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nagelthebagelIt doesn't matter if the boots are for freestyle or not, all that matters is that they really fit you properly and that you go to a boot fitter, so he can get you the right boot. Otherwise if you have the wrong size (usually to big), then you are going to be in a lot of pain weather or not it is a freestyle orientated boot.
JUST SEE A BOOTFITTER, please.
East_CoasterOk that's not necessarily true. Any kind of racing boot is going to be stiff for carving so it does make a difference if it's a freestyle boot or not to an extent. You can find great free ride boots to use in park. The problem with this is, these boots aren't built to protect your shins from shin bang and going deep on jumps (etc.). Freestyle boots are much better in this case. They design these boots so you don't damage your buckles and are more rigid on the outsoles. When I started freestyle, I used a pair of Lange boots and they were pretty good. When my parents saw I really liked it, they bought me a pair of Salomon Spk 80s. These are a great pair of boots For entry level skiers. For one they are affordable and pretty comfortable, and you can swap your buckles out and heel and toe piece of ever necessary. You could also drop $500 for a good pair of Full Tilts and even a pair of Dalbello Voodos if you wanted but spks are the perfect entry level boot. I don't think they make the spks anymore however, Salomon makes a pair of Ghost Fs 80s which are almost exactly like what the spks were.
East_CoasterOk that's not necessarily true. Any kind of racing boot is going to be stiff for carving so it does make a difference if it's a freestyle boot or not to an extent. You can find great free ride boots to use in park. The problem with this is, these boots aren't built to protect your shins from shin bang and going deep on jumps (etc.). Freestyle boots are much better in this case. They design these boots so you don't damage your buckles and are more rigid on the outsoles. When I started freestyle, I used a pair of Lange boots and they were pretty good. When my parents saw I really liked it, they bought me a pair of Salomon Spk 80s. These are a great pair of boots For entry level skiers. For one they are affordable and pretty comfortable, and you can swap your buckles out and heel and toe piece of ever necessary. You could also drop $500 for a good pair of Full Tilts and even a pair of Dalbello Voodos if you wanted but spks are the perfect entry level boot. I don't think they make the spks anymore however, Salomon makes a pair of Ghost Fs 80s which are almost exactly like what the spks were.
East_CoasterOk that's not necessarily true. Any kind of racing boot is going to be stiff for carving so it does make a difference if it's a freestyle boot or not to an extent. You can find great free ride boots to use in park. The problem with this is, these boots aren't built to protect your shins from shin bang and going deep on jumps (etc.). Freestyle boots are much better in this case. They design these boots so you don't damage your buckles and are more rigid on the outsoles. When I started freestyle, I used a pair of Lange boots and they were pretty good. When my parents saw I really liked it, they bought me a pair of Salomon Spk 80s. These are a great pair of boots For entry level skiers. For one they are affordable and pretty comfortable, and you can swap your buckles out and heel and toe piece of ever necessary. You could also drop $500 for a good pair of Full Tilts and even a pair of Dalbello Voodos if you wanted but spks are the perfect entry level boot. I don't think they make the spks anymore however, Salomon makes a pair of Ghost Fs 80s which are almost exactly like what the spks were.
KravtZYou made no sense man. The fact that you ski on an 80 flex boot just tells everyone here what a joke you are. No serious skier skis on something that soft.
And a lot of pros use racing boots with more shock in the heel. More or less same design but with a bit more padding and what not. Racing boots are the best boots on the market. Often the top freeride boots are virtually the same with a slight flex change or shock absorption added or something like that. Try charging hard on an 80 flex boot on any serious terrain and you would have no control.
KravtZYou made no sense man. The fact that you ski on an 80 flex boot just tells everyone here what a joke you are. No serious skier skis on something that soft.
And a lot of pros use racing boots with more shock in the heel. More or less same design but with a bit more padding and what not. Racing boots are the best boots on the market. Often the top freeride boots are virtually the same with a slight flex change or shock absorption added or something like that. Try charging hard on an 80 flex boot on any serious terrain and you would have no control.
East_CoasterOk I was 12 years old dude and it doesn't matter the flex was 80. You're really going to tell me something like this when I've been skiing my whole life and started freestyle with a pair of Lange touring boots and s pair of k2 Indy skis. You are an idiot, you don't need a flex of 120 you dumbass. A greater flex puts more stress on your knees since they are always stressed and a greater flex just means you grip the snow better. This is worst of you're riding pow as well because you're forcing all your weight to the front. But no one rides a 90 or 80 flex right? That's why I know a lot of kids that ride an 80 and 90 flex. Almost all spks were either an 80 or 90 flex so you know absolutely nothing. When they were extremely popular, everyone rode them. So please tell respond and tell me how stupid you actually are.
East_CoasterSo wallisch rides a pair of racing boots? Haha you are a joke dude are you stupid.
East_CoasterOk I was 12 years old dude and it doesn't matter the flex was 80. You're really going to tell me something like this when I've been skiing my whole life and started freestyle with a pair of Lange touring boots and s pair of k2 Indy skis. You are an idiot, you don't need a flex of 120 you dumbass. A greater flex puts more stress on your knees since they are always stressed and a greater flex just means you grip the snow better. This is worst of you're riding pow as well because you're forcing all your weight to the front. But no one rides a 90 or 80 flex right? That's why I know a lot of kids that ride an 80 and 90 flex. Almost all spks were either an 80 or 90 flex so you know absolutely nothing. When they were extremely popular, everyone rode them. So please tell respond and tell me how stupid you actually are.
East_CoasterSo wallisch rides a pair of racing boots? Haha you are a joke dude are you stupid.
East_CoasterOk I was 12 years old dude and it doesn't matter the flex was 80. You're really going to tell me something like this when I've been skiing my whole life and started freestyle with a pair of Lange touring boots and s pair of k2 Indy skis. You are an idiot, you don't need a flex of 120 you dumbass. A greater flex puts more stress on your knees since they are always stressed and a greater flex just means you grip the snow better. This is worst of you're riding pow as well because you're forcing all your weight to the front. But no one rides a 90 or 80 flex right? That's why I know a lot of kids that ride an 80 and 90 flex. Almost all spks were either an 80 or 90 flex so you know absolutely nothing. When they were extremely popular, everyone rode them. So please tell respond and tell me how stupid you actually are.
East_CoasterThe problem with spks is the shin bang.
East_CoasterBut these are pros guys. You're talking about a $500 pro model boot. I'm talking about a good starter boot. The problem with spks is the shin bang. Yes the flex is too little but when you are starting up, it's a ok boot.
East_CoasterBut these are pros guys. You're talking about a $500 pro model boot. I'm talking about a good starter boot. The problem with spks is the shin bang. Yes the flex is too little but when you are starting up, it's a ok boot.
KravtZlol whatever man...im sure you're one of those "park rats" who isn't even that good to start with who spends all day in the park and scoffs at racers too because "they're dicks". I bet your one of those idiots who focuses so much on throwing a crappy 5 and can barely carve a proper turn or ski with any remote form of good technique or form
Caucasian_AsianShin bang is a product of two things.
1.) Poor technique.
2.) A boot that is not fit properly. Whether it be length, width, volume, or flex, if a boot is not fit properly, it can cause shin bang.
Please stop posting about topics you do not understand.
East_CoasterAre you kidding me? No I'm not actually because I spend my winters Nordic skiing with my ski team. I have terrible form but have been skiing since I was 3. You know nothing about me and you guys are ridiculous if you think there isn't a "starting boot". Not everyone can pull $500 out of there ass. I work at a ski area and still can't get a good pair of boots. It's expensive once you don't have mommy and daddy paying for you. Sorry, but truth hurts. Yes full tilts are great, but expensive as hell. Not every parent wants to drop $500 for a pair of boots when they don't know if their kids will continue skiing for a long time.
onenerdykidThere is really no such thing as a "starting up" boot because boots don't know your skiing ability. All they know is the force(s) that is acting upon them. Take for example 2 freestyle skiers who are both starting the sport, new to skiing. One weighs 100 pounds, the other weighs 200 pounds. There is no way the same "starting up" boot will work for both of them. The 200 pound skier will need a boot with a flex of 120 or 130 simply because he will crush a softer boot and he will struggle to control the ski properly because the boot can't support him.
You pick your ski based on how aggressive of a skier you are and where on the mountain you want to go skiing. You pick your boot based on your subjective biomechanic needs and enjoy your day.
Concerning shin bang, it's already been covered above- it's the result of bad technique and/or a poorly fitting ski boot. It is not a problem that is related to a style of boot or using a race boot in the park or a park boot in powder.
Profahoben_212dude you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about lol.
it is quite funny actually.
East_CoasterBut I do, tell me exactly where I'm wrong then. Please elaborate.
Profahoben_212well ill just start with one. Most of the time with freeride boots, (the ones you said are much better in the park than race boots) they just throw a warmer liner and a rubber replaceable boot board on them. So saying race boots are bad for park and freeride boots are okay is completely wrong. Saying race boots cause shin bang from landing on the aggressive stance is also very wrong. The actual problem here is not going to be shin bang. More of just a fitting issue due to your boots being too stiff and unable to be flexed. Shin bang is caused from poor fitting boots and bad technique. You should be landing with shins in the tongue.
East_CoasterShins are in the tongue but race boots are more stiff dude. You can't be serious? There is a difference between race boots and freeride boots. Have you tried a pair of race boots then freeride? For one, there's weight and then there's stiffness. So boots are based of other boots. That doesn't mean they're an exact replica of that boot.
East_CoasterShins are in the tongue but race boots are more stiff dude. You can't be serious? There is a difference between race boots and freeride boots. Have you tried a pair of race boots then freeride? For one, there's weight and then there's stiffness. So boots are based of other boots. That doesn't mean they're an exact replica of that boot.
Profahoben_212So, you are saying the Nordica Doberman 130 has a different flex than my GPX 130? yeah no. The gpx has a different liner and rubber boot boards. Pretty much the only difference. Miiight havea slightly wider ankle area.
Saying that all race boots flex like a 2x4? Now you cant be serious dude. They make all sorts of flexes of race boots. Even 80 flex like your precious SPK!!!!
Im sorry that you cant flex a 130 boot man, but you should try to do some research. You need it.
Caucasian_AsianYou haven't looked at very many race boots then. You can buy a 80 flex race boot. And it's the same boot as the 150 flex, with the exception of flex.
Where did you learn all of this incorrect knowledge?
