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Newsweek's 10 best presidents since 1900

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Amadeus.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/24/the-presidential-perception-gap.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2012/09/24/from-franklin-delano-roosevelt-to-john-f-kennedy-newsweek-s-10-best-presidents-photos.html#215f70cc-54cb-4597-8f5f-5312189208fa

Employing a panel of 10 distinguished historians—spanning several generations—Newsweek ranked the 10 best presidents since 1900. From Theodore Roosevelt to Barack Obama, here's a first look at our list of the men who made the cut.

1. Franklin Roosevelt

2. Teddy Roosevelt

3. Lyndon Johnson

4. Dwight Eisenhower

5. Woodrow Wilson

6. Harry Truman

7. Bill Clinton

8. John Kennedy

9. Ronald Reagan

10. Barack Obama

The top two finishers among the public were Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton.
The top two finishers among the historians were Franklin Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt
Lyndon Johnson and Woodrow Wilson—3rd and 5th, respectively, in the historians’ poll—didn’t make the public’s top 10
JFK ranked 8th with historians and 4th with the public
Eisenhower was rated 4th by historians and 8th by the public
Barack Obama—ranked 5th by the public and 10th by historians

Public vote. Only presidents with no overlap shown.

1 Reagan
2 Clinton
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4 Kennedy
5 Obama
6 Truman
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8 Eisenhower
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Sep 26 2012 11:00AM
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lands11
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Now I am an Obama supporter, but he shouldn't be on the list, he has 4 more years to go...........
Sep 26 2012 8:58PM
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PhaedeD
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why are you a supporter?
Sep 26 2012 9:00PM
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Ac31stuff
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Yeah what was the criteria worst wars ever started? I mean come on. That being said he was one of the best presedents at politics and got the civil rights act through.Also what the fuck is woodrow wilson doing on that list he was one of the most racist presidents ever.
Sep 26 2012 9:04PM
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.ZT.
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Wow that post got people worked up....

Dude, that's my brother in 7th or 8th grade, lol, why do you assume that is me. Did you get that from his old photo/video blog on wordpress or some shit. But my point is I don't think you're stupid in terms of politics(you are probably well educated in it and know more than me), I think you're stupid to get so heated on it when we are on a skiing forum, and also to completely say Obama has done NOTHING. I am sorry, I said that though. No need to get upset, I was up most of the night and was really tired and I overreacted completely and looked like a dumbass.

Also the reason I haven't "come back" until now is because I have a life outside NS and was skating all day in Boston.

My point is (or lack there of) saying Obama did nothing makes no sense, regardless of whether you like him or not, I agree he shouldn't be on the list though, and I don't want to get into an argument about that because that defeats the purpose of my post. As for my real age, I am only 15, (I am still interested in Politics and know a decent amount about it.) so i shouldn't be talking about this shit, and was stupid to even say that, but arguing about it will get you nowhere and I've seen way too many of these arguments. that end in copy and pasted essays/articles or threads that die out. I basically was saying why bother argue?, and that saying Obama has done absolutely nothing is ignorant or a little harsh as others in this thread have said.

I am truly sorry I was being a dick and calling you an idiot for thinking that, but I disagree completely (however as I said earlier I don't agree with the Newsweek list at all). It was immature to call you an idiot, but please no need to get so upset.

If this comes off angry it is not, I only wish to apologize for my stupid post and explain it. I hope that you neglect that post and move on, because it was dumb. Peace to you man.




Sep 26 2012 9:08PM
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PhaedeD
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simple question :)


causseee kanye wessttt likes him DUHH!!!
Sep 26 2012 9:11PM
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lands11
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I'm not getting into this on NS, I have better shit to do.
Sep 26 2012 9:18PM
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PhaedeD
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the answer of a true college student Obama supporter. ROFLS.
Sep 26 2012 9:20PM
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Dustin.
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The man got a Nobel Peace Prize before he even entered office, ultimate badass.  Make money simply for existing.
Sep 26 2012 9:25PM
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lands11
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You are right, my "better shit to do" comment includes writing a lab report and studying. My bad if I don't want to argue politics on the internet. We both know it's not going to get us anywhere, especially on NS. For the record I am registered independent and agree with both sides on different issues.
Sep 26 2012 9:28PM
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cwillygood
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that is a huge joke, Obama should be nowhere close to this list, he hasnt cut down the debt at all, the economy is crap, and he cant seem to handle any crisis in the middle east but he always glazes it all over with "we killed bin laden", and whenever people ask he question he always blames it on bush
Sep 26 2012 9:31PM
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Jeebus.
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you're forgetting that he won the noble peace prize for doing.... uhhh... oh yeah, absolutely nothing..
Sep 26 2012 9:32PM
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.ZT.
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is it one from his wordpress? read! it's not me or my word press. Where did you even get the photo of my brother?

I seriously wish you would drop it, I apologize for calling you out, but putting pics of my brother on here is a little ridiculous.
Sep 26 2012 9:42PM
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Trollolo
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History is kind to presidents. People remember what they want to remember. Reagan is now a GOP hero, Clintons favorables are at there highest ever. Its not a coincidence the older ones are at the top.
Sep 26 2012 9:45PM
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XtRemE11
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im not seeing anything you posted about 200 good things. anyway, just to please you, i did go look up a list of 100 things he's done, and more than half of them i disagree with, probably 1/4 is just meaningless BS mentioned to make the list look better. there were maybe 10 things i actually thought were decent things he's done.

i guess the better thing to say would be, how has Obama improved America. you're right, he has done things, but its extremely debatable whether or not they have helped.
Sep 26 2012 9:53PM
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*Dos*Planker*
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your opinion against several highly qualified individuals, sound logic.
Sep 26 2012 9:57PM
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baethoven
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The only positive thing he's done is convince my parents to move to Australia if he's reelected. Too bad I'll have to finish up college in the states.. Oh well, can't wait to vacation there!
Sep 26 2012 9:59PM
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BlackCupid
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FDR at the top of the list? lol. no. The fact that Lyndon Johnson made the list at all is also ridiculous. Nixon was a better president than Johnson.

The top two should be Reagan and Clinton.
Sep 26 2012 10:04PM
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C-Burg
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He did get the Noble Prize for Excellence in doing Nothing...
Sep 26 2012 10:08PM
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tripnip
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Guys.... Guys.... Guys... the man killed osama. common. it wasn't the military it was bamma. kidding that's bull shit the guy has done nothing but spent money lost us our AAA rating and employed a bumbling idiot as a vice president. that list is probably an ad for relect
Sep 26 2012 10:09PM
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tripnip
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Alan Brinkley writes text books. And is an openly spoken democrat.
Sep 26 2012 10:11PM
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C-Burg
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With all the BS News Week prints I am surprised Carter was "ranked" #1
Sep 26 2012 10:12PM
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Chompo.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OBAMA!?!?!? YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
Sep 26 2012 10:36PM
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ski-racer
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You are an idiot. First of all, that list is pretty accurate. What other president's are you going to put on there? Taft, Carter, Hoover, GWB and GHWB are your other choices. There is an argument for GHWB to be on there but not really. Secondly, to say Obama did nothing shows how uninformed you are. He happened to manage the worst financial crisis since October of 1929 plus passed possibly the most influential social legislation since LBJ's Great Society plan and all that it encompassed. I am not sure that this is "absolutely nothing".
Sep 26 2012 10:47PM
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PhaedeD
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^ how did he manage it when things have gotten worse(further in debt)??
Sep 27 2012 9:38AM
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PhaedeD
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Oh and his social legislation is about to fuck this country but ya you know what you're talking about.
Sep 27 2012 9:39AM
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lands11
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/ I didn't heck sources, but it's worth a read.
Sep 27 2012 9:43AM
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PhaedeD
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I dont care about your article. Look at the nations debt when he took office and where it is now and oh dont forget he campaigned on cutting the debt in half within 4 years. oh its bout doubled...oh.
Sep 27 2012 10:01AM
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lands11
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Dude I was just posting something I found interesting, I didn't mention anything about whether he increased debt or not, chill the fuck out. Saying you don't care about the article gives me the impression that trying to talk to you about politics would be pointless because of how one sided you are. I could be wrong but that's the impression I get.
Sep 27 2012 10:56AM
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PhaedeD
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I will never chill out. Obama blows dick. He will blow dick for 4 more years. Maybe Romney will blow dick but at least someone else can give it a shot.
Sep 27 2012 11:06AM
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lands11
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Just like you said, Obama has 4 more years.
Sep 27 2012 11:09AM
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deleted5
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I like jimmy c as a person but he was a pretty bad president.
Sep 27 2012 11:27AM
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PhaedeD
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ya most likely and that sucks because this country will be fucked by the end of those 4 years. And he will be elected by college kids and black people again that have no clue wtf they are voting for.

Sep 27 2012 11:45AM
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lands11
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People having no clue what they are voting for happens on both sides.
Sep 27 2012 11:46AM
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PhaedeD
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no shit but more so on the side of college students and black people who have never voted before in their entire life but because a black guy(half black) was running shitttt time to come out and vote.... and get my house paid for and my car and my kids school and everything!!
Sep 27 2012 11:49AM
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lands11
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Show me a source for that
Sep 27 2012 11:50AM
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XtRemE11
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seriously, you should have seen my school during the 2008 election, so many people with obama shirts and stickers and pins, i wouldnt be surprised if i heard him being black a legit reason for voting for him a couple hundred times. it sucks, but his race probably is a huge factor for gaining a huge amount of votes.
Sep 27 2012 1:19PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Cant argue with #1. IMO one of the top Presidents ever for what he accomplished.

But I have a large issue with Obama being judged before this and IMO unfortunately his next term are over.

Cant do anything about that though. He is more of a celebrity than a president now in some peoples eyes. The way some people talk about him here you would think he is the Black Jesus.
Sep 27 2012 1:42PM
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Gnarbangalakazoo
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Ware.The.Fuck. is Dan Quale.

He was a vice president but still that would be funny if he made the list.
Sep 27 2012 1:52PM
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Sdot.
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Quality post. There were multiple presidents who were slave owners, among other things, yet America considers them to be among the greatest ever.

I would definitely have to agree with the historians' listing the Roosevelts in the top slots. I'd also agree with Clinton and Kennedy, but I feel that Carter should be in there, too. He did some really great things for Alaska (in my opinion; many of you would disagree). I wouldn't put Reagan so high.

Sep 27 2012 2:06PM
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ski-racer
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As one of those "uninformed" college kids you speak of, I believe that there are some people that are uninformed but many that are extremely well informed. I read BBC(about as centered as it gets for news) everyday and also generally read The Washington Post daily. On top of this, I watch Stewart and Colbert every monday-thursday night. To call me uninformed is just false. I will follow with some examples of why you shouldn't call all of us uninformed.

Regarding your point about the debt, I would like to say that even though Obama did campaign on debt reduction no one knew at that time the trouble that the economy was in. When an economy os doing shitty, the only cure is to push money in and get things rolling again. You can't expect it to magically get better while simultaneously reducing federal spending. It is not a bad time for us to be borrowing debt. The interest rate on our debt is extremely low right now thanks to our strong bonds which are also keeping interest rates low for everyone thanks to the Feds quantitative easing policy. In regards to his social policy, I would simply like to ask you to explain to me as to why "Obamacare" is bad for the country.

And to you my good sir, I would like to challenge you to try to get informed through means other than those related to fox news. Don't turn Rush on the radio or watch Fox news for a month. Instead, read BBC and maybe watch Colbert/Stewart so that you can find humor in the mess that is politics but also learn to form your own opinion and become less of a fucking prick racist. Here is a start. http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/tue-september-25-2012-king-abdullah-ii
Sep 27 2012 4:03PM
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Zimmerman
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This list is pretty bad but I definitely think FDR is the best of all time.
Sep 27 2012 4:29PM
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howlongcanausern
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i'd have to agree. it's a shame he passed away just before the war ended.
Sep 27 2012 4:33PM
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XtRemE11
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lol, you sound informed all right..
Sep 28 2012 11:59AM
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deleted5
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This, I get my political facts from a comedy show.
Sep 28 2012 3:42PM
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PhaedeD
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borrowing when you are already massively in debt... sure its a must but not at the rate we are doing it and who gives a fuck about interests rates when you are already in the hole as far as we are.

get a grip dude, you arent getting great information for comedy shows.

just do a simple search of Obamacare taxes and you will get information immediately from no biased sources that break down how Obamacare is being paid for, its fucked. have fun.
Sep 29 2012 11:27AM
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brosephstalin
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A powerful man sexually assaulted a young intern, slashed welfare, killed 500,000 Iraqi kids with sanctions, had the good sense to bomb countries during an economic boom. freaking owned rethuglicans tho.
Sep 29 2012 8:41PM
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brosephstalin
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oh yeah and how could a list of america's best presidents not be complete without everyones favorite imperialist pig-dog/baby napalmer LBJ.
Sep 29 2012 8:44PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Didn't bother reading the thread, as people were already being dumb in the first few posts, to those saying 'how is Obama on there,' it is simple, there have been 20 presidents since 1900, that means he is in the top half. If you were in a race with 100 people, and finished 50th does that mean you did good? No. Just because he is in the top 10 presidents since 1900 doesn't mean it did a good job, all it shows is how shitty the US is at picking/producing good politicians anymore.
Sep 29 2012 9:13PM
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brosephstalin
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you don't know what you're talking about.
Sep 29 2012 9:24PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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How? I didn't comment on a single president on the list?...I haven't said my opinion on Obama, or Clinton or Raegan or anyone, I'm just saying being in the top 50% doesn't mean anything. Over the past 100 years, the US hasn't done a good job of electing presidents.

I don't know what changed, but if you look at the first 20 presidents, and compare them to the last 20 presidents, what group would you say was better overall? Maybe that is because history looks more favorably over time, but I'm not sure what I don't know about...
Sep 29 2012 9:43PM
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