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Malcolm
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http://shredsauce.com

Hello! I've been working on this as a little side project over the summer. It's way better if you have a controller but you can play with the keyboard if you don't have one. Try it, there are plenty of bugs!
Aug 7 2012 12:02AM
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ikindalikeskiing
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is it worth getting a controller? and i haven't read through this thread but you can do five lincolns if you bomb it to the wall. game is so much fun i just wish at this point the spinning/flipping was easier to control and that you could tail/nose press rails
Aug 21 2012 2:00AM
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KillaSteeze
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so much better with the controller, spinning/flipping is way easier to control and slow down, plus much more fun to use for rails
Aug 21 2012 2:04AM
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BITS
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Most fun ski game ever. Period.

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Adjustments:
- When he skis switch and looks over left shoulder, he doesnt crouch when pressing UP ARROW.

- You can speed up and/or on boxes/rails with UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW.


Ideas:
- Sound (skiing, carving, popping, sliding, landing, falling)

- Huge kicker (JOI, WCS etc.)

- DFD hand-rail

- Quad kink

- Close-out rail

- C-box / C-rail

- S-box / S-rail

- Nollie

- Presses

- Butters

- Taps

- Bonks

- Faster surface switch-ups (With skis closer together when 50-50'ing and switch 50-50'ing)

- More stylish tail grabs (example: https://vimeo.com/23349132 , or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UjRWI8Hf4&feature=player_embedded#!)

- Ability to load more pop/spin for ex. 360 swaps on flatboxes, by holding SPACE for longer time.

- Safety grab, leading safety grab and truckdriver grab on boxes/rails
- Method grab on keyboard (again)

- Tweaked mute grab (see: https://vimeo.com/9407174 (1:23))

- Crashing/falling

- Ability to take off skis and hike
Aug 21 2012 3:35AM
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zerospinskier
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With the current setup of the lincoln button on the controller, I like the keyboard better. You need to be able to slightly lincoln in both directions to make your corks work properly.
Aug 21 2012 3:35AM
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ohboy
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agree.
I prefer keyboard at the moment just because I dont like the controls for controllers.
Aug 21 2012 8:06AM
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finchski
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it would be awesome if the controls were the same as skate
Aug 21 2012 8:45AM
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belden...
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CHANGE THE CONTROLLER LINCOLNS TO R1 AND R2

im gonna post this on every page until it happens
Aug 21 2012 9:47AM
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GPO
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this
Aug 21 2012 9:53AM
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ForeverYung
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CLOSE OUT TO THAT HUGE DROP
Aug 21 2012 9:54AM
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.ZT.
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If you need feature Ideas, how about some tune rails or a close out or S- Rail. Also maybe a hip or quarterpipe.
Aug 21 2012 10:22AM
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roddy116
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CREEPER RAIL!!
Aug 21 2012 10:27AM
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Blindinglight
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Love the game, but it would be a lot more fun if it had multiplayer.  I know some of the other posts mentioned the idea before, but i am just trying to stress the importance of it =p.  You probably wouldn't even have to pay for the servers.  Just ask around on newschoolers and you will get tons of donations :)
Aug 21 2012 10:37AM
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Amadeus.
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scissoring
Aug 21 2012 10:42AM
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Malcolm
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Hey, you're talking about the triggers right? I know exactly how you feel about the lincolns. I remember I used to bug Gnarshmallow all the time about bringing back the old axis. I wasn't planning on having lincolns at first but my friend convinced me that it was a must. I figured that I could use the click on the left thumbstick to go into lincoln mode, that way you'd have all 3 axes on one thumbstick. I really don't want you guys to hate the way the controller is set up but let me just explain why I did it that way.

I always planned on using L2 and R2 to tweak grabs. I could also have mapped the grab tweaking to L1 and R1 and have the lincoln axis mapped to the triggers but I thought it would be awkward to have four fingers on the back at all times. Are there any games that you do that with? (I could also do the opposite and map the lincoln axis to L1 and R1 but then you wouldn't have the sensitivity which is the whole point of playing with the controller)

The driver for the PS3 controller that comes already installed on a Mac doesn't support trigger sensitivity which is retarded and there's no way of changing the settings. This could easily be fixed by having people install a different driver. I'm pretty sure Tattiebogle has a beta PS3 version. The thing is you wouldn't be able to just plug your controller in and play if you had a Mac and a PS3 controller

There's also the problem that the triggers are used for braking. So you're trying to slow down and hit a few bumps you might just start doing random lincolns.
Aug 21 2012 12:32PM
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ohboy
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Which is why there should just be button mapping in game ;)
That way everyone can set up their controller however they would like to.
Aug 21 2012 12:35PM
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Nessie
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To map controls on a controller go to this link http://www.utorrent.com/downloads/ then download utorrent. Now you go to this link http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7263842/Xpadder_v2012.05.01 and click "Get this Torrent". After it is downloaded install it and then go to this link http://xpadder.com/forum4/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=2fe63cc270c28c232079a94c6c551300 for instructions. Unfortunately This is only for windows.
Aug 21 2012 12:55PM
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Poikenz
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I don't like that argument, on the keyboard if you want to go fast without jumping you press up, so if you are going fast and hit a bump you will start doing random fronts/ nose dive speed killers.

I think it should work with both analog sticks. Have the left one do fronts, backs, and left right spin while the right analog stick controls lincolns (l & r) and speed (up and down). or put all the flips on one and the spins separate, it's something that would have to be worked on to get a perfect layout on.
Aug 21 2012 1:20PM
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Malcolm
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True, I made it so that if you don't pop then you have to wait a tiny bit to start spinning/flipping. I could just add that to lincolns as well.

How would you do grabs then? I like the right thumbstick for grabs because of how many possibilities there are.
Aug 21 2012 1:35PM
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yourthemannowdog
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I love how people assume it's simple to produce and design sound for a game. What Malcom has done is amazing, but he severely limited by his man power. Adding butters, sound, nollie's, presses, bonk, taps, and ESPECIALLY taking off skis requires LOTS of code.

Adding features and that type of content is not difficult. Adding features to the gameplay is difficult.

Aug 21 2012 1:40PM
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TNORTS
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IF YOU WANT TO SET LINCOLN LOOPS TO TRIGGERS, DO EVERYTHING THIS GUY SAID.

when you open the program, create your controller layout, and then when your done with that create a profile. You can keep everything in the controller profile the same, but set the triggers to G and H, the respective controls on the keyboard. You can now lincoln with the triggers. Any questions PM me.
Aug 21 2012 2:22PM
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BITS
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I do not "assume it's simple to produce and design sound for a game". I'm just sharing my ideas on the game. Nothing else, I'm no nerdy magician when it comes to computers.
Aug 21 2012 3:14PM
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Big.Bird
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im running 10.6.8 on mac with the newest tattlebogger driver and a madcatz gamepad. for some reason the controller only works once in a while and its extremely annoying, unplugging the controller and restarting dont always work.. +K for help
Aug 21 2012 3:50PM
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OG_Loc
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one word: superman frontflips
Aug 21 2012 3:51PM
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.Hugo.
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ummmmm
Aug 21 2012 3:52PM
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K-Dot.
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purple words: taco 3
Aug 21 2012 4:12PM
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_DUSTY_
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I like the idea of havin L2 and R2 for lincolns. Couldn't you click on R3 to tweak grabs? Seems to make sense since it's the grab button. And I don't mind installing a Ps3 driver if it means I can lincoln and spin at the same time.
Aug 21 2012 4:33PM
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Malcolm
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Right click only gives you one possible tweak whereas the triggers give you 3.
Aug 21 2012 4:35PM
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SamMcChesney
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you should update it soon with tweaking :)
Aug 21 2012 4:46PM
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Malcolm
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I'm willing to work with you guys to get the perfect controller set up. I want people to have to do the least amount of work possible to get their controller working. In a perfect work controllers would be just as easy to get working as a mouse. There would be one standard and all controllers would work on all computers without needing drivers.

You can post your thoughts about either the controller or keyboard layout in this cult thread:
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/cult/forumthread/thread_id/705245/
Aug 21 2012 4:51PM
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DUKES
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still says bad file length. i wanna play the updated version so bad right now
Aug 21 2012 6:39PM
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KillaSteeze
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Aug 21 2012 6:51PM
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Poikenz
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Trigger buttons could be grabs, but then you only have 4, so I see what you mean. I am just used to on tour stuff. and the tweak button could always just be something like l3 or r3 so you can tweak and maintain the grab/ change the grab easily or something like that.

As I said, setting up the controller usage might not be the hardest but it certainly makes the game that much more enjoyable when it is set up nicely, which usually takes opinions and trial and error.
Aug 21 2012 7:06PM
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ohboy
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Anyone have any good backcountry lines? If so, please tell where they are. I have a fun one but Ive played it so much that it's boring now...
Aug 21 2012 7:07PM
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PowMooCow
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you should add spread eagles
Aug 21 2012 7:25PM
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yourthemannowdog
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It's a conspiracy


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Go WAY skier's left and if you are lucky you will find it
Aug 21 2012 8:26PM
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broto
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from memory so bear with me but i believe

a/z = mute
s/x = safety
d/c = japan
f/v = blunt

Aug 21 2012 8:40PM
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ohboy
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to add:
zxcv is for spinning left
asdf is for spinning right

but of course you can do leading grabs and such.
Aug 21 2012 8:48PM
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.ZT.
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go right and find some fun jumps, cliffs, stairs and a qp style wall, go left and find some decent stuff that's similar, you can hit this step up at the left near the bottom.

oh and try going on the rainbow and hitting tab to set a marker while on the rail, this if tried enough will send you out to the deep bc at the top of the massive steeps.

have fun! (I should make some videos, hahahaahaha)
Aug 21 2012 8:53PM
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ohboy
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Yeah I know about that rainbow thing, thanks. I havent really explored the right.
But on the left, next to the thing that looks like chad's gap landing, there is a fun line with a big step down over a cat track thing.
Ill make a vid about it.
Aug 21 2012 8:54PM
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.ZT.
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saw that, but I haven't been out there recently, i'll check it out again.
Aug 21 2012 8:59PM
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Chubz.
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Can you put shifties back on to the keyboard? And is it possible to add a tweaked safety on the keyboard as well?
Aug 21 2012 9:04PM
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gnarles.
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just glitched out on top of the mountains on the left. so fun coming down
Aug 21 2012 9:36PM
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Big.Bird
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somebody help me please!!
Aug 21 2012 9:40PM
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Tree60
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one shifty still works, left CTRL, tweaked safety used to be on the keyboard.
Aug 21 2012 10:40PM
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Inline.
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If you go out way to the left and start at the top of the hill and then go down to the right, there is a pimp ass backjcountry quarterpipe. There are lots of features to be found if you go out of the park. Huge gaps, cliffs, trannyfinders, hips, quarterpipes, steeps and more. Try going out of the park. Also, once you land the 3rd jump I believe, Go off to the right. There is a little jump on top of a cliff of epic proportions. Hit the backcountry. I think its more fun than the park. The "tab" key is your best friend out there.
Aug 21 2012 11:07PM
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Wolfgang.
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she just keeps getting better and better, and why on earth is there a cliff where the old cannon box used to be?
Aug 21 2012 11:16PM
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.ZT.
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I knew about a few of these spots, but thanks for the tips, going to try those tomorrow.
Aug 22 2012 12:11AM
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jibjunkie
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dont feel like hunting for the answer for my question but here goes. when i go to shredsauce i get the down rail as first feature. if i restart by pressing r then i get the dfd. why is this?
Aug 22 2012 10:27AM
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bobs
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I enjoy this
Aug 22 2012 11:02AM
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ohboy
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The default spawn point is different than the default restart point.
I have no idea why, but it just happens.
Aug 22 2012 12:18PM
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