I got the 2*4 pants and they are pretty good. They are really wide legged which is good. They also got a extra pad on the inside of the leg to stop your ski from cutting it up. The zippers and buttons on the side get annoying if you can find another oakley pant that doesn't have that shit on it, that would be even more dope than the 2*4. All oakley clothes are awesome, and I have skiied with the 2*4 pant in -40 and it kept me plenty warm, its to warm for any spring skiing almost. There really good.