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What ignorant liberals don't understand about the sacrifices you have to make to become "rich"

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accualyisdolan
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I'm going to use the example of becoming a doctor. All you ns liberals must think becoming a doctor is a shoe in way to make it big. You probably think med school is like a legacy system so u get in because of your parents. Med school is a great example for what it takes to become rich in America.
You liberals just have no clue what sacrifice even means. Imagine the hardest you have ever crammed for a test, pulling an all nighter for example. Now extend that over the better part of a decade. Imagine having studying replace everything you used to do in your life, and infringe on the time you used to sleep so that all u are doing is studying, class/rotations, and not getting enough sleep. Imagine learning so much that it crowds out alot of your best memories, and you then start to realize what fucking sacrifice is. Imagine giving what you thought was 100 percent and it not being enough, and getting out of shape because you have no time to exercise. One of my friends told me about a girl who quit her third year, hundreds of thousands in debt, to work at ruby Tuesdays, because they hit the wall. Now imagine that you have given so much, you fucking well deserve the money you get paid and you have the right to give it to whoever you fucking want to, including your children, but fucking liberals won't stop bitching about raising the fucking death tax, among other taxes, and bitching about the rich getting richer and how it's not fair. Well guess what you fucking tools, the path to getting rich isn't fair and the two unfairnesses cancel out. So while you all enjoy reading ns on a computer the size of a phone, be grateful for once and have some fucking sympathy for how much shit people had to go through before they could build you that phone. Read atlas shrugged you liberal tools, and appreciate what you have in light of how worthless you are.
Nov 6 2012 5:10PM
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Anathema
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nice troll. well timed and nicely executed. 8.74/10
Nov 6 2012 6:48PM
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andrew.ski
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I just don't understand why people who don't have money hate on those who do have? Ok obviously there are a lot of pricks who get it handed down to them (but that generalization usually extremely oversteps its bounds) but the majority of the people who are filling that upper middle class tax bracket are self made "millionaires". Why would you hate on that? That's the american dream. Anyone who is against that is just bitter because misery loves company.

But just what i'm getting at is that we should look at that as inspiration, and do our best to achieve that. Do what you love, but do it well and you will be successful. It doesnt matter if your a doctor, rapper, plumber, or hooker. You work hard and make smart business decisions and you will be in the upper middle class tax bracket. If you spend all your time pissing and moaning about how lame rich people are your gonna be bitter and never get anywhere.

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Nov 6 2012 6:49PM
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lofth
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here in norway we learn that all conservatives are either stupid rednecks or greedy rich people.




really though i have yet to meet a teacher pro Romney. seems to me like over here most people(included myself) lack of understanding conservatives. even democrats would be right wing as fuck here.
Nov 6 2012 6:53PM
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Skierguy1234
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Thanks homie!

but yo, like back to that last kid...

did anyone else laugh reading this OP? I can't take it seriously, OP you do know there are liberal doctors right?

Dre, Doolittle, Octopus, these dudes worked too hard for you to be puttin em down like that.

don't you put that evil on me ricky bobby
Nov 6 2012 6:53PM
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k-rob
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hard work =/= rich. why can't people get this through their skulls? there are rich people who work hard, yes, but not all of them, and there are poor people who don't work hard, yes, but not all of them. the american system creates POVERTY not riches. MOST people work hard regardless of pay. the suggestion that 98+% of americans are not hard workers is the reason there is hate for the rich. it's not because they are rich, it's because they consistently claim the only reason they are rich is because of hard work (they read a book written in the 30's by a rich guy that says so, so it must be true). date of birth, skin colour, location, parenting, education, etc. etc. are all things that CANNOT be overcome simply through hard work. luck is necessary whether you work hard or not.
also, it is the assumption of the rich, that everyone else wants to be rich. this is just plain WRONG. people want to be HAPPY, just because being rich makes one guy happy does not mean it will make everyone else happy. also, MOST people recognize the FACT that not everyone can be rich, and unfortunately, for whatever reason, maybe it's something in the water, this just does not compute in american brains (probably because they grew up being told america is the only place on earth, or in existence for that matter, where anyone can be anything they want(american fairytale bullshit, extremely similar to the eastern fairytale bullshit of communism)).
Nov 6 2012 6:55PM
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kuhlkilla
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1% or Bust
Nov 6 2012 7:00PM
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XtRemE11
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i know a couple wealthy conservatives who were born into poverty where its "next to impossible to get out of the gutter" ones from Brazil, came over here the day after he turned 18, never having graduated 8th grade, with absolutely nothing, worked shit jobs for years, and now is making around 500k a year, at age 28. another guy came over from the UK, similar story, came with nothing, now he's loaded. another grew up in nebraska with no dad, literally lived in a shack with his mom and 3 siblings until he was 18, had made enough money to get a college, spent 12 years getting through school, working a job the whole time, and became a neurosurgeon.

I get that being born poor makes it tougher in some circumstances to become wealthy,but it gets really fucking old hearing the hardcore/stupid half of the liberals saying the rich didnt earn their wealth, the rich are greedy and selfish, wheres my share? etc.. what i really cannot even get close to understanding is how they can call rich greedy for wanting to keep what they earn, but not the poor/themselves who want to take what others have earned and call it theirs. where the fuck is the logic in that?


Nov 6 2012 7:01PM
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shibby
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nobody hates rich people simply because they are rich, stop saying this. They hate them because of how many of them (but not all) became rich, through greed and corruption. Look at Bain, it went around ruining companies and shipping jobs for short term profit. The financial crisis, creating a system destined to fail then getting tax payer bails when it does. Koch bros, wtf.

obviously most rich people did work hard and deserve their wealth. but a lot also made money by fucking those less fortunate over.
Nov 6 2012 7:06PM
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SeanTom
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nowhere but we can't kill off the dumb people. so yea
Nov 6 2012 7:08PM
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Bill.Nye
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Ok well then you're already missing the point, because animosity against "the rich" is usually directed at wealth investors and bankers who quite literally get rich because of the hard work of everyone else.
Nov 6 2012 7:08PM
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shibby
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this, it's hilarious when kids come on here bitching about poor lazy fuck liberals cause their momma makes 250k managing an hr department and they're scared they wont be able to afford a new iphone if a "communist" gets elected. I bet there are VERY few people on NS who even know a rich person.
Nov 6 2012 7:13PM
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SeanTom
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i know a rich person
Nov 6 2012 7:14PM
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wesley.
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It's all about not complaining about sacrifices. I study all night and im only in high school. People think that the only reason to learn is to get to the next step like a college or high paying salary... What happened to learning for the sake of learning?
Nov 6 2012 7:17PM
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andrew.ski
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say what your gonna say man. Im not saying anything about your finances, cause i don't even know you.

"nobody hates rich people" - thats ignorant. Of course they do. im not exactly poor and i never flaunted it, but was always looked at differently and hated on for it growing up.

"hey hate them because of how many of them (but not all) became rich, through greed and corruption" - this is the exact outdated stereotype im talking about. Everyone who is rich (or at least the vast majority, according to the popular consensus here) became that way through being a 21st century "Robber Baron". Humans are humans, but they aren't perfect. When you don't have money it's extremely easy to be an idealist; however, i'd love to see how idealist these folks are when they are put in the same positions as the afore-mentioned "robber barons".


"The financial crisis, creating a system destined to fail then getting tax payer bails when it does. Koch bros, wtf." - You can't change the system. It's a variable not under your control. You can only change the way you play the system.

Nov 6 2012 7:18PM
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shibby
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baha exactly because its a variable under the control of rich people. don't hate the player hate the game right? but don't hate the people who make the rules to the game right? there are very real examples in the world of rich people fucking over others, i gave you two, there are others, like dictatorships.

seriously i really agree with you that most rich people are good folks who got where they are by hard work and perseverance. unfortunately there are some who got there by fucking others, these ones kind of ruin the party.
Nov 6 2012 7:48PM
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andrew.ski
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i know, you are completely right too man, but it exists everywhere. There are pricks in every party, thats why we all need to leave, and start our own city state.
Nov 6 2012 7:50PM
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Anti_Panda
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This thread sucks so hard its not even funny. And all the libs taking this shit seriously are idiots.


Abrotions for some, miniature american flags for all
Nov 6 2012 7:54PM
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brosephstalin
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free abortions for everyone
Nov 6 2012 7:58PM
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GEORGEzimmerman
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most doctors are liberals dumbass. whats your income? whats your occupation? how do you know what it takes to be a doctor or rich? my mom is a doctor and we could be wealthy but are not, we are middle class because my mom is a liberal and pays more than she needs to in taxes because she feels it is her duty as an American. This thread is now Dolan

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Nov 6 2012 7:58PM
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XtRemE11
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most doctors are liberal? actually quite the opposite, a majority of them also oppose obamacare
Nov 6 2012 8:03PM
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GEORGEzimmerman
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so your telling me doctors, one of the most scientific professions, are republicans....
Nov 6 2012 8:06PM
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Sno.
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There are republicans who aren't religious. There are quite a few, actually. There are also doctors who are religious. I know. Mind=blown.

Nov 6 2012 8:11PM
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Bill.Nye
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First of all, Obamacare isn't liberal. Like at all. It was straight up copied from what Mitt Romney did in MA, which was an idea started by conservatives who were looking for a right wing alternative to Single payer healthcare.

Secondly, you're wrong. As a group, the data suggests that doctors are actually more supportive of a public option than the general public. About 3/4 of them believe there should be a public option (a public option or single payer is ACTUALLY liberal, individual mandate is NOT).
Nov 6 2012 8:12PM
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.AR6rider.
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Fucking LOL. No, I didn't read anything other than the OP, and I don't plan to. Hahahaha.
Nov 6 2012 8:13PM
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PhaedeD
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most of you will only be liberals for about 5 to 8 more years. enjoy!
Nov 6 2012 8:13PM
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Anti_Panda
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jesus thats a dumb statement. I know you were trying to be smart but holy shit. Yes, every doctor is a republican and every republican believes in creationism. These are just widely known facts
Nov 6 2012 8:14PM
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andrew.ski
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cool i have three uncles who are doctors, and my dad is a partner in a firm that only caters to doctors and dentists. I organized w-2's and tax returns in a back room of every doctor and dentist managed by the firm for a little over 6 summers, and have had some form of dinner/barbecue/get together with like 50 of them. I know how they live, i know how much they make, i know what they pay in taxes, etc. Also i was really interested so i always asked them alot of questions about education, occupation, life, and politics.


Excuse me for objecting, but i'm kinda not a dumbass in this regard.
Nov 6 2012 8:15PM
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Ric.
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Shut the fuck up, noone likes you dolan
Nov 6 2012 8:15PM
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Bill.Nye
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I was a conservative when I was in HS then became a liberal when I moved into the "real world."
Nov 6 2012 8:15PM
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accualyisdolan
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Dental school is for failures at life. Sorry buddy
Nov 6 2012 8:17PM
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Anti_Panda
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nothin like someone in their early twenties preaching about how much life experience they have. This thread still sucks but provides the lols
Nov 6 2012 8:19PM
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.AR6rider.
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You're a fucking retard. Straight up. There is no other way to give it to you lightly. Sorry, buddy.
Nov 6 2012 8:20PM
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Anti_Panda
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a well run dental practice can easily gross 1.3 million with one doctor
Nov 6 2012 8:21PM
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GEORGEzimmerman
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You couldnt be a dentist if you tried.
Nov 6 2012 8:23PM
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accualyisdolan
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Lol @ America creates poverty. We don't even have true poverty in America. Go to Bangladesh where people earn 100 bucks a year. That's poverty
Nov 6 2012 8:23PM
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andrew.ski
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better yet, if you do well in dental school and become an orthodontist, a well run ortho practice can gross even more, and you work 3 days a week/retire at 55.
Nov 6 2012 8:24PM
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XtRemE11
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your talking about a public option, not the actual affordable care act itself. the affordable care act i do not agree with, and from what ive read, neither do doctors, but if i remember right something like 50 percent of doctors think we need healthcare reform. which i also agree with.
Nov 6 2012 8:24PM
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.AR6rider.
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Way to ignore the last 3 posts because you realized how fucking asinine your statement was. Good work!
Nov 6 2012 8:24PM
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aquinn
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I know plenty of doctors that are liberals, being a doctor doesn't make you a republican for one. It comes down to whether or not you feel a responsibility to your fellow countryman. Some don't and feel it's individual, others do.

I didn't like either man per say in this election but I think Romney's a douche, and I feel like raiding his 20 mil house on my lake. I don't like the direction that Obama is pushing with assault weapon bans, but kind of the lesser of two evils in my opinion.

When it comes to healthcare, I figure it should be offered as an option for all. I know plenty of families that work much harder than those with healthcare, and have been paying off an ER visit 10 years down the line.
Nov 6 2012 8:25PM
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Anti_Panda
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6 months smiles. My brother is a DMD and does braces as well
Nov 6 2012 8:26PM
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accualyisdolan
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And shibby yes plenty of people do hate the rich out of jealousy
Nov 6 2012 8:26PM
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stalefish.
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phaeded. born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
Nov 6 2012 8:27PM
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stalefish.
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hahahaha what??
Nov 6 2012 8:28PM
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brosephstalin
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yea poverty doesn't exist in a country where kids are forced to eat rats cause parents can't afford food

jesus fucking christ pull your head out of your ass, man.
Nov 6 2012 8:30PM
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accualyisdolan
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And you do "earn" your interest on capital. There is an inherent risk putting your money in bank etc. in fact you could argue that do to inflation we have had negative real interest rates over the past few years. Jesus Christ I over estimated these fucking retards
Nov 6 2012 8:31PM
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NotGhood
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a "shoe in way to make it big" in Canada is to be good at hockey.

/doing it right?
Nov 6 2012 8:32PM
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accualyisdolan
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I couldn't WANT to be a dentist if I tried. Dental is for people who couldn't get into med. unless your obsessed with teeth
Nov 6 2012 8:36PM
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theabortionator
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/thread
Nov 6 2012 8:36PM
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Bill.Nye
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I might not have much life experience but I have a hell of a lot more than most of the users on this website.

I was just pointing out the trend line to contrast against Phaded's assertion, not trying to prove that people get more liberal as they get older.

The USA is much more liberal than most people will let you believe anyway. A large majority support Social Security, single payer health care, raising taxes on the wealthy, tougher wall street regulation, and gay marriage and marijuana legalization are becoming more and more popular all the time.
Nov 6 2012 8:37PM
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Bill.Nye
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Yes, an ACTUAL liberal idea, which 3/4 doctors SUPPORT.
Nov 6 2012 8:38PM
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