Armada JJ vs. K2 obsethed

JJ is your 5 dimension or whatever kind of want to do it all ski, its ok at everything and by ok i mean sub-par. I had the chance to ski the JJ and then the obsethed at vail a few weeks ago and the obsethed kicked its ass for the type of skiing i asked of it.

I prefer a traditional shaped ski over the 5 dim. ones because i ski big and fast and rail gs shaped turns and the obsethed did all of those for me where the JJ did not.

JJ performs best in powder (obviously) but sub-par at everything else. skiied the 185 and it felt like a 140 midget ski

obsethed performs best in powder (obviously) and does very well for a 117 underfoot ski on piste. skiied the 189 in the obsethed

If you're looking for a pow ski that shreds everywhere and you don't have any other skiis, or just a pair of park skiis, I would look into the Line Sir Francis Bacon or the Atomic Bent Chetler over the JJ or Seths.

get next years mr. pollards opus

seths or keepers

this kid knows whats up. JJs arent too hot anywhere, just perfectly mediocre. I'd avoid them and buy a real ski.

Anybody who says JJs are a good ski doesnt know how to ski

ARE YOU SAYING TANNER HALL DOESNT KNOW HOW TO SKI!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!11!!!!!!1!!

look into the benchtetler in 192, it is much better in powder then the JJ and it holds up well on the groomers

this is a laughably false statement. The JJ's rip. They're not great when you get into bumps or super hard death crust but they fucking rip everywhere else

hardly true at all. they rip at absolutely nothing, if you honestly think this ski rips your not doing it right

JJs rip.

I actually own both of these skis.

09 185 JJ and '10 179 Obsethed

Spent a shitload of days last season on the JJs, and plenty of time on them in NZ over the summer. 75ish days.

OP, the JJs are way more versitile. I would recommed them over the obsethed. I've had them in every condition from slick ice (not fun), to 2+ feet of pow. If you're "doing it right" you can ski these pretty much every day. I would not use these as a park ski, but hitting rails and jumps isnt a problem.

I only put 15 or so days on the obesthed this year. You really need some good snow for these to shine. At the same time a friend at my mountain rode his every day no matter what conditions and he loved them. For me though, not an every day ski.

Demo them, see for yourself

forgot, Tom...

189 Obsethed is a big ski.. 179 rides trees really well. 189 is going to charge.

idk dude ive been skiing my JJs all year and im fucking in love with them. but i am from the east coast and cant ski for shit haha. but id say your right on one part, but they are a very fucking good ski if your gona be all over the mountain, probably around a resort, skiing in all conditions. if you can get the JJ at proform or prodeal, its a pretty ideal ski for someone looking to shred hard.

i have also heard K2 got it right with the new obsethed. i haven't gotten a chance to ski them yet but they are one of the skis i really wana get on.

i know the seasons almost over but demoing each would be the best way to go. at many shops on the mountain you can trade in skis half way through the day.

JJs are the shit. Mine rip so hard, I don't get why people are bashing them, they're a great ski. I've done everything from big hucks on them, wide open bowls to tight trees, deep snow to six inches, light snow to heavy snow, crud to first tracks.

how many other skis have you ridden? many of the people saying the jj's are just mediocre at everything have ridden most of the skis on the market and they're 100% right. just because you CAN rip on them doesn't mean that there isn't a better ski out there, and in this case, the obsethed is a far more versatile ski. i swear it just encourages you to point it but still feels maneuverable in the trees.

I am in absolute love with my jj's, in fact i demoed both of these skis and took the jj's over the obseths. Dont get me wrong they are both very solid skis but the jj's atleast felt stiffer, lighter, and i really liked the 5 dim design.

what is your basis for this? not only have I skied them but I know multiple people who rip and absolutely love them. the fact that JP and julien ride them in ak probably says alot about the ski

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMkVCdW0NIA

Haa right.

Ha Even my other reps say they love the jj. I would hardly say that u can talk shit about a ski after demoing them. Find its sweet spot then come see me

Wow almost none of you can say jack about comparing these skis. I current own the JJ in a 185(2011), after currently selling my seths 179(2010). I loved both skis but k2 really messed up on the 2011 seths, the waist isnt the problem(105-117) its more the rocker(from all mountain-powder rocker). If you can find last years seth then you will love them, but they are not as good at charging as the JJ(even though seth skis them like nobody) because they are so soft. The new ones(2011) are much stiffer which doesnt help them with verstility. The jj is a better ski than the current 117 waist seth. The kung fujas is much better for all mountain.The current powder rocker is only good for powder and makes it tough in trees, bumps, and all mountain conditions. It really depends on how you ski though, because if your a really agressive skier than the JJ is going to be your dream ski. People who only demo JJ's for under 5 days will not like them as much as people who skied them 50+ days. The five dimension shape is unique to say the least and you need to ski them multiple days to "unlock" the full potential of the ski. I ski on JJs(5'10", 135lbs, and 18 years old), and so does my dad (5'9" 200lbs, and 55 years old). He has skied on volkl his whole life until he tried my jjs for a week becuase his mantra broke, volkl sent him new ones but he sold them and bought jjs. He loves railing turns on groomers, and is not the best all mountain skier. While I ski switch most of the time, am agressive, and spend most of my time in the air, also I spin a lot to in all mountain. The seths that I sold arent bad for spins but they are not as good as the JJ, the current ones are awful. Dont get me wrong you can get them around but not that easy, I can get my ARG's around a lot better. The JJs will make you a better and more confident all mountain skier, and the super low turn radius is absolute money for tight trees, shuting down speed, and makes switch on grooms or in pow much easier. The SFBs and Mr. Pollards Opus are not even close to these two skis. But the bentchetler is because they are made in the same factory as the JJ's becuase their is only one factory that produces elf shoe skis(not talking about knock offs like S7s). The bentchetler is considerably softer than the jj and I would recommend it over the seth(2011) but not over the jj for all mountain. The bentchetler is a good amount softer than the jj and it would be a good all mountain ski if you ski out west, and get powder often. What type of skier are you? and what kind of trails do you like? and what other skis have you liked?