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Chairlift argument: Who did the first double?

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Riding Catskinner chair yesterday and watching some bc freestyle team kids doing doubles in the black park my buddy and I we`re talking to who did the first freestyle double.

I say Mike Wilson. Teddy Bear Crisis he does a crazy double on a jump over a half pipe.
Feb 5 2012 12:37PM
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Baskilla
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I say it was Gus... He did dub off a rail.
Feb 5 2012 12:40PM
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jhackbeez
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double cork is mike wilson, straight up dub front/back im not sure.
Feb 5 2012 12:41PM
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casual
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schaub bros?
Feb 5 2012 12:42PM
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Willard
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Mike Wilson in my opinion
Feb 5 2012 12:55PM
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Katch
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Mike Wilson did the first hucked double flippy trick, but I'm pretty sure Jacob Wester did the first double cork as we know them today.
Feb 5 2012 1:03PM
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Katch
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In fact, other people have been throwing double flippy tricks in the 70s-80s, but Mike Wilson is the first from the newschool era,
Feb 5 2012 1:05PM
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Mr.Gaga
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Isn't andreas and jon? Andreas worked on first dub cork and jon on dub flats. After Mike Wilson obviously.
Feb 5 2012 1:09PM
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Forcillo
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I saw a vid from like 30 years ago of people doing dub misty 1440s. Didn't catch names though
Feb 5 2012 1:17PM
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forrest-cole
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Jon pretty much got the game going for dubs.
Feb 5 2012 1:25PM
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Static
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hrmmm the first double chairlift....who could have done it maybe Sun Valley?.... or is this not a chairlift argument? I only read thread titles.
Feb 5 2012 1:45PM
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Kjell
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I though it was Jacob and Jon that started the doubles, Jacob with the corks and Jon with the flats.  I watched and interview and Jacob was talking about his "signature" trick being a double cork 12, sounded to me like he was the only one with it at the time.  I may be wrong though; I'll look for the interview.
Feb 5 2012 1:53PM
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Kjell
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http://www.freeride.se/jacobwester/2010/11/23/thoughts-on-style-and-its-royal-family/

It's not a interview but it's from Jacob's blog, seems to me as though he's saying Mike Wilson started it then Jon and Jacob made it big.
Feb 5 2012 1:59PM
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GayWolf420
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Yeah Wilson's dub in TBC is definitely one of the first.
Feb 5 2012 2:08PM
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Mr.Gaga
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You're probably right, they say same thing on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Wester
Feb 5 2012 2:33PM
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pikupfulofsnow
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shrabs (sp)
Feb 5 2012 2:40PM
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dmc12380
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Wilson did dubs well before tbc
Feb 5 2012 3:08PM
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LIL_WAT
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Pretty sure that's (one of) the first dub 12s ever at 1:45 by jacob wester. This was a full year before the "dj flip" .
Feb 5 2012 3:49PM
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Mike-O
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Haha, I didn't remember Olenick was actually in JOI/JOSS.



To my knowledge, these seem correct.

Schrab Bros. threw the first double mistys (like Casual said).

Wilson threw the first dub flips in comp and quarterpipe (Venus fly trap?) and also threw one of the first double corks in Teddybear Crisis over the halfpipe.

Wester was probably the first to do double cork 12 mute and land it on camera at least.
Feb 5 2012 3:54PM
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chicken
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doubles have been done since the 70's. first "newschool" doubles were done by toben sutherland (venus flytrap), Rick Wroblewski(risky flip) and the Shcrab brothers (double mistys). The first double cork was probably Mike wilson with his wilson flip which is essentially a double cork 10. Jon olsson brought doubles to the mainstream with his double flatspin 9 or "kangaroo flip". The next year, Jon and quite a few other pros began to do double corks and now we are in the era of the triple.
Feb 5 2012 3:58PM
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123ski
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2002ish - Rick Wroblewski - Risky Flip
2004: Mike Wilson - Wilson Flip

Feb 5 2012 4:00PM
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LC.
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^ You're thinking of Tobin Sutherland. But that's irrelevant, Rick Wroblewski was doing d-spin-to-backflip on kickers before that.

And now I feel old, thanks.
Feb 5 2012 4:00PM
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remster
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Definitely Mike Wilson
Feb 5 2012 4:04PM
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Slowbro
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Some early switch dubs and dub corks
Feb 5 2012 4:13PM
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Bill.Nye
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Frank Bare did a quad tripple in 1983, he kinda missed his grab though.

Feb 5 2012 4:21PM
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Ribss.
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The Bolero Project from Howie Arnstad on Vimeo.

Feb 5 2012 5:40PM
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NotGhood
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i have to go with Jon
Feb 5 2012 5:44PM
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Blurst
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Ya thats my favourite double twelve ever to this day so clean.

Dub 12 blunt

Feb 5 2012 5:45PM
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dilla_says_go
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tobin sutherland did a flare-front flip in a quarterpipe in 13 which i think was shot in 99. people have been doing straight doubles since probably the 60s tho.
Feb 5 2012 5:46PM
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Panda_with_Guns
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just regular dub flip was waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the hot dog days. maybe even before with aerialists
Feb 5 2012 5:50PM
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LittleFoot
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Peter Olenick threw the first dub in the pipe and David Wise did the first dub cork in the pipe
Feb 5 2012 5:52PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Schrab brothers are in between em I think, earlies video I saw was the double misty 1440 via one of the Schrabs. Rick's on skiingmotion or something was early too...
Feb 5 2012 6:11PM
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Panda_with_Guns
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ah..... the good ol whisky flip
Feb 5 2012 7:34PM
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FerrisBueller
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chuck nippon is cool
Feb 5 2012 7:38PM
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FUUUCK
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Risky Flip


rick wroblewski

Wilson Flip? Looks a lot like the risky flip.

Double Misty 14 from way back when...

Clarks LEGIT double cork 12



Feb 5 2012 8:36PM
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FUUUCK
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can't embed it, so here's a link to Jacobs double "corks" from 2006.

http://www.freeride.se/content/938/
Feb 5 2012 8:40PM
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KneeDrop
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Olenick's was so recent in comparison to Flytrap's done so long ago...
Feb 6 2012 11:13AM
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Oldmann1584
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all this talk about doubles made me think about triples, i remember when i first saw this video





nearly shit my pants, especially since it was from 4 years ago...
Feb 6 2012 11:33AM
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hodlekve
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^^to the guy above.
wilson flip (dub cork 10) and risky flip is basically the same, except risky flip is super inverted.
Feb 6 2012 11:52AM
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polmei
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im pretty sure Travis Rice was the first with dubs in snowboard and then skiers started to copy that....

but yeah in sking mike, jon and jacob where pioneers in "todays" dub corks
Feb 6 2012 12:00PM
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schism
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Toben Sutherland did the venus fly trap flip in the early 2000s
Feb 6 2012 12:39PM
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Drail
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nope.

JP Walker is credited as the first snowboarder to throw the double

Feb 6 2012 12:58PM
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[~_~]
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The first double was done decades before most of you were born...
Feb 6 2012 1:47PM
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LOLO_FAVRE
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and what about mike michalchuk! i'm not sure if he is the first one before jp walker but he did one in the pipe like in 1999 or even before
Feb 6 2012 1:53PM
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skodeo7
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Check out those rockers! Damn those guys were ahead of the times.
Feb 6 2012 1:55PM
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Drail
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totally forgot about him. the double michalchuk. even made it in some ski videos back in the day. 13 and Clay Pigeons if I remember correctly.


Feb 6 2012 2:05PM
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Trawltopilot
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yeah mike wilson i think did the first dub cork 10 in tbc. thats the first i ever saw
Feb 6 2012 2:06PM
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acc
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Wilson was attempting dubs on a qp back at the EC Freeskiing Open back in 04. I forget if he landed it or not
Feb 6 2012 2:23PM
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heitsy
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I remember that. He said he had gotten the idea for the trick by playing Amped II. I'm pretty sure he was taking them to the deck, but it was 8 years ago that this happened... Just watching that event was awesome.
Feb 6 2012 3:00PM
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