yeah... you see the thing is, if you get any large group of people together, weird things start happening. Thats kind of why abraham lincoln had a cabinet full of people who were not afraid to critique him or criticize... not yes men. I think utah kind of has a subliminal "yes man" trend going on, and it people... idk how to put it. But check out the LDS community outside of Utah. Theyre pretty decent people.