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Help me find a 3rd ski

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Woodhouse
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I have Bents for pow, and Switchblades for park, but on days at big mountains when there's maybe 15% fresh snow, I am torn, because with the Bents being so soft, cutting crud is fatiguing, and I would rather ski the mountain then the park. I am 6'1", 185lbs, DIN 10-11, and 90% forwards, 10% switch.

I want something stiffer, but rockered tip and tail, and 100-110 underfoot. Something I can mount at -2 or -3 and still pin it through the crustiest of snow, and smear a turn in pow.

I was thinking Bacons, but they might be a bit soft for what I'm looking for.

Thanks
Feb 4 2012 10:06PM
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rudager
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Might be a bit wider, but 4FRNT EHPs

Or

Faction 3.Zero


I highly recommend the 3.zero
Feb 4 2012 10:08PM
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SenorVaca
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I've heard nothing but good things about the Atomic Blog, so that may be an option to check out. However, it may be wider than you would like.
Feb 4 2012 10:14PM
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Woodhouse
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I demo'd them and liked them, but yeah. If I was selling the Bents, that would be an option, but I want something a little more hard snow centric. I was feeling the Blizzard Cochise, even though it's a flat tail
Feb 4 2012 11:17PM
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FerrisBueller
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CHRONIC OR BLEND?
Feb 4 2012 11:23PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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This.  My 3.Zeros fit nicely as a third ski between 4frnt Turbos and Elan Boomerangs.
Feb 4 2012 11:37PM
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manny.ester
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sounds like ON3P jeffreys. Got them this year for exactly what you described and they handle just how I want them to. Definitely a lot stiffer than the bacons but with the rocker they don't come across as too stiff. Bamboo core makes them super responsive and they can definitely hold their own in crud.

I mounted mine at -2, so what you want exactly describes what the jeffrey is
Feb 4 2012 11:48PM
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Woodhouse
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My bents are pretty beat up, and I love them to death. Until the core turns to mush or they snap, I will never sell/get rid of them. Caylors will be 100% their replacements when that day comes though
Feb 5 2012 1:43AM
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Woodhouse
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Viciks would be another option. I don't spin out of the park past 3, so flat tails really are an option, although, a Jeffery are another super solid option
Feb 5 2012 1:45AM
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Kreech
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Go for a dps wailer 112 rp. Or if you like to charge a little more, wrenegades look awesome. If you do a lot more tree skiing, I'd go with the the Billy goats though. Slap an fks equipped mfd plate on there and your only excuse to use the bents will be hitting bc booters. And 191 bgs look oh so sick...
Feb 5 2012 2:16AM
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remster
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Fucking love 3.Zeros. Such a fun playful ski. Awesome everywhere on the mountain. I will be picking a pair up in the very near future
Feb 5 2012 2:28AM
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arammell
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The 191 BGs ARE OH SO SICK! 
Feb 5 2012 3:56AM
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Woodhouse
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On any day with more than 6", my Bents are #1 priority. I love smearing around on them. I was thinking Wrens, but how do they hold on shit snow?

FKS, Pivots, or PX14s are my binding choices for sure though.
Feb 5 2012 1:53PM
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Woodhouse
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And if I have the Bents, why would I not go down to a Vicik, assuming that it's better in variable snow?
Feb 5 2012 2:03PM
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Caveman.
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I have a pair of Viciks that I use for the days when there is no new snow and I just want to bomb around the mountain. They are a fairly aggressive, fun directional ski. However, now that I own a pair of Jeffrey's my Viciks have become neglected.
Feb 5 2012 2:13PM
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Woodhouse
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That's kinda how I was feeling. This thread has now become a Jeffery vs. Wrenegade vs. Vicik thread
Feb 5 2012 2:16PM
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Kreech
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Well wrenegades are world renowned as the ultimate high speed variable snow exploder....
Feb 5 2012 2:20PM
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travman39
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ep pros or hell bents;) or caylors
Feb 5 2012 2:27PM
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Kreech
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He already has hellbents. Now he wants a [directional] stiff crud buster as a middle ski.
Feb 5 2012 2:34PM
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steezypink21
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Salomon el Dictator, Rossi RC 112 (both have a very slight twin to them), Salomon czar, Super 7, AK JJ, Bodacious. All have metal in the, some bust crud better than others. all fucking rail.
Feb 5 2012 4:15PM
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AGOF
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rossi scimitar are super sick
Feb 5 2012 4:39PM
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Dirty.Harry.
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I have 4frnt VCTs...so I'd recommend their replacement, the Turbo.
Feb 5 2012 4:55PM
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Woodhouse
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el Dictators are elOverkill, RCs may be okay, Czars are too wide/soft, and I already have dedicated pow skis.
Feb 5 2012 6:28PM
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Woodhouse
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Now I am torn between 3.

Vicik: A nice mid sized ski, thats nice and stiff, fits well between my other pairs. Con: The mounting is too far back

Wrenegade: Popular for a reason, stiff, still floaty, and I like the idea of a directional ripper. Damn near ideal. Cons: I may miss jibbing everything that isn't flat when I can, and it almost makes me ski my Bents a lot less.

Jeffery: Jibby, but still semi-stiff. Cons: Maybe not stiff enough, and it may become more of a jib ski, and I will still crave a nice slicer ski.

Input/Experiences?
Feb 5 2012 9:37PM
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travman39
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he had bentchetlers
Feb 5 2012 10:27PM
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Woodhouse
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he's saying bentchetlers are similar to hellbents, i think
Feb 5 2012 11:14PM
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jdubbs.
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I would check out the Majesty Ace's. They have a flat tail but are designed for exactly what you are looking for. My code, JW2012, will get you 25% off of them or anything else from majesty.
Feb 5 2012 11:33PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Vicik - directional, friendly in hardpack to powder. Traditional mount, its not very good near centered.

Wrenegade - A burlier Vicik, just runs over everything that gets in its way. Charge ski, big turns, but stable and confident.

^You arent going to be jibbing on either of these skis, they rather send it big than spin.

Jeffrey - The Jeffrey is plenty stiff underfoot where you need it, it only goes a bit noodly in the rocker so its a little more forgiving in variable snow.


Sorry to toss a fourth option in, but if you asked me, a Billy Goat may be something to consider alongside the Jeffrey...
Feb 5 2012 11:40PM
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Woodhouse
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I'm opting out of the Billys. How close to center can I get with the Wrens? -4? -5?
Feb 5 2012 11:45PM
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BlakeG
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maybe armada jj or tst
Feb 5 2012 11:55PM
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Woodhouse
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We have already established the JJ as a no-no, and TSTs are too soft IMO.
Feb 5 2012 11:56PM
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RudyGarmisch
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This years 191's have a recommended mount of -13cm from true measured center. I'd not go that far forward.
Feb 6 2012 12:40AM
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RudyGarmisch
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This years 191's have a recommended mount of -13cm from true measured center. I'd not go that far forward. But thats just me.
Feb 6 2012 12:40AM
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Session
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I'm 220. The Jeffery is plenty stiff for slaying, and stable as fuck at speed. After I got my Jeffery I picked up another Vicik thinking I needed it. I was wrong. Jeffery has invalidated my entire quiver.
Feb 6 2012 12:49AM
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Thomas.GisAHOMO
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one pair is enough, homo
Feb 6 2012 12:59AM
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skiRay
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blend, kung fujas, jeronimo, pb&j, recoil maybe?
Feb 6 2012 10:14AM
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jdubbs.
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or superior. http://www.majestyskisusa.com/superior/
Feb 6 2012 1:24PM
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cobra_commander
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There are flying baby elephants with more intelegance than this post.
Feb 6 2012 1:39PM
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travman39
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get off you fucking peice of fucking shit
Feb 7 2012 12:55AM
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