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SSteezle
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Thought some Ns'ers might be interested. I'm kind of debating picking it up myself as an upgrade from my t2i. It's going for 799, which isn't too great, but you can also sell the 18-55 for 100 easily on ebay. I figure it's like getting the body for $700. The more I type this out, it doesn't seem like such an amazing deal. Oh well, if anyone was looking to pick one up

http://1saleaday.com/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1SaleADay&utm_content=1Sale+07%2F28%2F12
Jul 28 2012 4:28PM
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SSteezle
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never even looked into the t4i now, it's a touchscreen. fuck dat i'll keep my t2i
Jul 28 2012 4:38PM
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FatWhore
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hahahaaa
Jul 28 2012 4:45PM
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CliffyByro
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there's very little difference between the two, its not worth the upgrade. may as well save up and get like a 60d or 7d
Jul 28 2012 5:40PM
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PacificRimJob
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at 800$, I'd say that's about as much as it costs for a 60D.

7D would be for it's much better phototaking quality, rather than it's video which is kinda outdated now.
Jul 28 2012 5:51PM
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RICK_ROSS
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not interested in the camera. but $10 for this router? http://1saleaday.com/wireless/ hell yeah! ive totally been needing one. so thanks.....
Jul 28 2012 6:05PM
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norgeanders
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has anyone bought from this website before? is it legit?
Jul 29 2012 3:10PM
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SSteezle
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i've never bought from them, but i've heard they're legit-- just take a little while to ship
Jul 29 2012 3:38PM
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eheath
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i like the touch screen on my fs100...
Jul 29 2012 4:04PM
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Merlin.
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Touchscreen.....
Jul 29 2012 4:42PM
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WillStart
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what exactly is the logic here? not trying to be a dick, but i've heard this a lot of times and it doesn't make much sense.


the T4i still has all of its buttons. You aren't forced to use the touch screen in any way, it just adds some functions. I sometimes use the touch screen on my FS100 and frankly it's pretty sweet. It doesn't hinder the camera at all; I don't really get why the touchscreen is such a turn-off. I think it's just a touchscreen hate bandwagon because it seems amateur I guess.
Jul 29 2012 5:25PM
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SSteezle
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i honestly didn't even know there was a "Bandwagon" for those that hate touchscreens, it's more of just a personal preference for me when it comes to cameras. Maybe if I used one, i'd change my mind, but I like the idea of not poking my screen to mess with exposure. This might not be the greatest comparison but I could be browsing the internet on an ipad and touching the screen everytime I wanted to go back, but I'd rather just use my macbook pro and never have to move my hands
Jul 29 2012 6:18PM
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eheath
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you seem to miss the part where all the buttons are the same. i dont set exposure on my touch screen i mostly use to to navigate through clips and sometimes press OK when i format my card
Jul 29 2012 6:21PM
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SSteezle
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what I'm saying is I have no problem using my camera how it is now, so is it worth it for me to upgrade to pretty much the same camera with the benefit of having a touchscreen, no.
Jul 29 2012 6:23PM
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eheath
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Yeah, thats understandable, you dont need a touch screen so why upgrade... it sounded like you were more saying you'd never use it cause it had a touch screen, thats all
Jul 29 2012 6:27PM
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SSteezle
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honestly, I wouldn't. Simply because, in terms of how much money I could spend on a body, even if it had a touchscreen, the video quality would be the same. Say I had enough money to buy a fs100, the touchscreen wouldn't scare me away at all because I'd be too damn stoked on 1080 60fps. Some day I'm sure I'll pick up a camera with a touchscreen and love it
Jul 29 2012 6:30PM
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WillStart
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I've heard hate on the T4i because of the touch screen a million times.

But yeah you are definitely ignoring the fact that the touch screen isn't intended to replace functions such as shutter speed, exposure, etc. It just adds features such as being able to simply touch on a part of the image and have it autofocus to that area. Not that we use autofocus often, but still a potentially useful feature nonetheless.

And obviously the touch screen isn't a reason to upgrade, I would never suggest that. But there is no denying that you made it sound like the touchscreen was a reason to avoid the T4i and any other touch screen cameras altogether, which just isn't true. Even in your example with the FS100, you are still making it sound like the touch screen is something of a negative. It isn't at all.

Basically, a lot of you guys (m&a users) have it in your head that touch screens are automatically bad. You need to get over that. Addition of touch screen =/= removal of buttons.
Jul 29 2012 10:37PM
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1337
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lol nope, 7d has awful noise issues at lower isos
Jul 29 2012 11:02PM
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1337
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And IMO, the t4i is better than the 60d. Why? Digic 5 processor. They are KILLER

5fps
better iso handling (1+ stops)
Same AF (9 pt)
Integrated speedlight transmitter
Jul 29 2012 11:10PM
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SSteezle
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the upgrade just isn't worth it for me, regardless of the touch screen. I said that I'm sure if I had a fs100, i'd learn to love the touchscreen. To me, it shouldn't matter what another filmers camera preferences are. Find what suites you best
Jul 29 2012 11:20PM
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WillStart
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I think you still aren't quite understanding. I'm not saying you should reconsider not upgrading. I wouldn't upgrade from a t2i to a t4i either. I'm saying that if you're in the market for a Txi, the touchscreen isn't a reason to avoid the t4i. Similarly, if for some reason somebody did want to upgrade, the touch screen shouldn't scare them off. At no point was I trying to tell you to upgrade.

I'm also not saying you need to learn to love touch screens. They aren't for everybody. All I'm saying is that it shouldn't be viewed as a deal breaker.

And I don't care what other filmers preferences are, but hearing people hate on something when the majority don't even have firsthand experience with the thing they're hating on is annoying, especially when they don't even know much about it (for example, how many think you will have to adjust settings with the touch screen).
Jul 30 2012 2:30PM
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SSteezle
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dude stoppppppppppppppppppp. I understand that it bothers you that some people are uneducated about touch screens and the awesomeness they have. to save you frustration, i'd recommend just worrying about your setup, and those that choose to "hate on touchscreens" will be missing out! I already said if I'd have no problem buying a camera with a touchscreen if it brought me a better sensor or 1080 60fps. I have you 10/10 for a good reason, but I think you're kind of beating a dead horse right now
Jul 30 2012 2:54PM
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WillStart
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Oh there's no doubt that I've been beating a dead horse here. But that's only because you misinterpreted what I was saying every time. Or at least that's how your posts came across.

And it's not like I sit around worrying that some people might not be buying the best setup possible. I saw a post I did not agree with, so I argued with it. You didn't seem to understand my argument, so I continued arguing. In case you couldn't tell, arguing is about 98% of what goes on here in the NS forums. As far as I can tell that's pretty much what a forum is for. If it weren't for arguing/expressing opinions, these forums would be dead.

If you feel the need to drop my karma go ahead, I really couldn't care less what it's at.
Jul 30 2012 5:43PM
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SSteezle
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I understand what you've been saying every post you made, you just keep thinking that I don't get it - maybe it's possible I don't? You opened my eyes to the benefits a touchscreen might offer, for that I thank you, but I think it's about time this thread dies seeing as though the "deal" ended days ago
Jul 30 2012 5:59PM
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PacificRimJob
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I fully agree with you on the Digic 5 Processor. They are SO fast.

That said... same AF? I might be mistaken, but doesn't the T4i only has 1 crosstype AF point - just like the T3i? the 60D has 9.

The 60D also has some weather/dust sealing and a LCD display on top - which for me is pretty important, if anything because I'm used to it, and it doesn't require the same amount of battery as it takes to show the same information on the rear display - thus greater battery life (which it already gets due to it's battery - which already has seemingly twice the life to begin with)

I also prefer the 60D's viewfinder to the t3i (which as far as I know, is exactly the same as the T4i).



But really, for video, none of that matters, and they're pretty much exactly the same for that outside of the Digic 5 so whatever. lol.



Jul 30 2012 8:33PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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after seeing the footage from the fs100 and from the gh2 which is a dslr and not too pricey I honestly have no idea why anyone would invest in a canon camera (unless filming isn't ur main purpose) but i am just real sad that i have a t2i right now and i want to upgrade to a gh3 when it comes out but i don't have any money ;(

after watching edits like this I just honestly can't appreciate what canon has to offer filming wise. maybe its that canon seems to usually have a shallow depth field and the colors just aren't as detailed and i wanna say "real" looking. especially with the gh3 having a 1080 60p i can't imagine why people would buy canon cameras for filming. they really need to step their game up.

Aug 1 2012 1:00AM
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Jchurcher
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I saw the sale on one sale a day and printed it out and brought it to best buy and priced matched it so i only had to pay 800. Ive had the camera about a month, and still figuring everything out. But i love the camera and i think the touch screen makes it a lot easier to use at times, but mainly just use the buttons.
Aug 16 2012 7:53PM
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zbphoto
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Im 95% sure my 60d had the integrated flash as well. But yeah, digic 4 was a giant flop, from everything I've digic 5 is amazing.
Aug 16 2012 11:36PM
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TaranItUp
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This made me laugh.
Aug 17 2012 12:06AM
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CrotchKiller
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lol
Aug 17 2012 12:18AM
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TijmenDal
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Yes it did.
Never had a Digic 4 cam, but haven't heard anything good about the noise performance. On my buddy's 60D I didn't see anything too bad at ISO 1600 though.
Aug 17 2012 3:12AM
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nickyb
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This is really off topic but don't the buttons on the 60d feel like complete crap? I feel like I'm using a child's toy when I press the record button. It's not really a big issue, but I just wanted to see if you felt the same way.
Aug 17 2012 3:01PM
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zbphoto
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My 60d feels like a dollar store toy compared I my 5d gripped. And yeah, the 60d button's were terrible.
Aug 18 2012 10:00AM
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TijmenDal
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Pretty much the only reason why I wouldn't get a 60D. I've never had one, but my buddy does. Especially the buttons are fucking shit. Hate it. Other than that it's a very capable camera. Such a shame of the housing though. They should have stayed with the magnesium alloy and old layout. Also: I hate the click-button-sroll wheel thing in the middle. Such an annoying POS.
Aug 18 2012 4:06PM
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nickyb
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Yea it definitely doesn't feel as solid as the 7d body wise, and like I said, the buttons are shit. However, the scroll wheel in the middle is pretty handy imo.
Aug 18 2012 4:15PM
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