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Question to guys with real cameras on the mountain.

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b_r_tregs
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I was wondering should i just bag the go pro and bring my t3i with me on the mountain. But when i'm not filming should i just keep it in a locker or a backpack?
Sep 4 2012 7:41AM
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michael_bc
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My parents got me the first IBM PC when I was 5. Way too complex of a computer for a 5-year-old. I was programming by the time I was 7. Now I have a PhD in computer science, and while getting that degree was able to ski 150+ days a year. Now what's the problem with kids having access to technology?

Some of you are just hating because many of these kids will be better than you one day.

"You don't deserve this camera" is the biggest load of bullshit in the world. It's a line insecure people use to coerce their friends into buying shitty gear hoping they will never exceed their shitty levels.
Sep 6 2012 3:28AM
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michael_bc
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One more thing to all the people saying the OP should get a cheap camcorder instead.

I too once followed this advice on newschoolers. I went from cheap compact > Panasonic GS 500 camcorder (as used to be hyped on newschoolers) > Nikon D5000 > Nikon D7000.

That Panasonic camcorder is the dumbest thing I ever bought. I lost several hundred dollars on a device with shit resolution, obsolete in a year, no resale value, and absolutely no upgrade path. I should have gone with a DSLR straight away.

When I picked up my D5000 I knew nothing. I didn't know what aperture was, I didn't know what ISO was, I didn't know about bokeh or how to achieve it, nothing. I guess a D5000 was about equivalent to the T3i from the OP at the time. Well this entry-level DSLR is the best thing I ever bought. It came with an excellent manual, and a HELP button on the camera! The help button explains whatever feature you are looking at. I learned a ton. Heck, I spent the first 6 months shooting in AUTO and with the kit lens. Who cares? I learned everything. And I was able to sell this camera for 80% of what I paid for it when I upgraded to a D7000.

Entry-level DSLRs are great for beginners. They are incredibly cheap, you learn a ton, and there is a clear upgrade path. On the other hand, buying a mediocre camcorder is a waste of money. Entry-level DSLR or micro43 most def. wins.
Sep 6 2012 5:47AM
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Aftleet
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Simple answer to thread - find a place to store video equipment - lift house (usually heated great for getting rid of moisture) - locker - usually cold, moisture condensation bad for any AF equipment unproperly stored equipment, or just wet gear in general. Good luck with the camera
Sep 6 2012 6:00AM
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C.A.V.
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hahahah, you guys are so mean, its all good in da hood! respect for this kid
Sep 6 2012 8:05AM
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.qzyxya
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this
Sep 6 2012 10:00AM
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gravel
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so to OP, fuck the haters, do what interests you, and have some fun with it.
Sep 6 2012 10:05AM
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DopeNZ
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Hah, its that guy... Irony.
Sep 7 2012 10:24AM
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juicedrummer11
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holy balls there are some dicks in here. to the OP, i think it was mentioned above, but anytime i leave my camera bag, i usually just ask the lifties if i can put it in there little shack area or just right next to the door at least, if anything, they won't touch it cuz they could care less but more importantly, no one else will fuck with it cuz they will think its the lifties bag. win win.
Sep 7 2012 12:04PM
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.qzyxya
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I agree but really? The 60d isn't the cheapest lowest most basic model on the market. Its 800 bucks and is definitely not cheap and low end basic.
Sep 10 2012 6:10PM
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ski_utah
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thank you, thank you, thank you for saying this, exactly what i was thinking
Sep 10 2012 7:17PM
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[~_~]
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It's relative. A $2,000 car is considered "cheap," despite the fact that $2,000 is not a negligible amount of money. The butt hurt people in this thread are just confused because they don't have enough experience with video to realize that $800 is, in fact, relatively dirt cheap.
Sep 10 2012 7:53PM
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horner
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Times have changed. I wish DSLRs were around when I was learning to shoot, I had to do it the hard way.

These things called "35mm adapters" were my DSLR... A metal box or tube with a spinning piece of plastic that ran off a 9 volt battery. Usually, even with the nicer ones, you were constantly taking it apart, replacing motors, calibrating it, doing something. Oh, and without a special optical device, the image was upside down! All that work for the "35mm" look.

Point is... well, not really sure, felt like rambling.

Check out these antiques.
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That ends the quick history lesson on the time before dslrs. Kids, be glad that you have access to this amazing imaging technology.
Sep 10 2012 11:07PM
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B.Taillefer
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To the OP: When I am filming, I usually dedicate that entire day to filming, or have a friend that knows how to fully operate my camera as I do (thankfully I have friends that can do this). I wouldn't want to be leaving my camera around ANYWHERE on the mountain unless its with a liftie, but other than that you really just have to dedicate the day to filming.

Also to the argument in this thread, the whole "that kid doesn't deserve a nice camera" thing is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. I broke my collarbone this year and needed something to do because I couldn't bear to sit around not skiing, so I decided to film my friends just with a little GoPro like the OP. I decided that I actually really quite enjoyed filming and editing, and almost immediately made the jump to Premiere Pro (granted the trial version) and filming with friends cameras, like an XF 100 and a Canon T3i, and started putting out edits that not only other people were stoked on, but that I was incredibly satisfied with.

My level of filming and editing improved tremendously because of this, all because I was pushing myself to learn how to fully operate the cameras and editing software I had access to, because I loved it, nothing more. Honestly if I hadn't made the jump to the better equipment I would never have progressed as much, as I would not have been pushing myself. From personal experience I know that any questions you may have with cameras or editing software can be answered because of the abundance of knowledge the internet and other resources hold.

We should be supporting this kid, you never know, maybe he will love it and became a fantastic filmer.
Sep 11 2012 12:29AM
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bo0b
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Exactly. Does it affect you if he has a camera and wants to learn something he may grow to love? Probably not.
Sep 11 2012 1:19AM
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*SID*
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well, I'm 15, I got a t3i because i bought an apple stock at the age of 7 for $125 and sold it this year for $675, no relation to this thread just a comment
Sep 11 2012 12:48PM
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JzD.
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Smart
Sep 11 2012 2:12PM
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*SID*
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Sep 11 2012 3:08PM
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monkatizer
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i was right

heres his newest "edit":

Oct 18 2012 4:41PM
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Juicy-J
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soo much hate in this thread. personally, I own a t2i and I love it. yeah sure i would love to have gotten a 60d or a 7d or a 5d, but none of those cameras were in my budget. leave the kid alone, I think its sick that he wants to improve his videos by getting a DSLR and im all for it! I went from a gopro to a dslr, and within the first 3 months I have produced edits that I couldnt imagine producing before. Example A. example B.

Siobhan & Kirill 09/01/12 from Pat Sheils on Vimeo.

BSP 2012 from Pat Sheils on Vimeo.

I know im not anywhere near where I want to be, but ive had the t2i for a little more than 3 1/2 months and I am already producing much better quality videos.

INB4 hate
Oct 18 2012 8:08PM
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Juicy-J
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i have more videos here as well https://vimeo.com/user12721523
Oct 18 2012 8:09PM
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kalum.ko
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This thread is hilarious.. But seriously, I think it's rad its affordable that a 13 year old can get a cam like a T3i. They are simple to use and why spend only 200ish less on a shitty camera when for that little bit extra you have a camera you can 'grow into' (at least for a bit). I used my t2i up until I lost it in the summer and I would still be using it to this date if I didn't.. Sure I started off not knowing how to use the cam to it full potential but with the internet and shit now it is soo quick for a complete beginner learn how to use a DSLR, IMO but it would be dumb not to buy one as your first cam (if you are considering getting into video/ photo) My brother is wanting to get into video and Im getting him to do the t2i route rather then a GoPro for his first cam. If he bought some shitty cam to start out with IMO he would learn a lot less then if he started with DSLR, and he will be able to shoot alright with a T2i in a couple of months I would guess...
Oct 18 2012 9:27PM
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tBatt
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Yeah, but you're still a douche.
Oct 19 2012 5:18PM
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b_r_tregs
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This is one of those instances where i think ns needs a like button
Oct 19 2012 7:04PM
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JuliusJ
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Oct 19 2012 7:26PM
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monkatizer
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this is one of the instances where the dislike button came in very handy


https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/712870/
Oct 19 2012 7:42PM
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