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Session
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NS whining about the ESPN article was pathetic.

Man the fuck up.
Feb 17 2012 10:22AM
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blindside
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Did you left justify your post? Are you supposed to be writing in verse?

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Feb 18 2012 10:45AM
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Mr.Bishop
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What I feel most proud of is somehow I manage to suck you in here all the time. Proof that my mind control works in many ways.

Note as well, I was also very much defending TGR, which I'm pretty sure you're a fan of.


Feb 18 2012 11:07AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Giving a shit about Karma is way less stupid than hiding behind an alias. You're going to start a site? Awesome, we'll promote it. Stand up with your real name and we'll listen.


Feb 18 2012 11:08AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Right, but their passion is software. Nerds are successful in what they choose to be, because they use their brains.

So a skiing nerd, passionate about putting thought into the sport can learn to ski very well.

Its a slightly abstract comparison, but I would have thought you were smart enough to get it.


Feb 18 2012 11:10AM
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Mr.Bishop
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You know,

what is manly is stating your opinion. What isn't is what most people do - deliver a totally sterilized and rosy picture of everything in skiing.

Real men stand for what they believe in, and will not be silenced.


Feb 18 2012 11:11AM
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.frenchy
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I don't get it... If Session doesn't like NS much, why would he donate 50 dollars?

I donated 50 to NS because I love everything about it, the people, the forums, EVERYTHING. Not to look cool.
Feb 18 2012 11:16AM
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Mr.Bishop
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I think he was just calling me out for whining.

I mean, I can see why people would think it lame to complain about an arbitrary list in a blog post...

I just really dislike the lack of respect that is given from a significant part of the industry to ALL online communities. I think it has to stop, they need to know we're here. Not just us either, TGR is a massive community - same with EpicSki.


Feb 18 2012 11:25AM
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cobra_commander
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I wish I could edit your post...

because I think you mean:

The lack of respect that is given from a significant part of the real world to ANY online communities.

The exception would be Facebook/Twitter, and those carry a bit more weight due to the interactions being between people who knew each other from a place other than the internet first. Also the net worth of either of those companies forces respect. If you honestly thin about it though, how many people really give two shits if you have eleventy million facebook friends.

The good measure of a friend is the one who gets pumped up to get in a bar fight and take a punch to the face with you. I have never gotten in a bar fight with anyone over the internet.
Feb 18 2012 11:37AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Well...

Facebook / Twitter / YouTube have gained a ton of attention lately. There is a massive 'social media' push everywhere. Its just totally unavoidable, with traffic numbers from facebook starting to beat google on some sites, its a behemoth you can't ignore.

Where my REAL sore spot is when I sit at conferences (all snowsports-focused is what I'm currently talking about), talk to potential advertisers, or am involved with media sources... all they can talk about is 'getting social'. The issue is that the only social focus they have is facebook / twitter / pinterest / YouTube / Google+, etc. You'll sit through a "social media in skiing to reach the youth" seminar, and not once do they even mention any of the strong communities that are in our sport.

Skiers are a tight knit bunch, and our sport has an exceptional couple of tight-knit online communities. When you see someone not even give a hat nod to that, yet they have facebook like / google + / tweet buttons all over their site, its a touch silly. Niche communities are the future of social networking if you ask me. Someone who were to simply make a social push ignoring facebook, and focusing on NS/TGR/EpicSki could do very well. It wouldn't have as big numbers, but each of the numbers would be far more focused and useful.

So I'll re-phrase what I said to be the lack of respect of the niche and focused online communities in Skiing is what really gets my goat.


Feb 18 2012 11:53AM
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cobra_commander
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I have a response to that, but don't have time to post it. I will latter...

essentially, facebook, youtube, twitter, all have pyramid shaped viral features for sharing relevant content. Newschoolers.com does not. What my friends look at on ns does not effect the media presented to me, and visversa, it does on the facebooks.
Feb 18 2012 12:02PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Look forward to it!

The key difference is that when you have a proper niche community, you don't need friend relationships. Everyone on here is into the same stuff, which is topical to the entire site.

So it allows the same type of stuff, except we can collect the data from everyone. That is what all the top rated stuff is about.

As well, when you have the NS system curate things for the entire community, and then the people in this community share out the best stuff in their networks, you can create a much larger social seeding matrix than possible for one entity.

That is the key difference with a Niche network - it curates everything by default, and then shares out to the rest of the world through the members that are a part of it.

BTW - Great conversation. You're making fantastic points.


Feb 18 2012 12:13PM
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Girays_Brother
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NEEERRRDDDDSSSSS!!!!
Feb 18 2012 2:54PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Ogre ended up joining the nerds in the end of the movie and defeating the Alpha Betas, skyrocketing the Tri-Lambs to the top of the Greek Games.


Feb 18 2012 3:25PM
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PON3
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I really find this whole argument between websites is pointless. Even though brobomb isnt that popular of a site it is still a freeskiing site, which should be saying awesome things about other freeskiing sites. Even though they didn't rate us the best, im still stoked that they rated us best humor.

IMO: Honestly I never go on TGR just because its so boring with a lot of dry personalities on there. Every thing that NS has much better personality than a lot of websites out there. And that why I like NS

People can complain with who said what about each website but it wont help any thing . All that matters is that you think NS is awesome, then it will be awesome. If you just fight and complain about who said what and what did they do, then it just takes away the awesome personality of not just NS, but also any other freeskiing website out there.
Feb 18 2012 5:35PM
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Blurst
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ESPN rated NS just best humor. Not brobomb
Feb 18 2012 7:11PM
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PON3
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SORRY! ment ESPN.

but still thinking that brobomb making a deal out of it is pretty crappy, but the more of a deal NS makes out of it just feeds more to the fire. Just be stoked on being stoked and being a skier!!!


BE HAPPY :)
Feb 18 2012 9:12PM
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Ribss.
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I tried really hard to make a legit response to this but im way too high. Threads for later so I can actually express my feelings correctly. Regardless, I agree with bishop.



BTW, I just want to say that I think AR6Rider is a total douche.
Feb 19 2012 3:13AM
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dbchili
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honestly, you guys are making this into a way bigger deal than it is. Bishop, why do you need external validation from some shitty writer at ESPN to have NS mentioned as an awesome online ski community? I think that is evidenced by the fact that every kid in the park nowadays knows what this site is, and that it has literally launched the careers of many pros. If I wanted to check hockey stats I'd go to ESPN, but I don't I want ski content and that's why I go to NS

Also brobomb is hilarious, and anyone that actually has beef with them over that article needs to get a sense of humour
Feb 19 2012 8:55AM
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OhioDreams
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As I read through this, I just continued to like what Mr. Bishop had to say more and more. Keep fighting the good fight Doug, you have yet to disappoint and we're always pullin for ya!
Feb 19 2012 11:29AM
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SickStickz
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Go Mr. Bishop!


I don't ever go on BroBomb so I have no reason to hate on them, but the fact that NS didn't rank well is horse shit. I enjoy reading many of the articles on NS and it keeps me up to date on all the big contests.

With that being said, @BroBomb, way to keep it classy at the ski communities expense.
Feb 19 2012 11:39AM
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clive_bixby
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make an adjustable touring pole please.
Feb 19 2012 12:02PM
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smuggs
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brobomb sucks and only exists because of newschoolers.

thats how i feel, but i didnt really ready anything
Feb 19 2012 12:38PM
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BK
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at least colbyjameswest.com didn't come in place of NS with 'Also check out... Newschoolers' That would have really fired shit up.
Feb 19 2012 4:30PM
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las.
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oh the irony..
Feb 19 2012 5:18PM
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[~_~]
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Journalism? As far as I can tell, Bro Bomb is opinion/humor sprinkled with industry news tidbits. Or am I missing something?

I see your point about niche networks not getting due respect, but to me it seemed Bro Bomb was just doing its usual thing: poking bruises and giggling along the way.
Feb 19 2012 6:38PM
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fucking
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oh look just when i thought the site was filled with nothing but fucking idiots who love tosh.o, here's someone who knows whats up!
Feb 19 2012 8:13PM
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special_k10101
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The journalism that he's referring to is ESPN's I think.
Feb 19 2012 9:26PM
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