not that it matters, but i saw some kid nose pressin' on a pair of karmas in new zealand last week, and doin some 270's on and off, seemed pretty good then. plus, the top sheets are mad durable which is nice since scratch's and pe's and shit get huge chips taken out of them easily. don't know about the bases tho, but i definitely want a pair of 177's for everything. or a pair of 180msp's
'everyday above ground is a good one'