Is america on its way to becoming a totalitarian police state?

take your own advice there bub. you just know what you have been told about those religons, and what you have seen is the american versions. America has a tempered version of the islamic and jewish religons, compared with our version of Christianity.

Again, you are basing everything you know off what media has told you, and those that you know in your immediate area. hardly a position to truly know whats going on...

haha, well at least you admit it.

wow, i havent seen this video on here before

More so a dystopia....

I cant tell if you're trolling or just a fucking idiot. All the terrorist attacks you hear about are Islamic? Does the name Anders Breivik ring a fucking bell? I often wonder if retards like you have ever even known a single Muslim in your life.

this.



californiagrown doesn't know what hes talking about...

you are talking a single atack in the past decade compared to hundreds of ones perpetrated by muslims.

just look at the facts, and look at the countries where islam is big. wherever islam is prevalent, there is tons of violence, and that is not a coincidence.

Hugely over-regulated. But not a police state.

Not gonna happen. Too many Jedi in the gene pool.

who cares. the US is fucked. good luck, yanks. all this time trying to fix the rest of the world and you can barely control yourselves. have fun in your next civil war.

you do realize that if that happens, the north will just usurp canada to make up for losing territory in the south. and because your country is so tiny population-wise, you will have very little say in what goes down after you become part of the union.

i am killing it in this thread.

fuck that if the civil war extends beyond your boundaries the allies would cease to be your allies and would come to our defense. guaranteed. nobody wants to see canada get fucked, and everyone already hates americans, so it'd be a perfect opportunity to jump ship and the world coalition would take the states DOWN. allllll because you guys couldn't handle your own shit and tried to invade canada.

I was half expecting this to be about this....

well it would never happen to begin with, and the whole thing is impossible to determine because who knows what the status of any military would be after such a war. Plus you've gotta remember that all the American allies would almost certainly help to maintain the government as it is now. Would be interesting to see what NATO's position on it would be.

but if it did:


The only ones who would do anything would probably be Britain, France, and Russia. France would probably only be interested in anything pertaining to quebec, which would likely lead to quebec separating from Canada altogether.

The British could either maintain Canada as an ally or lose the US. And something tells me they've probably got more at stake in losing the US. So that's pretty much the end of that. If the Brits took any action other than going to war in Canada's aid, then canada would be screwed. And even in fighting, they have a tiny military compared to the US.

Russia...well they'd probably just take alaska, and the US most likely would let them take it in the whole fray.


The US military and much of it's equipment was designed to destroy the Soviet Union. I think they could handle Canada just fine. Just look at the Canadian Air Force...you gotta figure that anything made in the US, should it become damaged or destroyed is irreplaceable. That, by the way, includes Canada's only fighter jet, the Cf-18...otherwise known as the Boeing F/A-18.

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! That's a video of a bunch of isolated police incidents.... that's nowhere near linked. Some of the beginning shots aren't very ridiculous but ones at the end are down right disturbing. Either way this shit happens sometimes and people are just ignorant, only now thinking they can film this shit with phones like that's gonna do anything. Departments are WAYYYYY more focused on this kinda shit now and avoiding it, so it really is making better cops. You just gotta remember that not all cops are the same and even good cops have shitty moments under stress that you can't imagine.

You still didn't answer my question; Have you ever known a single Muslim in your life?

yes i have known, and am friends and acquaintances with many muslims, as well as Jews and christians.

the muslims that were born here dont know the difference, but the ones who came here from africa or the mid east, say the religon is 10x mellower over here.


you need to get learned.

You know the states are not perfect, but you can ski alot and they are hell alot better than most countries. If you hate it leave it so we can get some people who don't bitch all the time.

And as far as police go, especially in the city where alot of this "police brutality" is happening, you only let your self get stabbed by thugs a half dozen times before you get trigger happy or fist happy. 

This is some seriously stupid shit... why don't you look shit up before you speak? You are not killing it in this thread and you never will be killing it due to your ignorance towards anybody with a different opinion then yours. The reason there is violence in the middle east is due to the culture that has been there and continues to exist there now. It is a group of warring tribes and is still a culture of tribal war far. Islam had changed very little about that. Please just shut the fuck up.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/
https://chronicle.com/article/article-content/128443/
http://www.mediamonitors.net/muhammadali1.html
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/238/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/us/radical-muslim-americans-pose-little-threat-study-says.html
http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
http://www.dailytitan.com/2010/09/only-6-percent-of-terrorists-are-muslim/

please just shut the fuck up.... the statistics do not stand with you... the scared shitless Christian community, that fears they may not be the most powerful thing in the world in a century do stand with you.

I think i just won.

explain?

this.

i guess ill just continue.



you are quoting ridiculously liberal media sources. Christianity went through its violent phase during the middle ages. Islam is currently going through it now.

You have zero experience with religons outside of the US so i can understand your naivete. Just take a look at countries where islam is popular, and tell me they are not a violent country. you have zero facts backing you up.

Your straight kidding right? O.k first where is your religious experience coming from? The actions of today do not make up for actions in the past... Islam is 600 years younger then Christianity. 600 years ago the Christian crusaders were invading south america and they decreased the population from about 36 million to 10 million.

Just because you ask, here is the FBI report on terrorism chronologically from 1980 to 2005.
Date Location Incident Type
Perpetrator Killed Injured
1/7/1980 San Juan, PR Pipe Bombing Anti-Communist Alliance
1/13/1980 New York, NY Bombing Omega 7 4
1/13/1980 Miami, FL Bombing Omega 7
1/19/1980 San Juan, PR Bombing Omega 7
3/12/1980 Hato Rey, PR Armed Assault Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
3/15/1980 Chicago, IL Hostile Takeovers (2) Armed Forces of National Liberation
3/17/1980 New York, NY Bombing Croatian Freedom Fighters 3
3/25/1980 New York, NY Attempted Bombing Omega 7
4/19/1980 Chattanooga, TN Shooting Justice Knights of the Ku Klux Klan 4
4/30/1980 New York, NY Assault Revolutionary Communist Party
6/3/1980 Washington, DC Bombing Croatian Freedom Fighters
6/3/1980 New York, NY Bombing Croatian Freedom Fighters
7/14/1980 Dorato, PR Multiple Bombings (2) Organization of Volunteers for the
San Juan, PR Puerto Rico Revolution
7/14/1980 Ponce, PR Multiple Arsons (2) Organization of Volunteers for the
Mayaguez, PR Puerto Rico Revolution
7/22/1980 Hato Rey, PR Multiple Bombings (4) Revolutionary Commandos of the People,
Santurce, PR Ready and at War
Rio Piedras, PR
8/20/1980 Berkeley, CA Pipe Bombing Iranian Free Army 2
9/11/1980 New York, NY Shooting Omega 7 1
10/7/1980 New York, NY Attempted Bombing International Committee Against Nazism
10/12/1980 New York, NY Bombing Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide 4
10/12/1980 Hollywood, CA Bombing Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide 1
10/14/1980 Fort Collins, CO Shooting Libyan Revolutionary Committee 1
12/21/1980 New York, NY Pipe Bombing Armed Forces of Popular Resistance
12/30/1980 Hialeah, FL Attempted Bombing Omega 7
1/8/1981 Santurce, PR Multiple IncendiaryBombings (3) People’s Revolutionary Commandos
Ponce, PR
Rio Piedras, PR
1/12/1981 San Juan, PR Bombing Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
1/23/1981 New York City, NY Bombing Croatian Freedom Fighters
1/26/1981 San Francisco, CA Bombing Jewish Defense League/American Revenge
Committee
2/2/1981 Los Angeles, CA Attempted Bombing 3-Oct
2/9/1981 Eugene, OR Assault Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade
2/22/1981 Hollywood, CA Bombing Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation
of Armenia
3/15/1981 San Juan, PR Attempted Bombing Armed Forces of Popular Resistance
4/21/1981 Santurce, PR Robbery Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
4/27/1981 Washington, DC Incendiary Bombing Iranian Patriotic Army
5/16-18/81 New York City, NY Multiple Bombings (5) Puerto Rican Armed Resistance 1
6/25/1981 Torrance, CA Incendiary Bombing Jewish Defenders
6/26/1981 Los Angeles, CA Bombing June 9 Organization
7/30/1981 New York City, NY Hostile Takeover Libyan Students
8/7/1981 Washington, DC Hostile Takeover People’s Mujahedin Organization of Iran 3
8/20/1981 Washington, DC Arson Black Brigade
8/20/1981 Los Angeles, CA Bombing June 9 Organization
8/27/1981 Carolina, PR Bombing Grupo Estrella
8/31/1981 New York City, NY Hostile Takeover Jewish Defense League
9/3-4/81 New York City, NY Multiple Bombings (2) Jewish Defense League
9/9/1981 Washington, DC Assault Concerned Sierra Leone Nationals
9/11/1981 Miami, FL Multiple Bombings (2) Omega 7
9/12/1981 New York City, NY Bombing Omega 7
9/22/1981 Schenectady, NY Bombing Communist Workers Party
9/24/1981 Miami, FL Attempted Bombing Omega 7
10/1/1981 Hollywood, CA Bombing Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia
10/25/1981 New York City, NY Incendiary Bombing Jewish Defense League
11/11/1981 Santurce, PR Bombing Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
11/14/1981 Glen Cove, NY Shooting Unaffiliated Extremists
11/20/1981 Los Angeles, CA Bombing Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide
11/27/1981 Fort Buchanan, PR Shooting National Liberation Movement 1
11/27/1981 Santurce, PR Multiple Bombings (2) Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
Condado, PR
12/24/1981 New York City, NY Attempted Pipe Jewish Defense League
Bombing
1/28/1982 Los Angeles, CA Shooting Justice Commandos of the Armenian 1
Genocide
2/19/1982 Miami, FL Multiple Bombings (2) Omega 7
2/19/1982 Washington, DC Bombing Jewish Defense League
2/21/1982 Rio Piedras, PR Pipe Bombing Antonia Martinez Student Commandos
2/28/1982 New York City, NY Multiple Bombings (4) Armed Forces of National Liberation
3/22/1982 Cambridge, MA Bombing Justice Commandos of the Armenian
Genocide
4/5/1982 Brooklyn, NY Arson Jewish Defense League 1 7
4/28/1982 New York City, NY Multiple Bombings (2) Jewish Defense League
4/29/1982 San Juan, PR Multiple Bombings (2) Provisional Coordinating Committee of the
Bayamon, PR Labor Self-Defense Group
4/29/1982 San Juan, PR Shooting Provisional Coordinating Committee of the
Labor Self-Defense Group
5/4/1982 Somerville, MA Shooting Justice Commandos of the Armenian 1
Genocide
5/16/1982 San Juan, PR Shooting Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros/ 1 3
Group for the Liberation of Vieques
5/17/1982 Union City, NJ Incendiary Bombing Omega 7
5/19/1982 Villa Sin Miedo, PR Shooting Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros 1 12
5/20/1982 San Juan, PR Attempted Bombing Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
5/25/1982 San German, PR Kidnapping Grupo Estrella 1
5/30/1982 Van Nuys, CA Attempted Bombing Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of
Armenia
6/10/1982 Carolina, PR Multiple Bombings (3) Armed Forces of Popular Resistance
7/4/1982 New York City, NY Multiple Pipe Croatian Freedom Fighters
Astoria, NY Bombings (2)
7/5/1982 New York City, NY Multiple Pipe Jewish Defense League
Bombings (2)
8/20/1982 Old San Juan, PR Bombing Armed Forces of National Liberation
9/1/1982 Naranjito, PR Attempted Bombing Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
9/2/1982 Miami, FL Bombing Omega 7
9/8/1982 Chicago, IL Bombing Omega 7
9/20/1982 New York City, NY Bombing Armed Forces of National Liberation
9/25/1982 Miami, FL Attempted Bombing Omega 7
10/15/1982 Washington, DC Hostile Takeover Islamic Extremists
10/22/1982 Philadelphia, PA Attempted Bombing Justice Commandos of the Armenian
Genocide
11/4/1982 New York City, NY Smoke Bombing Jewish Defense League
11/16/1982 Carolina, PR Multiple Robberies (2) Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros 1
12/8/1982 Washington, DC Attempted Bombing Norman David Mayer 1
12/16/1982 Elmont, NY Multiple Bombings (2) United Freedom Front
12/21/1982 New York City, NY Attempted Pipe Bombing Jewish Defense League
12/22/1982 McLean, VA Hostile Takeover People of Omar
12/31/1982 New York City, NY Multiple Bombings (5) Armed Forces of National Liberation 3
1/11-12/83 Miami, FL Multiple Bombings (3) Omega 7
1/28/1983 New York City, NY Bombing Revolutionary Fighting Group
2/13/1983 Medina, ND Shooting Sheriff’s Posse Comitatus 2 4
2/15/1983 Killeen, TX Hijacking Hossein Olya
2/19/1983 Washington, DC Pipe Bombing Jewish Defense League
3/20/1983 San Antonio, TX Bombing Republic of Revolutionary
4/26/1983 Washington, DC Bombing Armed Resistance Unit
4/27/1983 Miami, FL Attempted Bombings (4) Haitian Extremists
4/29/1983 Rio Piedras, PR Hostile Takeover Ejercito Popluar Boricua Macheteros
5/12/1983 Uniondale, NY Bombing United Freedom Front
5/13/1983 New York City, NY Bombing United Freedom Front
5/27/1983 Miami, FL Bombing Omega 7
7/8/1983 Miami, FL Kidnapping Ejercito Revolucionario Del Pueblo
7/15/1983 Rio Piedras, PR Robbery Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros 1
8/8/1983 Detroit, MI Attempted Incendiary Bombing Fuqra
8/8/1983 Detroit, MI Shooting Fuqra 1
8/9/1983 Detroit, MI Arson Fuqra 2
8/16/1983 Los Angeles, CA Hostile Takeover Carlos Martinez
8/18/1983 Washington, DC Bombing Armed Resistance Unit
8/21/1983 New York City, NY Bombing United Freedom Front
8/27/1983 Washington, DC Incendiary Bombing Unknown
10/12/1983 Miami, FL Pipe Bombing Omega 7
10/30/1983 Hato Rey, PR Rocket Attack Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
11/7/1983 Washington, DC Bombing Armed Resistance Unit
12/13-14/83 East Meadow, NY Multiple Bombings (2) United Freedom Front
New York City, NY
1/29/1984 New York City, NY Bombing United Freedom Front
2/23/1984 New York City, NY Bombing Jewish Direct Action
3/19/1984 Harrison, NY Bombing United Freedom Front
4/5/1984 New York City, NY Bombing Red Guerrilla Resistance
4/20/1984 Washington, DC Bombing Red Guerrilla Resistance
5/9/1984 New York City, NY Attempted Assassination Bashir Baesho
8/22/1984 Melville, NY Bombing United Freedom Front
9/26/1984 New York City, NY Bombing Red Guerrilla Resistance
9/26/1984 Mount Pleasant, NY Bombing United Freedom Front
12/10/1984 Levittown, PR Multiple Bombings (5) Organization of Volunteers for the
Rio Piedras, PR Puerto Rican Revolution
Ponce, PR
Mayaguez, PR
Cayey, PR
1/25/1985 Old San Juan, PR Rocket Attack Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros/Organization of Volunteers for the Puerto Rican Revolution
2/23/1985 New York City, NY Bombing Red Guerrilla Resistance
5/15/1985 Northridge, CA Pipe Bombing Jewish Defense League
8/15/1985 Paterson, NJ Bombing Jewish Defense League 1 1
9/6/1985 Brentwood, NY Bombing Jewish Defense League 1
10/11/1985 Santa Ana, CA Bombing Jewish Defense League 1 7
11/6/1985 Bayamon, PR Shooting Organization of Volunteers for the Puerto Rican Revolution 1
1/6/1986 Cidra, PR Multiple Bombings (4) Ejercito Revolucionario Clandestino/ National Revolutionary Front of Puerto Rico
Toa Baja, PR
Guanica, PR
Santurce, PR
3/17/1986 Ponce, PR Attempted Bombing Commando Rojo
4/14/1986 Rio Piedras, PR Bombing Organization of Volunteers for the Puerto Rican Revolution
4/29/1986 San Juan, PR Shooting Organization of Volunteers for the Puerto Rican Revolution 1 1
5/14/1986 Phoenix, AZ Sabotage Earth First Organization
9/2/1986 New York City, NY Tear Gas Bombing Jewish Defense League 17
9/15/1986 Coeur d’Alene, ID Pipe Bombing Aryan Nations
9/29/1986 Coeur d’Alene, ID Multiple Bombings (4) Aryan Nations
10/20/1986 New York City, NY Incendiary Bombing Jewish Defense League
10/28/1986 Bayamon, PR Multiple Bombings (7) Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros 1
Fajardo, PR
Mayaguez, PR
Aguadilla, PR
Santurce, PR
Fort Buchanan, PR
11/4/1986 Puerta De Tierra, PR Attempted Bombing Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
12/28/1986 Yauco, PR Multiple Bombings (2) Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
Guayama, PR
4/16/1987 Davis, CA Arson Animal Liberation Front
5/25/1987 Caguas, PR Multiple Bombings (7) Guerrilla Forces of Liberation
Carolina, PR
Mayaguez, PR
Cidra, PR
Aibonita, PR
Ponce, PR
11/9/1987 Flagstaff, AZ Sabotage Evan Mecham Eco-Terrorist
International Conspiracy
1/12/1988 Rio Piedras, PR Multiple Incendiary Pedro Albizu Campos Revolutionary Forces
Bombings (2)
5/26/1988 Coral Gables, FL Bombing Organization Alliance of Cuban
Intransigence
7/22/1988 Caguas, PR Pipe Bombing Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
9/19/1988 Los Angeles, CA Bombing Up the IRS, Inc.
9/25/1988 Grand Canyon, AZ Sabotage Evan Mecham Eco-Terrorist International
Conspiracy
10/25/1988 Flagstaff, AZ Sabotage Evan Mecham Eco-Terrorist International
Conspiracy
11/1/1988 Rio Piedras, PR Multiple Bombings (2) Pedro Albizu Campos Revolutionary Forces
4/3/1989 Tucson, AZ Arson Animal Liberation Front
6/19/1989 Bayamon, PR Multiple Bombings (2) Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
7/3-4/89 Lubbock, TX Malicious Destruction of Property
Animal Liberation Front
1/12/1990 Santurce, PR Multiple Pipe Bombings (2) Eugenio Maria de Hostos International Brigade of the Pedro Albizu Campos Revolutionary Forces
Carolina, PR
2/22/1990 Los Angeles, CA Bombing Up the IRS, Inc.
4/22/1990 Santa Cruz County, CA Malicious Destruction of Property Earth Night Action Group
5/27/1990 Mayaguez, PR Arson Unknown Puerto Rican Group
9/17/1990 Arecibo, PR Multiple Bombings (2) Pedro Albizu Group Revolutionary Forces
Vega Baja, PR
2/3/1991 Mayaguez, PR Arson Popular Liberation Army
2/18/1991 Sabana Grande, PR Arson Popular Liberation Army
3/17/1991 Carolina, PR Arson Unknown Puerto Rican Group
4/1/1991 Fresno, CA Bombing Popular Liberation Army
7/6/1991 Punta Borinquen, PR Bombing Popular Liberation Army
4/5/1992 New York, NY Hostile Takeover Mujahedin-E-Khalq
11/19/1992 Urbana, IL Attempted Firebombing Mexican Revolutionary Movement
12/10/1992 Chicago, IL Car Fire and Attempted Boricua Revolutionary Front
Firebombing (2)
2/26/1993 New York, NY Car Bombing International Islamist Extremists 6 1042
7/20-22/93 Tacoma, WA Multiple Bombings (2) American Front Skinheads
11/27-28/93 Chicago, IL Firebombings (9) Animal Liberation Front
3/1/1994 New York, NY Shooting Rashid Najib Baz 1 3
4/19/1995 Oklahoma City, OK Truck Bombing Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols 168 754
(Michael Fortier found guilty of failing to alert authorities of plot)
4/1/1996 Spokane, WA Pipe Bombing/Bank Robbery
Spokane Bank Robbers
7/12/1996 Spokane, WA Pipe Bombing/Bank Robbery
Spokane Bank Robbers
7/27/1996 Atlanta, GA Pipe Bombing Eric Robert Rudolph 2 112
1/2/1997 Washington, DC Letter Bombing Unknown
Leavenworth, KS (Counted as 1 incident)
1/16/1997 Atlanta, GA Bombing of Abortion Clinic
Eric Robert Rudolph 8
2/21/1997 Atlanta, GA Bombing of Alternative Lifestyle Nightclub
Eric Robert Rudolph 5
1/29/1998 Birmingham, AL Bombing of Reproductive Services Clinic
Eric Robert Rudolph 1 1
3/31/1998 Arecibo, PR Bombing of Superaqueduct Construction Project
Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
6/9/1998 Rio Piedras, PR Bombing of Bank Branch Office
Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
6/25/1998 Santa Isabel, PR Bombing of Bank Branch Office
Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros suspected
1
6/27/1998 Espanola, NM Arson Raymond Anthony Sandoval
10/19/1998 Vail, CO Arson Fire at Ski Resort
Earth Liberation Front
3/19/1999 Santa Fe, NM Attempted Bombing Raymond Anthony Sandoval
3/27/1999 Franklin Township, NJ
Bombing of Circus Vehicles
Animal Liberation Front
4/5/1999 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
Malicious Destruction and Theft
Animal Liberation Front
5/9/1999 Eugene, OR Bombing Animal Liberation Front
7/2-4/99 Chicago, IL Multiple Shootings Benjamin Nathaniel Smith 2 8
Skokie, IL
Northbrook, IL
Bloomington, IN
8/10/1999 Granada Hills, CA Multiple Shootings Buford O’Neal Furrow 1 5
8/28-29/99 Orange, CA Malicious Destruction and Theft
Animal Liberation Front
10/24/1999 Bellingham, WA Malicious Destruction and Theft
Animal Liberation Front
11/20/1999 Puyallup, WA Malicious Destruction Animal Liberation Front
12/25/1999 Monmouth, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
12/31/1999 East Lansing, MI Arson Earth Liberation Front
1/3/2000 Petaluma, CA Incendiary Attack Animal Liberation Front
1/15/2000 Petaluma, CA Incendiary Attack Animal Liberation Front
1/22/2000 Bloomington, IN Arson Earth Liberation Front
5/7/2000 Olympia, WA Arson Revenge of the Trees
7/2/2000 North Vernon, IN Arson Animal Liberation Front
7/20/2000 Rhinelander, WI Vandalism Earth Liberation Front
12/1/2000 Phoenix, AZ Multiple Arsons Mark Warren Sands
12/9-30/00 Suffolk County, Long Island, NY
Multiple Arsons Earth Liberation Front
1/2/2001 Glendale, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
2/20/2001 Visalia, CA Arson Earth Liberation Front
3/9/2001 Culpeper, VA Tree Spiking Earth Liberation Front
3/30/2001 Eugene, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
4/15/2001 Portland, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
5/17/2001 Harrisburg, PA Bank Robbery Clayton Lee Waagner
5/21/2001 Seattle, WA Arson Earth Liberation Front
5/21/2001 Clatskanie, OR Arson Earth Liberation Front
7/24/2001 Stateline, NV Destruction of Property Earth Liberation Front
9/9/2001 Morgantown, WV Bank Robbery Clayton Lee Waagner
9/11/2001 New York, NY Aircraft Attack Al-Qa’ida 2972 est. 12000
Washington, DC
New Cumberland, PA
9/01-11/01 New York, NY Bacillus anthracis Unknown 5 17
Washington, DC Mailings
Lantana, FL
10/14/2001 Litchfield, CA Arson Earth Liberation Front
11/12/2001 San Diego, CA Burglary and Vandalism Animal Liberation Front
3/18/2002 Erie, PA Vandalism Earth Liberation Front
3/24/2002 Erie, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front
5/11-12/02 Harborcreek, PA Vandalism/Destruction of Property
Earth Liberation Front/ Animal Liberation Front
7/4/2002 Los Angeles, CA Shooting Hesham Mohamed Ali Hedayat 2
8/02-10/02 Henrico and Goochland Counties, VA
Vandalism and Destruction of Property
Earth Liberation Front
8/11/2002 Warren, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front
9/15-16/02 Harborcreek, PA Vandalism/Destruction of Property
Earth Liberation Front/ Animal Liberation Front
11/26/2002 Harborcreek, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front/ Animal Liberation Front
1/1/2003 Girard, PA Arson Earth Liberation Front
3/3/2003 Chico, CA Vandalism Animal Liberation Front
8/03-9/03 San Diego, CA Arson Earth Liberation Front
8/22/2003 West Covina, CA Vandalism and Destruction of Property
Earth Liberation Front
8/28/2003 Emeryville, CA Bombing Daniel Andreas San Diego Suspected
9/26/2003 Pleasanton, CA Bombing Daniel Andreas San Diego Suspected
1/19/2004 Henrico County, VA
Arson Earth Liberation Front Suspected
4/1/2004 Oklahoma City, OK Arson Sean Michael Gillespie/Aryan Nations
4/20/2004 Redmond, WA Vandalism and Arson Earth Liberation Front
5/04-7/04 Provo, UT Vandalism and Arson Animal Liberation Front
12/27/2004 Lincoln, CA Attempted Arson Earth Liberation Front
1/05-2/05 Auburn, CA Attempted Arson and Arson
Earth Liberation Front
Sutter Creek, CA
4/13/2005 Sammanish, WA Arson Earth Liberation Front
7/7/2005 Los Angeles, CA Attempted Arson Animal rights extremists Suspected
9/16/2005 Los Angeles, CA Attempted Arson Animal Liberation Front
11/20/2005 Hagerstown, MD Arson Earth Liberation Front

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005
sorry forgot to add that

my baseball coach in high school was the head of the West coast of the FBI. Richard Held...look him up. heard some stories for sure.

hes was the one who headed the conspiracy against the black panthers, the guatemalan commando shit, and the environmentalist movement. most of those charges are trumped up.

you are just giving me a list that contains less than 20 people killed. all of it is just property damage...not killing innocents the way islam does.

get some stats relating to the rest of the world, you narrow minded, fool. the US isnt the whole world.


Btw, im still winning.

You seriously think your winning, whatever winning in this context would apply you most certainly are not. Your not even ignorant your just ignant. That list contains 3,180 deaths you dumb ass. Seriously how old are you, what's your occupation, and where are you going, or attended, as far as college and high school goes? Have you ever been in a debate? You also never answered where your experience in religion comes from, I take it that is because you do not have any?

wow, you must be dumb, trolling, ignorant, or very new to the internet. the internet can find out facts, that dont only apply to the USA. go learn some. simple question. since 1980 how many more people have been killed in th name of islam than the next highest cause? Islam is violent by nature. Fact. you have yet to present any evidence that doesnt apply to the US. please do!


i was succesfully winning, and i continue that great tradition.

Ok dude seriously, your not winning, there is no way to win this, i will not change my opinion I will only modify it if you can successfully present information from a valid source. You have not stated any facts, and you have only commented that the "stats are with you" yet you haven't shown any.I did find a chart made by the FBI that placed Islam as the number one religion causing death in the world right now. I then accepted this, but questioned who is the victim. Just search baring that concluded that the deaths were mainly from Muslim to fellow Muslim. In particular the two groups with varying beliefs, regarding Muhammad. These are the Sunni, and the Shi'a. These acts of violence are much like the Protestant, Catholic wars. Allas, I take it you will not change your opinion either so this "debate" is fucking pointless. I only hope that someone reading this comes to the conclusion that there are different sides to arguments and different views to take, and therefor any statement or fact must be questioned.

you do realize that you are the only one in this thread that did not realize a long time ago that i am successful...

You just dodged a lot of questions, and you have not presented any stats... you were not "successful" i just went to bed.

oh, i do believe i was VERY succesful...

Do it here......

I live in Seattle and have had only a few interactions with police (thankfully) and they have always been totally reasonable. I have heard of a lot more times when the police has been reasonable to my friends. Stuff like this happens, but i bet its a lot more justified than it looks. And if it wasn't justified then i bet the police officer was actually punished unlike what the video said.

everyone loves to hate on the five 0

The reason he says he's 'winning' is because he's a troll and trolls consider themselves 'winning' when they can successfully derail an Internet thread for a few responses. It's a Charlie Sheen thing.

^ Ya picked up on that... No America is not on the way to becoming to a police state, but that being said enforcement officers should always be challenged. Not challenged in a disrespectful, and violent way, but questioned to better the society as a whole. That's just my opinion.

UW campus police suck chode though.

UW as a whole sucks chode.

^^ Internet arguments in a nutshell. As soon as someone runs out of arguments they just say "umad?" or "trolled hard" as an excuse for their complete ignorance

we no longer live in a democracy. Laws do not protect us from our government, The people have let it happen. They say it can help, but they use it to hurt :the USA's government policy

we no longer live in a democracy. Laws do not protect us from our government, The people have let it happen. They say it can help, but they use it to hurt :the USA's government policy

we no longer live in a democracy. Laws do not protect us from our government, The people have let it happen. They say it can help, but they use it to hurt :the USA's government policy

Still saying this before the totaltarian rule kicks in. You guys still have rights and everything, just some of the actions and events that have happened make it look like you have no righta

my bad



We no longer live in a DEMOCRACY. LAWS do NOT protect us from OUR Government, THE PEOPLE have let it happen.

They say it can help, but they use it to hurt : The USA's government policy

Is everything you write this dumb?

Are you blind?



Have you read the NDAA? I have. A lot of vague definitions.