They're great if you want to double eject, turn out of them, and blow your knee every season. Stay off those cheap markers. Even the Squire, Jester, Duke, and all the others are garbage. I know a lot of the members on here love them. But after seeing how many broken pairs came into the shop while I worked there, and how many injuries they caused, I'll never set foot on those deathtraps. Get a pair of look px12's or 14's. If you want a higher performance binding you could pickup some pivot 14's on sale.