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ARMADAR7
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Dont think i spelled that right but back to the thread, i watched a video today where an arialist in the 80s did 4 flips and 4 "spins". So i was thinking, who are beter skiiers, arialists or modern freestyle skiiers, it seems like arialist do much more ddifficult tricks, i know that everyone here is going to say "arialists a loosers with no style" but how important is style when it comes to skiing? I think that difficulty of tricks should come before style What do you think ns? And i apologize in advance for grammer and spelling errors, i did this on a touch screen
Jan 21 2012 6:39PM
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Njens.
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Dont think i spelled that right but back to the thread, i watched a video today where an arialist in the 80s did 4 flips and 4 "spins". So i was thinking, who are beter skiiers, arialists or modern freestyle skiiers, it seems like arialist do much more ddifficult tricks, i know that everyone here is going to say "arialists a loosers with no style" but how important is style when it comes to skiing? I think that difficulty of tricks should come before style What do you think ns? And i apologize in advance for grammer and spelling errors, i did this on a touch screen
Jan 21 2012 6:45PM
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GBS
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Nope, they aren't better at skiing. Aerial people can barely ski down the hill making turns.
I mean, they probably spend more time in the air spinning like a fucking balerina than they spend skiing on snow. They might do very difficult tricks, but with no style and never grabs.
They only do contests, and aerials can only do like a few different tricks because of the contest "rules".

For me skiing isn't about spinning and flipping the most, or being the best, skiing for me is being free and doing what you want with skis, having fun with your best friends and chilling, but still pushing yourself and progressing. Thats why it's called freesking.
Btw style is not only about looking good, it's a way of expressing yourself while skiing.

but you just dont get that with aerials. It's better than racing in my mind, but it's the same over and over again. Rules, andoldschool.

They might be better at spinning the most around in the air at a suuuperkicky jump, looking like idiots. I bet the best freeskiers could get pretty fucking good at aerials if they wanted to.

Freeskiers > Aerial people.
Jan 21 2012 6:51PM
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Crispy.
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You can't compare the two, they are very different.
Jan 21 2012 6:55PM
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ARMADAR7
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To me it just seems that it would be more dificult to do four flips that a double rodeo truck driver but i dont know much about arials and how it works so i cant say much on the topic
Jan 21 2012 7:00PM
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Stose
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the way i look at ariels is basically its olympic trampolining but on skis
Jan 21 2012 7:12PM
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aus10
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Almost all aerialists come from a gymnastics/trampoline background and can barely ski. Then again neither can a lot of park rats.
Jan 21 2012 7:30PM
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blah..
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my question was always, if you took an airialist and gave him twintips and saga outwear, and nobody knew about it, then he could crush the entire skiing world and rise to fame quicker then tammy wallnuts himself. So why don't olympic airialists do that?
Jan 21 2012 7:39PM
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TheBredward
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Arialists are gymnasts w/ skis on. I'd like to see them even try to make it down a slopestyle course, much less a steep mogul run. For the most part, they are NOT skiers
Jan 21 2012 7:47PM
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thebusiness19
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To Sorry. What if someone dressed in saga who was an aerialist
Look up Dylan Ferguson
Jan 21 2012 7:53PM
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Poikenz
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They probably don't like the cold or looking like a hoodrat.
Jan 21 2012 7:54PM
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wasatch_rat
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i think the two disciplines are pretty different but some people do kill it at both
Jan 21 2012 8:01PM
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Clark_Griswold
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This guy gets it.
Jan 21 2012 8:25PM
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Heart
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i lold. but you also have to look at the jumps they hit. aerialists hit essentially a spine. very steep take off and landing, making it much easier to set flips and get a lot of airtime. they also dont have as much horizontal speed, so less consequence if they dont land perfectly straight.

then look at park skiing. for large jumps, youre looking at horizontal speeds of up to 50mph. the jump takeoffs are mellower, so setting the rotation is more difficult, and if you catch an edge landing at 50mph, youre going to break ribs/collarbones/whatever.
Jan 21 2012 8:45PM
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panojibber
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Aerialists aren't skiers (with some exceptions).
China just throws washed up gymnasts on a pair of skis, sends them down a water ramp, then all they need to do is get on snow and point it directly at the jump and somehow stop after landing. How many aerialists bust a carve to dump speed on the way into their jump? None. You'd be surprised at how many aerialists can't actually ski; they are often just gymnasts, but god damn do I respect them.
Jan 21 2012 8:51PM
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james6345789
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Why the fuck would he put that aerial shit in his KOS entry?
Jan 21 2012 9:57PM
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Crispy.
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How is throwing say a double rodeo any different from them throwing a triple twisty thing? I don't see how either takes more skill than the other. Sure aerial jumps are very steep making it easier to throw flips but essentially aren't they the same thing? I'm not disagreeing with you I just don't see the difference.
Jan 21 2012 9:59PM
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panojibber
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Skiing happens on snow, not in the air.
Its not about a double rodeo being skiing... Because its not really, its just a trick. Skiing constitutes navigating your way down a mountain, not straight lining into a jump and hucking a quadruple backflip. I'm sure aerialists could learn rodeos if someone taught them, but it still wouldn't make them skiers, unless you could put them at the top of whistler and they could ski down. Flipping skill =/= skiing skill. And its not about one taking more skill than the other, its the fact that aerialists aren't skiing when they compete.
Jan 21 2012 10:33PM
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Bill.Nye
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Pretty important.
Jan 22 2012 2:58AM
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Jahrassicpark
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I fucking love that Dylan Furgeson edit, I think it's real sick
Jan 22 2012 3:05AM
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sweatshirt
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Dylan Ferguson is Aerials
Jan 22 2012 3:05AM
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.Ian.
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Sigged!
You could definitely see Dylan Fergusons aerial style in that edit too. It looked cool, but funny at the same time.

I also think it's funny that the aerial "skiers" can't really actually ski well. I never really knew that.
Then I thought about ski jumping, and are they usually decent skiers off the ice jump track? I have a friend who ski jumps but is also a tele skier and is awesome at any type of skiing. He's even won a bunch of Nordic combined races too. Just wondered if a lot of those guys are good skiers, or if they are also the same type of thing as aerialists and they are just trained in that discipline?
Jan 22 2012 3:17AM
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Static
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yea standing on skis and leaning side to side is way more difficult than twisting quads you guys are probably better than olympic aerialists in every single aspect of life. Can't grab? probably can't even read.
Jan 22 2012 3:32AM
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.Ian.
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I would like to see an aerialist hit a big mountain or backcountry line though. I mean I'm sure a lot of them are good skiers but I mean, I would like to see one of China's "gymnasts thrown on skis" (as someone described earlier) hit a backcountry or big mountain run and see how they do.
Jan 22 2012 3:37AM
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Dr-Strangelove
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I'd love to see a video of you going down steep moguls
Jan 22 2012 9:03AM
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ARMADAR7
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Skiiers or not arialists have some seriouse cahonEs to do what they do
Jan 22 2012 9:57AM
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stickerz
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I'm pretty disappointed that he didn't afterbang his arial run. His reaction was no bueno.
Jan 22 2012 10:38AM
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scientist
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once you take one arm out of the equation with a grab you lose so much manueverability. I do think though that future big air jumps will be more aerialist inspired with less gap and steeper takeoff/landings.
Jan 22 2012 2:35PM
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