like) and i know i would never have the courage do something like that. i can't imagine doing something like that to my family.

i've heard the debate a lot about how someone with depression/suicidal thoughts needs to just get out and go on a crazy adventure and just break their routine, and i TOTALLY agree with it. yes their mentality wont work that way, maybe they need to be forced, but for some it can work. it worked for me!

i struggled sooooo much in highschool with friends and just finding acceptance. I came to college expecting things to be different, and they were for a while. freshman year was fun, made a lot of friends, but sophomore year everything just sorta fell apart. Last year was probably the worst time in my life. Every action i made was watched and judged by other kids at my school. I go to a conservative christian college, its small, and i think most people know or have heard of me. as soon as a feel people found out that i enjoyed going out on the weekends and having a few beers and maybe a smoke every now and then, i instantly lost half of my friends. i tried hard to fit in and be accepted by people, and got let down all the time. over this past year i have learned to completely not give a single fuck what people think about me. life has been so much happier now.

also, this past semester i have been studying abroad in France, and it is the BEST thing thats ever happened to me. I can't tell you how happy i've been here, not a single moment of depressed feelings or anything. Its been fucking awesome! I'm really excited to get home and see family and friends, but im gonna miss europe and i cant wait to get back here. school next semester is gonna suuuuuck.

sorry for the rant and for getting off topic, just felt good to write this out
Dec 1 2012 8:29AM
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Peach.
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I would really just like to draw emphasis to this. I felt like my life was worthless. I had to relearn the value
of my own life. It's not as simple as changing something in your life.
Dec 1 2012 8:32AM
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Bogs
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yeah, but someone in that state of mind doesn't always see that getting help or getting better is really an option. i'm just saying, it's just as selfish for a person to be mad/upset at someone who commits suicide as it is for a person to actually commit suicide. and there are, of course, people who just can't get better, no matter how much help they try to get.
Dec 1 2012 8:48AM
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Bogs
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i don't think i've ever heard a story with a worse "moral" than this in my entire life. i would hope it is absurdly clear to any not-retarded human being that your first reaction to hearing someone is suicidal shouldnt be to call them out on it and give them something that they can use to hurt themselves. and about the second part, try for some empathy, man.
Dec 1 2012 8:59AM
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volvotom
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Having worked as an EMT I've seen the gamut of successful and unsuccessful attempts. Hangings, shootings, stabbings, pills, etc. Even had a few who failed the first time but were successful later.

A memorable one was a woman who cut the skin on the inside of her wrist off in the perfect shape of a heart. Probably left a unique scar.

Anyone who attempts harming him or herself falls under 5150 code, which means they can hold you in a mental health facility against your will for up to 72 hours, this can usually then be extended (if need be) to 2 weeks under 5250. Any longer than that and the state has to get a judge to sign off on a conservatorship.


Dec 1 2012 3:13PM
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act.resist
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suicide is caused by pressure from society or family to be something. It also can be caused by severe loneliness or feeling unwanted. that's about all i learned from SO101 
Dec 1 2012 3:22PM
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HWW
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who hasn't thought about it?

there's a difference between thinking about it and trying it
Dec 1 2012 3:50PM
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.Apex.
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Dude.
Dec 1 2012 4:01PM
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m-tang
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I truly get so much joy out of life I've never even come close to considering it, and I would always look down on people who do, thinking they just need to suck it up and move on.

My girlfriend, however, has been struggling with depression for several years and has seriously contemplated suicide many times. You wouldnt know it though. But she talks to me about it, and I can somewhat see things from her perspective, I understand it more. I take it seriously and dont joke about it. One of my acquaintances also recently committed suicide.

Basically I have a different perspective on it than I used to. I would never consider it but I understand it better. If that makes sense.
Dec 1 2012 4:02PM
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El_Barto.
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i wish that people would try and get help before they do anything crazy. Otherwise youre not even trying to be happy. Im all for quitting but you gotta at least try before you throw in the towel.
Dec 1 2012 4:04PM
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VT_scratch
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yeah, it was more about making a point that you seem to be an asshole.
Dec 1 2012 4:10PM
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Dec 1 2012 4:16PM
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easiestEC
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this. i'd just drive cars really really fast and ski the gnarliest terrain to give myself a good chance of dying.

not saying i would ever off myself though, life is too precious
Dec 1 2012 4:26PM
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Broommasta
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and then you realize your skills of skiing are just to rad and some old guy off in the woods see's you ands like "dude bro your shreadin the gnar!!" and ur like uhhhhhhhh and hes like uhhhhh.
Dec 1 2012 4:32PM
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128368798788
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My best friend killed himself the last day of school before summer Junior year in 2009, and it continually haunts me to this very day. I did not have the misfortune of walking in on his suicide as one other member has posted, but I can assure you the pain and torment I have personally felt from it is still very alive and real in me today. I have diagnosed depression and pills don't do shit, in fact they make you crazy and can cause further depression when you finally get off them. You're better off smoking pot honestly, even though that can still trigger psychosis and is not the best for depressed people either.

I've come dam close and to see my best friend gone for 3 years is a pain and torment I would wish upon no-one. If you need any help or just want someone to talk to please feel free to PM me because suicide is fucked up and I feel that you're not normal if you haven't at least thought about it (do not confuse this with attempted).

After seeing someone pass, you truly realize how many social connections and personal loved ones you fuck over when killing yourself. Your parents, family, friends, school, chruch, w.e are all effected deeply.

Go skiing. Go somewhere new. Life is so much bigger and more grand than what you might get accustomed and rationalized to believing. Seriously. Wait until college is over and you have a degree. Wait until you meet the right girl and she changes everything. Wait until you're married and you have fucking children. Then think about suicide and re-evaluate it. Wait until you're kids are grown and they're dependent on you for their futures with college and starting out on the right path. Wait until your kids find the right girl or guy and repeat the cycle and you have grand children. Then re-think suicide, and by then, you'll have so many great memories that it won't even cross your mind. Death will simply be the next turn in life, so why catalyze the process and fuck over the ones you love?

Or don't wait, and go do something fucking awesome. Fuck the beaten path. Do what you want, only you can make you happy. Don't subject yourself to what others want or feel for you, only you hold the key to your happiness. But don't make the one's you love suffer in a way that they'll never recover. That's the most selfish.

Even the most "successful" or richest people are depressed. It's truly about what makes you happy and if you can find joy in helping others or doing something for the community, you will be rewarded in ways you never thought possible. Don't kill yourself, look at how many other people and communities you can help and improve. Anybody can help and improve, and if you don't believe that, then you're a waste of space. Truly.

Sparknotes: Killing yourself is retarded, because you're not helping anybody, not even yourself. Everybody is good at and loves SOME thing. Find it.

R.I.P. Travis Allexan
1992 - 2009
Dec 1 2012 4:55PM
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Bogs
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make sure your depressed girlfriend who has contemplated suicide doesn't hear you think this way. unless you're saying you used to think this way but don't anymore. in which case, good on you.
Dec 1 2012 5:01PM
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Bmo.
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awesome post Mahonebone. I cant even imagine what it would be like to lose a friend that way
Dec 1 2012 5:05PM
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Dragonite.
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Fuck whoever posts something ignorant saying suicide is a weak minded thing. People who bounce back are more strong minded than you.
Dec 1 2012 6:03PM
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128368798788
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Thanks dude. It was very therapeutic writing that and soothing old wounds.

But for real, Indiantears is right. Anybody who thinks suicide is the weak man's way out is truly the weakest man. Only when you've lost everything and you truly need someone else will you then realize how strong the power of love and compassion is.

besides, MOST of the children in here making ignorant posts don't even have a sense of a clue on how to deal and really feel when it comes to suicide.

Dec 1 2012 6:12PM
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sniche
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It's one of the most selfish acts you can commit, just because your life blowns at a certain point in your life doesn't mean you have to devastate and alter the lives of all the ppl that care for you. I just can't fathom how ppl can get to a point where youd rather be nothing than expirience life. But then again this is all coming from someone who loves the fuck life right now.
Dec 1 2012 6:19PM
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