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CalebT
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hey, i was checking out the boardsidedown ski wax deoderant stick. i was wondering how i put the wax on? +k
Dec 27 2011 6:54PM
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PON3
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grip it and rip it and rub that shit hard if its rub on. And use the cork on the other end to buff it in and then you are good to go for a day or two. :)
Dec 27 2011 6:56PM
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Parrish
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id take an iron to it

drip onto ski

smooth over ski

let dry

scrape

(optional)

use brush/other things to give direction to bases
Dec 27 2011 6:57PM
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Parrish
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this is hot waxing that is


fuck that rub on stuff
Dec 27 2011 6:57PM
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stickerman
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with boardsidedown wax, you can do both.
Dec 27 2011 7:33PM
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CalebT
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what do you mean by buffing it? like scrape it off? and doesnt that ruin thepoint of putting the wax on?
Dec 27 2011 11:00PM
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stickerman
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if you dont hot wax the ski, you have to buff the wax into your bases using a cork or any other desired buffer. if you do a hot wax, then you want to scrape. Wax itself is slow, and you want to get as much wax out of your bases when your done as possible.
Dec 27 2011 11:06PM
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CalebT
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so just try to get rid of it after i put it on pretty much??
Dec 28 2011 12:16AM
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CalebT
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so just try to get rid of it after i put it on pretty much??
Dec 28 2011 12:18AM
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I_Am_Mod
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wax doesn't help if it's on top of your skibase...
the purpose of waxing is to have wax penetrate and saturate the base material so it stays fresh...

in hotwaxing this is done by melting the wax into the pores, then letting it cool and scraping off the excess wax...

by rubbing wax this is done by buffing the wax into the material, then afterwards polishing the surface with a cloth or something ...
Dec 28 2011 9:30AM
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CalebT
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so rub it on really hard then use the scraper to get it off?
Dec 28 2011 9:48AM
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I_Am_Mod
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scraping is only effective for hard wax that's supposed to melt/iron in

rubbing wax is pretty much just rub on and wipe off (depending on the type and brand)

heres what your wax manufacturere advises :
The Deodorant Stick was made for those days where you forgot to wax your ski’s/snowboard. The Deodorant Stick you can pop off the cap, give your ski’s/snowboard a good hard rub down, wipe it off with the structuring pad and you’ll be good all day long.
Dec 28 2011 9:55AM
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onenerdykid
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Wax needs to get IN TO the base, not on top of it. This is why a rub on wax is usually a waste of time- it cannot penetrate the base the way iron in wax can. Now, using a cork will help. This creates surface friction which in turn creates heat which softens and opens up the base allowing some wax to be absorbed.

Rub on wax honestly might last 2 or 3 runs, whereas iron in wax can last a day or two. And if you keep hot waxing your skis, your base actually takes on the properties of the wax so you glide faster for longer periods of time.
Dec 28 2011 10:55AM
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.RYAN66
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if you arent going to hot wax then dont wax at all, it is really just a waste of time for rub on wax.


Dec 28 2011 10:58AM
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CalebT
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what's a cork?
Dec 28 2011 2:37PM
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onenerdykid
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It is literally a block of cork (apparently it comes on the end of the BSD wax too?) and after you rub the wax on base you take the cork and rub the wax into the base.
Dec 28 2011 2:42PM
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PON3
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I always hate using rub on wax it straight kills your arm after a while.

But using hot wax gives you time to think about life and I find it a very soothing method for relaxation and revealing stress :)
Dec 28 2011 3:00PM
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BoardSideDown
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Hey man so step by step process for doing rub ons.

1.scroll up the wax like you do for deodorant

2.rub base of skis firmly till you see a light film on the skis

3. use the structuring pad that is attached to the back of the stick to rub the wax into the pores

4. make sure when wiping it from tip to tail or with the grain of the ski.

This process can be any where from 1-2 minutes per ski, very quick and efficient to add a little extra boost to your day.


Secondly, we only recommend using rub ons for days you forget to hot wax your skis or when you find the wax starting to rub off, our rub ons if done correctly should last all day, one hot wax will last you multiple days and be faster like other have said because it gets into the pores of the skis which is truly necessary to last longer.

However the studies we have done, have found a huge improvement with our deodorant and find it really handy in those moments when you just drove an hour to the mountain and forgot to hot wax.

truly a fun saver to the day.

Feel free to message me with any questions,

David LaValley
David@BoardSideDown.com


Dec 28 2011 4:00PM
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EastCoast.
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This!
Dec 28 2011 6:07PM
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CalebT
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how do you do it? do i need special equipment?
Dec 28 2011 8:33PM
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EricaMN.
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this.

drip in Z shaped patterns before smoothing.

and IMO scraping is mandatory.

Dec 28 2011 8:35PM
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Parrish
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scraping was implied to be mandatory.

it was the part after which was optional..
Dec 28 2011 8:52PM
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BoardSideDown
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Blazee here is a list of things you need and the process on how to hot wax your skis.

Equipment:
-Ski wax Iron found at many ski shops, or a iron used to iron clothes (buy one at a second hand store and don't use the same one for clothes)
-Hot wax (any of our wax is considered hot wax)
-structuring pad/brush
-wax scraper (also on our page)
-old towel or rag

Hot waxing process:
1. get your old towel or rag damp and wipe down your skis, to remove dust/dirt
2. plug in your iron let it heat to optimal heat
3. begin to melt the wax onto the ski using the iron in a waving S pattern down the ski (iron is too hot if the wax is smoking)
4. slowly move the wax over the s pattern on the skis melting the wax and spreading it across your skis
(CAUTION: do not let iron sit in one spot for too long, it may harm your skis)
5. once the base is fully covered let sit for a minimum of 2 hours to make sure the wax is cool in the skis and has hardened in the pores.
6. grab a wax scraper and begin to scrape the wax off
7. use structuring pad to buff the base and polish making it perfectly smooth
8. your ready to ski

Now some people get confused when they are told to scrape the wax off, when scraping the wax off you want to scrape it until it looks like there is no wax on the skis. Why? Because you want the wax in the pores of the skis only not protruding out of the bases making more friction for snow to slow you down.

The whole point of wax is to make your skis smooth as possible as well as repel and channel the water and snow from the skis making you glide and slide down the mountain quicker.

Hope that helps in understanding the process


Dec 28 2011 9:06PM
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CalebT
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thanks so much!
Dec 28 2011 9:28PM
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CalebT
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and one last thing. how often should i hot wax my skis?
Dec 28 2011 9:42PM
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onenerdykid
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Well, you can never over do it. In fact, as often as you can will keep your bases running fast and more durable than a non-waxed base. If you wait until your base looks white, like dry skin, then you have gone too long and need to get a base grind to remove the dry, dead layer of base.

If you do it once a week, you will be well ahead of most anyone. Again, you can never wax too often.
Dec 28 2011 10:11PM
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BoardSideDown
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This^

on average for the BSD crew we wax about after 4 times of riding. If your able to wax often it is great to keep your equipment in good shape as well as keeping you sliding consistently year round.
Dec 28 2011 10:25PM
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Rossberger
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threads
Dec 28 2011 11:10PM
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CalebT
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thank you guys!
Dec 28 2011 11:19PM
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PON3
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Welcome :)!
Dec 29 2011 1:35AM
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CalebT
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i have some of that on the edges of my skis. is this really bad? what's a base grind?
Dec 31 2011 12:20PM
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PON3
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It takes off the very thin top layer of the base (P tex) and unveils the new fresh base. You need base grinds for a couple reasons.

1. Because your base is too dry and the ptex wont absorb the wax any more if its dried out.
2. because your edges have been grounded too much and they are lower than the base causing an uneven surface between the edge and the base, thus needing your base ground down.
3. probably other reasons too but im sure onenerdykid will help you out more :)!
Dec 31 2011 12:42PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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related:

is there a attachment for a power drill or angle grinder that's like a coarse brush? i'm getting tired of doing it by hand.
Dec 31 2011 12:46PM
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PON3
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I have seen some ski shops use one of those buffing pads for painting and it seems to work very well to push the wax in more and I would just use a brush by hand so you can get better control over it, unless your at a shop working with 20 skis a day.

But check a painting store, or home depot :)
Dec 31 2011 12:58PM
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stickerman
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yup! They are called a "roto brush"
Dec 31 2011 6:14PM
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