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What binding with Armada HALO?

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JibberFin
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I'm wondering to buy the 2011/12 armada halo and now i wonder which binding i should pick, i weight about 82 well trained kilograms ;D i'm like 177cm tall and i ride the park the most of the time, i want a bindnign that will hold up on a little bigger jumps but also on some small jumps and rails. so which one to choose: Marker Jester 16 2011/12 vs. Atomic FFG 16 Team?

I'd love to get some answers!
//Kevin
Mar 26 2012 4:51PM
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max61195
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marker binding if you want to be hitting lots of park on a safe binding or for all round skiing, the salomon sth binding which I think is the safest/ most stable binding for any type of skiing including park!
Mar 26 2012 5:08PM
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max61195
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sorry forgot to say... salomon sth 16 if the same binding as the atomic ffg team binding. however, the sth is more plain in colors!
Mar 26 2012 5:09PM
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rudager
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FFG 16 team.
Mar 26 2012 5:11PM
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pghjibber
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if you want to get markers make sure you wait until the 2012/13 markers arrive in shops... they had to redesign the heel pattern due to numerous pullout issues

most of the armada team use tyrolia peaks... for your weight you are probably good to go with a peak 15
Mar 26 2012 5:11PM
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Forcillo
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I like the FFG on my Punx, but I advise against Markers. A bunch of my friends have them, and they break all the time (they are 90% plastic) but the FFG is great.

And btw, Welcome to NS
Mar 26 2012 5:25PM
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VD.
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I have so many problems with Jesters, the main one being that the heel piece slides back on the rail meaning I just prerelease ALL THE TIME

Mar 26 2012 5:31PM
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JibberFin
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Thank you guys very much! one more question, how am i supposed to mount the bindings? -2,5cm or deadcenter?

//Kevin
Mar 27 2012 1:41PM
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rudager
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That's up to you. If it's for purely park, or a majority of it, I recommend true centre
Mar 27 2012 3:12PM
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JibberFin
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http://www.sport-conrad.com/page/product-detail/__/shop/prod/19497/2/1/5/446/6/4/8/124
http://www.sport-conrad.com/page/product-detail/__/shop/prod/20673/2/1/5/446/6/4/8/2
So these combined mounted at dead centre, good or not so good?

Thank you for fast replys!

//Kevin
Mar 30 2012 3:28PM
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rudager
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Yes! But maybe true centre. Just my opinion
Mar 30 2012 3:42PM
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JibberFin
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aren't deadcenter and true center the same?
Mar 30 2012 3:46PM
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rudager
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No. Dead centre is exact middle of the ski. True is the centre of sidecut
Mar 30 2012 3:48PM
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JibberFin
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so where exactly is the true center on the halos?
Mar 30 2012 3:50PM
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rudager
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Not sure, it'll either say on the ski, or just measure it out
Mar 30 2012 4:03PM
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JibberFin
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okay thanks! the only thing i dont like about the bindings are that they are too colorful :D
Mar 30 2012 4:07PM
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Randy_Quench
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if you go with marker, at least go with a higher priced marker binding. the lower priced/quality ones are absolute shit.
Mar 30 2012 4:24PM
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JibberFin
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yup i know that, i've got some experience from my marker squire from last year..they were shit and still are.
Mar 30 2012 4:28PM
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rudager
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Meh, it's just colour, you have one of the best bindings now
Mar 30 2012 4:29PM
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JibberFin
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true dat ;D
Mar 30 2012 4:34PM
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bobs
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The true center/ dead center of Halo's is really different from traditional skis

The measurements on the ski are from the total length of the ski (tip to tail)

- 5 cm is the middle of the turn radius from what I understand. Best carving performance if you're only looking for an all mt ski

-2.5 cm is the factory recommended point. This is the center of the core and center of the running length of the ski. The running length of the ski is the length of ski that touches the ground. There is more early rise in the noses than in the tails of the ski. So mounting Halo's at -2.5cm is very similar to mounting a traditional camber ski at dead center. You will have the same amount of nose touching the snow as you do tail. The core will flex most naturally at this point and you don't lose a significant amount of carving "performance."

0 cm (or dead center) is the middle of the skis total length, but 2.5 cm in front of the running length of the ski. You will have more effective tail than nose. It will feel like mounting a traditional ski 2.5cm in front of its center. Due to the early rise the noses willsometimes feel "tipy" over the front. Since they're 5cm in front of the turn radius, they can sometimes feel "hooky" too. The reward though is lower swing weight and a more balanced ski. The skis will spin faster, rails will feel more natural and the ski will feel "shorter" in a good way.

I have mine at -1.5cm. In the end it all comes down to personal preference and what your looking for
Mar 30 2012 5:53PM
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