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Questioning facebooks ipo valuation

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accualyisdolan
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facebook is ipoing at 100 billion, which is so many times earnings you gotta ask-

when facebook says theyll find away to make money off users, why shouldnt users expect to get paid to use facebook?

if facebook ends up meeting earnings expectations, theyll be tapping the shit out of the user, and theyres nothing to stop any other of the thousands of smart programmers to start up a new facebook, and facebook will get crushed just like facebook crushed myspace.

info connectivity is so fucking cheap these days, and its getting cheaper by the day, so theyres really no barrier to entry. i mean zuckerberg launched fb out of his dorm
May 16 2012 3:56PM
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accualyisdolan
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by however many i meant whatever amount of hrs it takes per  paying the user a buck while still turning a profit. if u think im that stupid go ahead and think u called me out. i care. really
May 17 2012 12:08AM
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.AR6rider.
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Tried to read this thread, got about 20 posts in. I have come to the conclusion that OP is a fucking ruhtard.
May 17 2012 12:08AM
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2_fadez
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its autism awarenesss month.

this type of thing happens with OP. It is his chance to vent
May 17 2012 12:18AM
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turducken
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This, like most of you posts, make no sense at all.

Can you please post in English next time?
May 17 2012 12:18AM
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accualyisdolan
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she hasnt said that yet.....
May 17 2012 12:23AM
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californiagrown
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i went to our local dive bar where unfortunatly(fortunatly?) we are regulars and drank with the facebook crew tonihgt. tomorrow night is gonna be crackin.

Im gonna poke a hole in a condom and try and get some facebook chicks preganant. Good idea?
May 17 2012 12:29AM
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californiagrown
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bahahahaha you fucking idiot.


ive been telling people for years that you are too stupid to make it till tomorrow.
May 17 2012 12:33AM
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Bill.Nye
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That took you 20 posts? You're losing it man.
May 17 2012 12:40AM
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accualyisdolan
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alot depends on whether china lets facebook in, but long term i agree, think about a decade ago...did anybody think microsoft would ever find itself in trouble?


May 17 2012 1:02AM
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accualyisdolan
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nvrmind the decade thing. a decade ago half of ns were sucking their moms boobs
May 17 2012 1:06AM
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volvotom
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But Microsoft is not in trouble. They're financially healthy. Brought in $23bil last FY
May 17 2012 1:07AM
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Bill.Nye
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I was sucking your mom's boobs last night
May 17 2012 1:07AM
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midwestpowhunter
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the difference between facebook and myspace is simply the lack of intrusive advertisments. By limiting the number of popups and users soliciting, it keeps the service as its intended. a way to network with people. there arent pitfalls and scams running rampent. The beauty of their model is that when you tell a company you like them, you are filling out a survey but thats not what it feels like to the consumer. It is a way for the consumer to show their support and share the things they enjoy with friends and family. the consumer isnt being solicited to fill out a survey to get CASH!!. there is no feeling of cheapness. its a backdoors model that accounts for every single piece of data you could ever want as a business trying to target a market segment. it is data that you couldnt get from a solicited survey. it is the most powerful unbiased engine ever developed for marketing. its worth every penny. as long as facebook doesnt cheapen itself by turning into myspace2.0 they will remain the mainstream networking site the majority of the world will subscribe to. I personally deactivated my fb a year ago for various reasons but i definetly appreciate how powerful fb is
May 17 2012 1:10AM
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turducken
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And how old are you? 15?
May 17 2012 1:13AM
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N-John360
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While the OP is absolutely insane, I would say that I would not want FB on my portfolio as a long-term play. I'm not saying that I think FB will burn out in ten years - I realize by that time FB could be trading around Apple / Google levels. However, there certainly is the possibility that it will be nothing by then, and its risk I don't want on my portfolio. In addition, I'm having trouble trusting their revenue stream. Very hard to put an accurate number on as they aren't really selling a product, and the opportunity of manipulating the numbers is far higher than companies like Apple. I can easily see FB tanking earnings because of this one quarter and the stock dropping 10%. In addition, I think FB will be significantly overvalued (at least for the first 6 months or so) because first-time investors who don't know a thing will buy into the stock solely based on name recognition.

That being said, I think there is an opportunity to day trade this stock after the IPO. I could almost guarantee the stock will appreciate on Friday. WIll be interesting to see if it does like other tech IPOs and gains on day 1 but drops after that (look what happened to Yelp). Have a feeling FB will gain for longer than just their first day - again, going back to the first-time investors/name recognition argument.


May 17 2012 1:14AM
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Peter.
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whoever has this stock when it opens can sell it that day for profit, it is almost guaranteed to pop because it is so hyped
May 17 2012 1:27AM
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.AR6rider.
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I'm guessing a decade ago, you were probably 4 or 5 years old. This argument makes no sense.
May 17 2012 1:31AM
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Bill.Nye
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HYPE HYPE HYPE
May 17 2012 1:33AM
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.AR6rider.
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Throw that shit on a Hanes t-shirt and I bet you could make 100 bucks.
May 17 2012 1:34AM
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p-fo
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This is actually really interesting. Fuck the haters! But OP, you are kind of being a dick. If you frame what you have to say more intelligently, use proper grammar, and spell out full words, you will get taken more seriously.
May 17 2012 1:36AM
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accualyisdolan
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theyre were in a bit of trouble before einhorn bought in and called out microsoft for being under charlie brown mgmt a year ago... but microsoft used to be viewed as a monopoly....
compare it to now.
May 17 2012 2:11AM
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.AR6rider.
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EINHORN IS FINKLE. FINKLE IS EINHORN.
May 17 2012 2:12AM
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Bill.Nye
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May 17 2012 2:14AM
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volvotom
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They still have ~90% market share, yes their venture into the phone market has been horrible and bing, although a decent product just can't take a bite out of google, but in their core business which is software, they're still doing very well.
May 17 2012 3:14AM
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accualyisdolan
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Oh boy how right was I. Fb still in the gutter
Nov 14 2012 7:23PM
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Jeebus.
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OP please,
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Nov 14 2012 7:32PM
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bigbromskier
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The funny thing is that what Universities sell is a value-based piece of paper: the diploma. It all has to do with the university's credibility (see: accrediation). For that reason, universities won't get fucked because a free wikipedia university won't have nearly the prestige and value of a true university

Note that the vast majority US student loan debt that goes into default is owed to public, for profit universities, such as University of Phoenix, rather than true accredited universities that aren't out to make a profit. Hence, the value of a tried and true university education has far more intrinsic and monetary value than something like a 'free wikipedia university'.

Of course, that can all change, but your overall reasoning seems pretty farfetched.
Nov 14 2012 7:44PM
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cool_name
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so how much did you make?
Nov 14 2012 9:30PM
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ILLinoisance
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lololololololol
Nov 14 2012 9:36PM
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