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gnarschralped
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Finally people are standing up for themselves  
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/walmart-strike-black-friday_n_2138871.html
Nov 22 2012 8:59PM
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Bill.Nye
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All posts below this line are a shit storm
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Nov 22 2012 9:00PM
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grown-ninja
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I herd they make 11$ an hour average, yea its shitty to raise a family but back in highschool I would have been shitting rainbows to make that much
Nov 22 2012 9:01PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Nov 22 2012 9:02PM
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Alexander_Keith
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Welp.. That particular stor will almost certainly be closed
Nov 22 2012 9:02PM
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Miomo
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I wanna watch the Walmart website get hacked. Fuck them.
Nov 22 2012 9:07PM
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ILLinoisance
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Just fire all the workers that protest. It's not like someone's holding a gun to their head to work there. If you don't like the conditions at your job, find a new one.
Nov 22 2012 9:17PM
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XtRemE11
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this exactly
Nov 22 2012 9:20PM
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accualyisdolan
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So it begins
Nov 22 2012 9:20PM
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El_Barto.
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El_Barto supports this message
Nov 22 2012 9:22PM
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Bill.Nye
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So I assume you also believe secondary strikes should be legal. For example, truck drivers should be able to refuse to deliver to wal-mart in order to show solidarity with striking wal-mart workers.
Nov 22 2012 9:23PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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good for them. walmart treats their employees like dog shit. and to the people saying "if you don't like your job conditions, find a new one.", you people are fucking retarded. so dumb that I'm not even going to justify it with an explanation as to why you're so fucking stupid.
Nov 22 2012 9:26PM
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ILLinoisance
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Absolutely, I support their right to protest.
Nov 22 2012 9:33PM
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Bill.Nye
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Well then I'm sure you know that under US law secondary strikes are illegal, so in essence men with guns are preventing people from striking to show solidarity with other workers. Maybe you should direct your criticism at that law in stead of at Wal-Mart workers who are attempting to improve their working conditions.
Nov 22 2012 9:37PM
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ILLinoisance
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Can you please elaborate on why I'm so fucking stupid? I know it's much easier to simply rage quit a thread, but I would much like to hear your reasoning.

Sincerely,
A. Fucking Retard
Nov 22 2012 9:39PM
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p-oskier
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This, anyways thats what happened to one of the stores in Quebec.
Nov 22 2012 9:48PM
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ILLinoisance
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Can I not criticize both? Wal-Mart does not want to hire union labor, prospective employees should respect this decision and apply elsewhere if they intend on having a unionized workplace. I am a proponent of at-will employment.
Nov 22 2012 9:49PM
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Bill.Nye
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Sure you can, but you didn't.

If Wal Mart wants to hire non-union labor that's fine, but the government is helping them to do so in massive ways.
Nov 22 2012 9:51PM
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ILLinoisance
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I did not see the workers getting arrested as the main point of the article, so I did not care to comment on it until you brought it up.

"but the government is helping them to do so in massive ways."

Elaborate, please.
Nov 22 2012 9:54PM
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Round-Four
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im a proud member of this shitstorm

any company should treat its employees like they are valuable. even if they arent, even if its more expensive. i know its a ridiculous thing to wish for, but i just want everyone in the world to have some respect for each other and make an effort to help one another out. im pretty sure just doing that would solve just about every issue we face.
Nov 22 2012 9:57PM
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theabortionator
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Walmart blows. Camping overnight at one to get phish tickets gave me herpes.

Get fucked
Nov 22 2012 9:59PM
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ILLinoisance
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Just curious, what is Wal-Mart doing to you or your fellow workers that you see is disrespectful?
Nov 22 2012 10:01PM
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roor
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Workers should be allowed to protest. Walmart should be able to fire them all. Workers should be allowed to unionize. Walmart should be able to fire them all.
Nov 22 2012 10:07PM
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Round-Four
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"The strikers' diverse complaints center around what they call Walmart's "retaliation" against workers' attempts to organize. The company, according to the strikers, punishes employees who talk about unions or join in labor groups by cutting their hours or finding excuses to terminate them. As the largest private employeer in America and the world, Walmart sets the standards for labor conditions in the retail industry."

this isnt necessarily a critical issue, but if people are complaining about it, cut them some slack. what comes around goes around.
Nov 22 2012 10:08PM
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Bill.Nye
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Um, I already did. Secondary strikes are highly effective ways of getting employers to listen to workers demands, and they are illegal.
Nov 22 2012 10:10PM
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ILLinoisance
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Bingo. Wal-Mart is a shitty company, no doubt about it. If the employees really want to stick them in their ass, spread the word that they suck and STOP FUCKING WORKING FOR THEM.
Nov 22 2012 10:10PM
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ILLinoisance
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Oh, I thought you were going to go into detail about how Wal-Mart gets free land and grants from state and local governments, making them able to expand at exponential rates and bring their shitshow of a company to other unmolested areas of the county.

I agree with you, they are highly effective and should be legal.
Nov 22 2012 10:15PM
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Crispy.
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DID NOT READ THREAD

But, tonight at Walmart I saw a lady protesting/striking holding a sign that said "Walmart, always low wages". HOW IGNORANT, STUPID, AND WHINY CAN PEOPLE BE? If you don't like how much they pay you don't work there you stupid bitch.
Nov 22 2012 10:29PM
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Thadius.Castle
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Aside from the door greeter that I'm pretty certain was present at the last summer, most of the employees at my wal-mart are highschool kids. Who fucking cares, you shouldn't rely on working at wal-mart as a career and if you do, then you've probably made some choices in life that have landed you there. If you work for a multi-billion corporation like wal-mart you have to know what you're getting into.
Nov 22 2012 10:42PM
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volvotom
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Here is the problem that I have with Wal Mart: They don't pay their employees rates that essentially put their families under the poverty level such that they then qualify for SNAP, Medicaid, etc. Why should those of us that make lots of money pay for the health insurance and food of employees because WalMart will not? And the nature of EMTALA and other healthcare laws is such that even if they don't have insurance it drives everyone's rates up to compensate.
Nov 22 2012 10:43PM
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GeneralT
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Anon is alll over that.
Nov 22 2012 10:45PM
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marsland
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advising their workers to apply for medicaid so that instead of wal-mart providing them health insurance (they do but it is not good, costs a ton, you need to work 2 years if you work part time and then you cant even put your family on it) those workers are instead getting government health care.

they also cause other jobs to go out of business, force companies to move their manufacturing overseas in order to provide a lower price to the customer. they make a net average of 30 jobs over 5 years for every new store that they open. the average wal-mart employs hundreds of workers, so that is a lot of jobs that they destroy and then they only pay their workers an average of $10 an hour. for everyone that says if you dont like it dont work there, they are the largest employer in the united states, as well as the largest employer in at least 24 of the 50 states. It's not exactly the best job market to quit a job with any steady pay to go look for another job.
Nov 22 2012 10:56PM
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ILLinoisance
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Almost every part time minimum wage job does not give out benefits like paid healthcare. Welcome to the world of unskilled, minimum wage, and part time labor. I would've loved to make $10/hr. in high school.

Yeah, it's not the best job market to look for a job in, but if things are really as bad as people make them seem at Wal-Mart, there shouldn't really be a reason to stay. $10/hr. is way over minimum wage, and a lot of the reason they're able to expand and keep prices so low is because of the preferential treatment, free land, tax breaks, and grants that they get from state and local governments. I say start stripping Wal-Mart of their welfare that they receive from government, change public opinion against them and have people stop buying so much shit from them, and encourage present and potential employees to stay away from them.
Nov 22 2012 11:11PM
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marsland
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the health insurance thing isnt only for part time. they advise their full time employees to pursue government health care like medicaid or state specific government health care rather than have to provide something that they should for full time employees.

you can say that you would love to be making 10$ an hour in high school, but not everyone that works at wal-mart is in high school. sure, its a stupid place to try and make a career or try and raise a family on their wages, but people do it and those are the ones that are having the biggest issues. also, 10$ is the average, and that means that there are so many people trying to make a living for under $10 an hour. with no benefits, terrible health care, and from what i read about this strike being forced to come in on thanksgiving

i doubt this is trueanymore but wal-mart also used to be completely anti-union and would fire employees if they spoke out or voted for a union.

anything i say could be completely wrong, most of my information comes from the book i had to read on wal-mart for class this week.
Nov 22 2012 11:27PM
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n_b
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relavant
Nov 22 2012 11:40PM
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volvotom
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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/whos-really-to-blame-for-the-wal-mart-strikes-the-american-consumer/265542/
Nov 23 2012 12:17AM
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Aiden-P
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first page..... /claim?
Nov 23 2012 12:19AM
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Pikachu.
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Walmart is on it's way to a monopoly and is really hurting small buisneses across america. Isn't small buisnesses what everyone in the government is so concerned about?

I personally have a family friend who owned the family grocery store in a small town. A walmart was built in the town and they were driven out of buisness.

Idk im probably really biased but i think that walmart is only hurting our communities (especially the small ones) because they don't spend enough on their employees and are able to make their costs low as fuck.

You know i have no clue what im talking about

Fuck walmart
Nov 23 2012 12:38AM
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I.B
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I make 11.50 busting my ass working concrete for my dad. Granted that's better then a lot of people and I'm not that skilled of a laborer, but still, then are complaining about 11 an hour? Fuck. Quit and get a new job.
Nov 23 2012 1:00AM
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theBearJew
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Want to make more money? Go get a specialized degree/licence and start working somewhere else. I respect their strike cause I don't think they should be treated like shit. But if you complain and do nothing but complain, I don't feel sorry for you.
Nov 23 2012 8:59AM
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Alexander_Keith
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In nearly every case, at the corporate level, WalMart has decided to close any store where the workers have organized in some meaningful way. It is the ultimate coup de grace. rather than risk crossing the legal threshold of allowing one store to unionize, and others follow suit, the company simply pulls up stakes and leaves. They calculate that the financial burden of allowing one, than many stores to unionize is less than simply nipping the problem in the bud. It is the purest exercise of unharnessed monopolistic power. The employees lose their job and it serves as an example to other stores thinking of the same.

They should operate more like Costco. Their employees aren't unionized but they're treated like fucking gold. THATS nipping the problem in the bud, keep the majority of workers healthy and happy and no union problems. Costco has one of the most solid business models around.
Nov 23 2012 11:35AM
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volvotom
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Costco also manages nearly twice the sales per store that WalMart does.

http://mashable.com/2012/11/13/apple-stores-top-sales-per-square-foot/

It's interesting that Target isn't targeted as much for these type of strikes. Per The Atlantic article, they actually pay less per hour on average. Although I believe that they keep most workers full time (which Wal doesn't) and provide decent benefits to those employees.


Nov 23 2012 2:13PM
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Blake.P
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I actually work at Costco. Regardless of local minimum wage, starting salary is 11/hr at Costco, and 16.50/ hr on Sundays. There are also many benefits for full time employees (health, etc). It is also closed on major holidays, and has an unchanged open hours, so workers never have to deal with shit like 12 am openings on Black Friday
Nov 23 2012 2:20PM
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Peach.
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Sounds fairly decent to me.

Nov 23 2012 2:48PM
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northeast
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get a job somewhere else, then. manual labor jobs are ALWAYS in demand, and you don't need any training to work for an excavator or a landscaper. and the majority of those companies pay $10.00+ per hour. I know you don't want to work hard and you'd rather walk around Walmart stoned ignoring people all day, but here in America we don't stand for that. I'm sure if the entire floor staff of every Walmart wasn't littered with drug addicts, scumbags and other bottom feeders, they'd be paid much better. every time I go to Walmart, I can barely manage to flag down somebody to help me out for five seconds. earn your own money or live on the street.
Nov 23 2012 3:01PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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i find it hilarious that you guys don't talk about pro athletes like this when they go on strike, but when it's a wal-mart strike everyone is all high and mighty
Nov 23 2012 3:07PM
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Alexander_Keith
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Same, They also give you $0.50/ hr raises every 500 hours worked. I used to work summers there when I was a student. They had me on this Student Training Retention Program so i'd leave for school and come back every summer and retain my seniority. Hence hours worked previous summers always counted towards my next raise. I was $13.50/ hr by the time I left. Shit wasn't bad and the free samples were ballin.
Nov 23 2012 3:28PM
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