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riddsicle
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Greetings NS. I'm just arriving home after a run in with our old friend the police.

I got pulled over for apparently rolling through a stop sign (bullshit) and ended up getting my car searched, resulting in the discovery of my bowl and a fresh quarter ounce i purchased just earlier.

I'm just interested to see if anybody has been in any similar situations so i can get an idea of what to expect.  I live in Pennsylvania by the way and I'm going to the station to get fingerprinted tomorrow at 3.
Jan 5 2012 11:40PM
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john.stossel
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todays cops are a new breed of poor losers who hate the rich so they go around busting private schhool parties etc.... the bronx police in the 50s were closer to soldiers than to todays dooshbag cops
Jan 6 2012 7:34AM
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C-Burg
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Stop with the hate on cops, he is just doing his job. I know a lot of police officers and have been on many ride alongs with them. You got pulled over for rolling through that stop sign because he knew that you had just purchased weed, These cops know where it is coming from and know what to look for when. I have been in a cop car and we saw a drug deal go down, followed the person for a little bit, they forgot a turn signal, and we pulled them over. He isnt pulling you over because he wants to fuck your life over he pulled you over because he knew you had weed. The argument about whether or not weed should be legal is irrelevant because right now it is illegal and it is the officers job to enforce the law. I know officers that are for legalizing it, but they still enforce the law because it is their job.
Jan 6 2012 8:24AM
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stoned_sorcerer
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So you buy weed and send it home in a taxi or smth.? You know, just in case you roll a stop sign and get searched...
Jan 6 2012 10:57AM
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Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
this.
all you have to say is no and then anything he finds in your car is inadmissable and can't be used to charge you
Jan 6 2012 11:02AM
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Eleidecker
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Jan 6 2012 11:58AM
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.Jacob
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finally, the second page is (mostly) full of sensible people.
Jan 6 2012 12:01PM
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The_Future
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First of all, vibes to friends and families of those involved, but I do have a problem with what you're trying to say about marijuana. I could write for days about why weed should be legalized for medical uses, but I'm not going to here. All I want to say is if the dude was growing for strictly medical purposes then the Ogden police department was wasting a bunch of time and money that could have been spent preventing real crimes and maybe this wouldn't have happened. I think the real problem with the shooting is that someone who was known to be mentally unstable was able to acquire a gun... not that the mentally unstable person was trying to medicate themselves with a plant.

...Glad to be in California

Jan 6 2012 12:04PM
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SterlingArcher
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dont hire a lawyer....  become a lawyer

Jan 6 2012 12:14PM
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.AR6rider.
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Thread title: Fuck Cops


...but no, you didn't want to bash the cops at all. Man up and accept the fact that you fucked up. Lesson learned. Next time you won't smoke before you drive and leave your weed in the car.
Jan 6 2012 12:15PM
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Wolffy
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I bet everyone here watched one flexyourrights video and now thinks they are an expert on the fourth amendment and when a cop can and cant search your car. Don't listen to these people they are mostly giving you false information.

We would have to have more information about the pullover to determine if the search was warranted or not. If there is reasonable suspicion, the cop has the right to ask you to step out of the car and Terry frisk you, which I assume he did. If you leave your door open that is consenting to a search of your car and will hold up in court. Smell is not nearly enough for probable cause, though cops will try to tell you this to intimidate you and trick you into letting them search your car. Never give into their false threats of bringing drug dogs down because they are mostly reserved for bomb threats, school searches, and finding a criminals who have fled crime scenes. Just keep your composure, be respectful to the officer, and do not consent to searches and everything will be usually be fine.
Jan 6 2012 12:18PM
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jblaski
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I also believe that police won't waste the resources on some guy with 3 plants in his house. I have zero doubt that Ogden PD/Drug Task Force had more than reasonable suspicion that something more than misdemeanor drug activities were going on. This whole situation is very infant, and I'm sure that much more info will come out.

...and I still say you should have just stopped in Utah :D
Jan 6 2012 12:25PM
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hot.pocket
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Hi everyone, my name is OP and I'd like to apply for the job of NS fucktard. My qualifications are not giving the full story the first time around, making a thread entitled "Fuck Cops." then proceed to explain I don't want to hate on cops, and whining and bitching for being caught doing something illegal by someone who was doing his job.
Jan 6 2012 12:43PM
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Mike-O
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...wait a minute there! You... you're not the OP, are you?


Are you a cop?
Jan 6 2012 12:49PM
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Lord.Quasimoto
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its been said a million times before - if they smell weed you're fucked. there's no saying no to a cop who smells weed.
Jan 6 2012 1:22PM
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Lord.Quasimoto
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oh and yeah another thing important thats been said in this thread. if you know your car smells like weed you need to be very careful about obeying traffic laws. its so easy to take that extra 2 minutes to slow er down and not worry about getting fucked with criminal charges.
Jan 6 2012 1:25PM
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REDFRO420
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They aren't allowed to search your car man take it to court. Also learn your rights it will save your ass
Jan 6 2012 2:08PM
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riddsicle
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update-I just got back from the station where the same officer fingerprinted me and questioned me a whole bunch about dealers in my area.  He kept telling me how if I can organize a bust for them i can get my charge cut down to disorderly conduct.  Before anyone calls me a rat I avoided giving out any names and just tried to play the oblivious innocent stoner card.

What I thought was weird though was that at the scene of the crime last night he let us drive home without issuing any sort of citation or anything, and even after going in today all he told me was what i might be charged with.

Is this normal? He told me he would call me in a couple of days with an update on my situation.

My apologies if I seem somewhat uneducated on the subject, this is the first time i've ever dealt with the law to this degree.
Jan 6 2012 8:34PM
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californiagrown
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theres a lotta 16 year old brats in here handing out golden nuggets of ignorance.

Jan 6 2012 10:00PM
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GayWolf420
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Snitches get stitches, son.
Jan 7 2012 1:31AM
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Peter.
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OMG I WAS JUST DRIVING LIKE 6000 MILES PER HOUR IN A 30 ZONE AND SOME DUMB PO PO PULLED ME OVER


FUCK DA POLIZ



(usual police thread on NS)
Jan 7 2012 1:36AM
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.AR6rider.
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You forgot the part where you were TOOTTAAALLLLY nice and respectful to the officer, but he was just a dick and wanted to screw you over.
Jan 7 2012 1:37AM
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MACAQUE
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HOLY SHIT YES THEY ARE. Your rights that protect you from search and seizure are subject to certain conditions. Ever heard of a field sobriety test? A cop honestly needs NO real reason to give one, yet if you are sober and refuse you lose your license for 1 year (in WA state, but I'm sure it's similar elsewhere). I field sobriety test is a SEARCH OF YOUR BODY. People have a "high expectation of privacy" for their bodies, meaning that the police need a VERY good reason to search your body. When you are behind the wheel, police have a very good reason for searching your body and car because you put other's lives in danger. It's called a balancing test. The safety of others on the road is viewed as more important than your right to privacy. THE SEARCH WILL ALMOST ALWAYS HOLD UP IN COURT. If a cop wants to search your car and you refuse, he will call a judge or bring in the dogs to get a warrant or probable cause. Moral of the story: DON"T CARRY ILLEGAL SHIT IN YOUR CAR UNLESS IT'S WELL HIDDEN AND IT WON'T BE FOUND IN A SEARCH. YOUR CAR IS VERY LIABLE TO BE SEARCHED WITHOUT WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A "GOOD REASON".
Jan 7 2012 2:17AM
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Algebra
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Cool. Ur a badass. Like this hasn't happened to everyone. Fucktard
Jan 7 2012 2:51AM
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Clark_Griswold
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i don't believe this has happened to everyone after reading the thread and all the idiotic comments about knowing your 4th amendment rights.
Jan 7 2012 3:33AM
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ski93
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seriously though...
>4 years on ns
>every cop thread sounds exactly the same to me
Jan 7 2012 4:19AM
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An10a_Eng
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they probably had reasonable suspicion. but yeah, fuck those cops for doing their jobs. you broke the law, quit bitching and deal with the consequences of your actions. time to grow up.
Jan 7 2012 7:48PM
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LivingColour
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umadbro?
Jan 7 2012 7:49PM
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PlaygroundRapist
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Jan 7 2012 7:52PM
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An10a_Eng
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not particularly, just had a good dinner and read a chapter in a good book. to be honest, im in a good mood.
Jan 7 2012 7:53PM
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Lord.Quasimoto
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sounds like the cop is trying to play the good cop game in order to get some names out of you
Jan 9 2012 1:31PM
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northeast
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the thread is titled "fuck cops."
Jan 9 2012 1:49PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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yeah, andas soon as you say no to the search they'll call it suspicion. i say it all the time, if a cop wants to search your car, he's going to do it one way or the other.


Jan 9 2012 1:57PM
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GayWolf420
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ITT: Op makes cop bashing thread. Gets his ass e-served. Ragequits.
Jan 9 2012 2:06PM
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Huck_Norris
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Lol, no.  Then they just wait for the dogs to get there and you're fucked anyways. 

What you SHOULD say is "Sir, if you have the right to search then you may search, but if you must ask permission to do so then I must deny you that permission as my ancestors have fought too hard to earn that right for me to give it up so easily, and I sincerely hope you do not think I'm being disrespectful in doing so, sir."

I've been pulled over WHILE SMOKING A JOINT and used that line after being asked several questions and answering everything politely, honestly and concisely beginning and ending with a "sir"...  Was given a downgraded speeding  ticket and sent on my way with a smile, a wave and a "have a nice day" from the guy.  It's all in how you present yourself as well as how you react.  One iota of attitude or sketchiness and you're fucked.  Simple as that.  Get with the program or get fucked.  Your choice, just don't blame someone else for being too good at their job.   

Jan 9 2012 2:18PM
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.AR6rider.
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Hahahahaha maybe if you want to make yourself seem like a pompous ass. Nobody speaks like that. The cop would probably just laugh in your face. It's one thing to be polite, it's another to say something as ridiculous as that while being pulled over.
Jan 9 2012 2:22PM
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.SillyGoose
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Jan 9 2012 2:27PM
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Broseph_Stalin
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true that..

if they smell like a shit ton of weed in the car you are pretty much fucked, even if they are a good cop, no matter how much you think it should be legal it still just is illegal so dont be a dumbass
Jan 9 2012 2:34PM
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leonus
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Guys I killed someone and I stashed the body in my car. I rolled a stop sign and they found it! Fucking cops! Always power hungry and shit.
Jan 9 2012 2:36PM
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Broseph_Stalin
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and by "good cop" i mean good by NSG kids standards like chill and whatever and stuff
Jan 9 2012 2:37PM
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Huck_Norris
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Is this your first attempt at reading?  Not only did this actually happen, I drove away with a reduced speeding fine and relit my joint about 2 minutes down the road for keeping a staright face during my cheesiness.  You're right though- I should have put that stupid fucking pig in his place like the thug I am, what a twat I am for working that angle and getting off damn near scott-free.  I'll have to remember your advice the next time I want to get fucked in my asshole with a baton by the romantic glow of the flashing lightbars, lose my weed and gain some criminal records for my street cred.

;) 

Jan 9 2012 2:44PM
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ButteredToast.
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I once heard from a defense lawyer that the smartest thing to do is tell them that they are allowed to do whatever they legally have the right to do
Jan 9 2012 2:45PM
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Huck_Norris
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Yes, exactly.  Act like you have nothing to hide and have respect for the job they're trying to do but you're not a pushover either and know your rights. 

It's the best thing you can do for yourself outside of not breaking the law to begin with, but what's the fun in that? 

Jan 9 2012 2:51PM
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sherwood4099
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They are the authority you square...
Jan 9 2012 2:52PM
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sherwood4099
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You should be pissed with yourself not the cops for doing their job. Jesus only children blame others when they get caught red handed and knew the risks. Not to mention the cop obviously did not use the stop sign as probable cause. Theres more to this story then your telling. I bet you had no idea how to handle it and gave consent
Jan 9 2012 2:55PM
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.AR6rider.
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...and you were criticizing MY reading skills?
Jan 9 2012 3:04PM
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sherwood4099
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Hahah grow up. In for the court thread "I took an online fellow stoners advice and my defense your honor is you arnt allowed to search my car man it's my rights!". You forfeited those rights when you allowed the man consent to search. Which most NSers are bullied into giving eventually. It takes real fortitude to hold out on a search and stay strong to your rights most people pussy out. Those who don't. Dont make threads like this...
Jan 9 2012 3:10PM
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theabortionator
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learn your rights.


Never let a cop in your car. not consenting to a search is your right, and cannot be used as grounds for a warrant. Dont act sketchy, be polite, be on your fucking toes. Cops play mind games, you have to be good.


If the cop decided you rolled through the stop sign youre pretty much getting that ticket. Make a better effort to stop when cops are around. Even then you can get fucked but you really cant get around that.

Should have never let them in your car. Theres like a millions videos on that sort of thing, flex your rights and other groups. Check them out, read up on the laws, make a plan of how to talk to cops.


The sooner you learn that the better. T the same time dont be stupid. Being overly cautious seems useless to most kids but it will save your ass. All you need is that one time to go wrong and being cautious would have been so fucking worth it. Dont leave bowls in your car in the open, dont store shit in you glove box if you keep you registration in there(should be obvious but people do this all the time), get a case for you pipe and hide it so its not visible as a pipe even if it ends up in the open, dont clambake your car all the time(open them windows) If youre driving with shit have your story straight so you dont sound like a sketchy dumbass when you get pulled over.



I try to stress this to the youth of ns but it never gets through. I can post some more info/ links to sites and video after i take a nap.



Just be careful. Recklessness is looked at as cool. Its stupid, be careful out there. When you avoid trouble even once you'll be glad you took a few extra steps to be smart.

This thread comes up to often, learn up peoples. stay safe, stay classy
Jan 9 2012 3:18PM
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GORILLA.
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some cops are chill as fuck though. i got caught drifing around a big parking lot at night in the snow.

got caught with no insurance (on me), wasn't my car, plates were covered with snow, and reckless driving. total was about $800 and 6 dimarit points (would have lost my lisence for 5 years)

but since im only 16 and "seem like a nice kid" the popo let me ride off with nothing! but he did call my mom and she though it was funny.

im just lucky they didnt catch us with my 15 year old friend driving while i was getting pulled behind on my skis.
Jan 9 2012 3:45PM
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Huck_Norris
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*sigh*  yes. 

You said he would probably laugh in my face. 

He did not.     

Am I to assume Hooked oh Phonics didn't do shit for you or just that you feel like being a dick today? 

Jan 9 2012 3:54PM
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