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Which is better: Pretzel or Blindside 270 out?

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Tspoon
Posts: 38 - Karma: 47
So I was wondering, if I was in a competition and I wanted to do a 270 out? Or a 450? Which one would be considered the "better trick"? Pretzel or Blindside? Or are they just as good as eachother?
Jan 3 2012 10:45PM
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DayMan
Posts: 4702 - Karma: 8,727
When you say pretzel do you mean frontside? And I would go for blind. imo it looks cooler
Jan 3 2012 10:47PM
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GavinW
Posts: 574 - Karma: 89
for me frontside is easier an blindside looks cooler
Jan 3 2012 10:51PM
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Tspoon
Posts: 38 - Karma: 47
Yes I do mean frontside. And okay thanks!
Jan 3 2012 10:51PM
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coldcuts69
Posts: 3718 - Karma: 1,890
blindside for sure
Jan 3 2012 10:56PM
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Heart
Posts: 6156 - Karma: 3,462
I learned blind 270s out before front 2's,because for some reason they gave me a lot of trouble, but blind spins are definitely harder
Jan 3 2012 11:00PM
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james6345789
Posts: 4763 - Karma: 465
blind looks cooler, i think it's scarier
Jan 3 2012 11:00PM
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mscinto
Posts: 603 - Karma: 68
just go with what is more comfortable, blind are harder, scarier and cooler, front is easier, but not as cool
Jan 3 2012 11:13PM
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nine50seven
Posts: 576 - Karma: 686
stupid question ik but wat is the difference between fs and bs?
Jan 3 2012 11:21PM
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Tspoon
Posts: 38 - Karma: 47
Lets say you go onto a box or rail like you normally would, frontside would be spining the opposite way as you got on (against your momentum) and backside (blindside) would be going with your momentum. That's where the term "blindside" comes from, cause you are basically blind for the majority or your spin.
Jan 3 2012 11:26PM
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TPalms
Posts: 859 - Karma: 252
Solid answer, that's exactly what I was about to say. +k
Jan 4 2012 1:35AM
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613.
Posts: 827 - Karma: 164
Blindsides are cooler, as pretzels 2s out require next to no effort to execute.
Jan 4 2012 1:40AM
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Brock.
Posts: 5698 - Karma: 1,327
try front 2s without scissoring your skis. Its better than both if you can do it properly.
Jan 4 2012 1:45AM
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bustinthejus
Posts: 2419 - Karma: 74
Can someone explain to me why everyone thinks BS 270s are harder? I learned BS first and still can't FS...
Jan 4 2012 1:54AM
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POWDER.RANGER
Posts: 1698 - Karma: -24
blind looks cooler, is usually harder and easier to steeze out and afterbang
Jan 4 2012 2:01AM
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icon1234
Posts: 3081 - Karma: 1,475
Horrible advice... Front 2's are a great learning trick because it teaches you how to use edge pressure so you can learn other tricks like k-fed. Why you suggest to not scissor is beyond me, as it completely avoids that.
Jan 4 2012 2:02AM
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ShakeWeight
Posts: 98 - Karma: 20
I think swaping is tougher then blind.
Jan 4 2012 2:20AM
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punk.kid
Posts: 78 - Karma: 10
going right foot forward spinning left and coming out straight is considered the harder way im pretty sure
Jan 4 2012 2:36AM
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unchyll
Posts: 4554 - Karma: 96
Unfortunately, ski contests are judged usually on the amount of ridiculous spins or flips you can pull off of or onto rails/jumps. That being said, if you want to place just huck, style doesnt matter most of the time.
Jan 4 2012 2:37AM
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skifoo
Posts: 1396 - Karma: 45
i feel blind 270 as a speed trick a.k.a competive trick. fs 270 out is like urban rail and stuff. imo.
Jan 4 2012 5:46AM
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Stope.Neeze
Posts: 594 - Karma: 148
u can only go pretzel if there is a switchup before it
Jan 4 2012 7:31AM
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hodlekve
Posts: 543 - Karma: 1,262
word, or a 2 on
Jan 4 2012 7:59AM
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RawrRawrRob
Posts: 1841 - Karma: 685
I'd say blindside; because when most people pretzel, they have already span 90 before they even reach the end. When people blind 2 out, it's usually an actual 270 out, not 180.
Jan 4 2012 5:10PM
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MarkDrvper
Posts: 1559 - Karma: 6,113
Blind 270
Jan 4 2012 6:40PM
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Lemuel
Posts: 14477 - Karma: 10,515
Blind is scarier
Blind is easier

Neither are very difficult, but blind swaps / out on rails are definitely scarier but so much easier for me.
Jan 4 2012 6:46PM
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613.
Posts: 827 - Karma: 164
No one actually does a full 270 on backsides either... they just drag and 90, then pop and 180 out. same as pretzels Rawbert.. and get an icon...
Jan 4 2012 6:56PM
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Deluge
Posts: 4398 - Karma: 767
blindside for sure.
Jan 4 2012 7:05PM
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ski0
Posts: 2321 - Karma: 5,370
i think you mean frontside , not pretzel.


and blindside is harder for most people.
Jan 4 2012 7:17PM
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FerrisBueller
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lol fs is so much easier for me, just more comfortable id say, really they are the same for me though.
Jan 4 2012 7:19PM
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RawrRawrRob
Posts: 1841 - Karma: 685
I do very close to full 270's for blindside, almost every time if not.
Jan 4 2012 7:20PM
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613.
Posts: 827 - Karma: 164
Complete falsehood. More like 200 at most...
Jan 4 2012 7:24PM
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RawrRawrRob
Posts: 1841 - Karma: 685
You are gay /endthread
Jan 4 2012 7:27PM
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120494435941
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ive been working on 2s out, are they easier on boxes or rails cause im not perfect a rails yet so i feel like practicing on a box would be better but i cant scissor well on boxes.
Jan 4 2012 7:32PM
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.R-Lohin
Posts: 1686 - Karma: 117
You cant say blinds are easier and fronts ar harder that your own opinion. For me fronts are easier but I know a kid that finds blinds are easier. OP do what you feel most comfortable with
Jan 5 2012 2:28AM
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ILLinoisance
Posts: 3527 - Karma: 5,398
blind 2s are way harder and would score higher in my book. i've seen so many edits where someone does a front 2 out and i have to look at it a couple times to understand how it is a 270 out when they are only spinning 180 degrees off, if that....
Jan 5 2012 3:10AM
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Rockhound
Posts: 3432 - Karma: 851
Spinning out is eons easier on rails IMO
Jan 5 2012 3:22AM
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Kangbang
Posts: 14211 - Karma: 423
If done good, blind 2's look amazing!
Jan 5 2012 3:25AM
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RawrRawrRob
Posts: 1841 - Karma: 685
AGREED
Jan 5 2012 11:45AM
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Billek
Posts: 5665 - Karma: 98
I learned BS first, but hell, there's been times where I fuck up a trick and just pull a FS 270 out of my ass.  I never nearly accidentally do a BS 270 out... if that makes any sense.
Jan 5 2012 11:48AM
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xoxxooxo
Posts: 462 - Karma: 31
IMO blindside was is easier, cue the gasp, my momentum just carries me round and I get to land facing downhill versus switch
Jan 5 2012 11:54AM
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skithesprings
Posts: 9086 - Karma: 1,349
learn blind 4's

the easiest 4 to learn and they look so damn steezy.
Jan 5 2012 11:55AM
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.Max.
Posts: 2930 - Karma: 701








0:20 2 pretz 2

I did a full blind 270 out.

Boom roasted.
Jan 5 2012 12:06PM
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.Max.
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Welp I done goofed...

Jan 5 2012 12:07PM
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Brock.
Posts: 5698 - Karma: 1,327
because not scissoring looks better


Jan 5 2012 12:07PM
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mew3
Posts: 41 - Karma: 10
i'd go for the fs 270 or you could just do both since most competitions have more than 1 rail
Jan 5 2012 12:12PM
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bustinthejus
Posts: 2419 - Karma: 74
I like practicing/learning on boxes since I feel more comfortable on them and it's harder, so I know if I can do it on a box I can take it to a rail. If you have a well set-up, low flat-rail though that's probably the best thing to learn tricks on. It's way easier to scissor and spin out on a rail than a box.
Jan 5 2012 1:12PM
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Cult_Leader
Posts: 413 - Karma: 40
Blind side
Jan 5 2012 3:54PM
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manutdsaol
Posts: 906 - Karma: 56
def blindside 2's.
Jan 5 2012 5:12PM
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Heart
Posts: 6156 - Karma: 3,462
am i the only one who thought 270s out were harder to learn than 540's/720's? i had so much trouble for so long with spinning off rails
Jan 5 2012 9:55PM
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ILLinoisance
Posts: 3527 - Karma: 5,398
i learned 1080s before learning fs 2's out.
Jan 5 2012 9:59PM
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